Autopsy Roast & Toast - Round 2 v Collingwood & changes for GWS Rd 3

[BruceTempany14]

Shouldn't place Dimma and 'learnt' in the same sentence.
He hasn't learnt we are deficient in the ruck and hasn't learnt to shut down a Pies midfielder.

Whilst I am a Dimma defender I couldn’t agree more . I love nank but he gets slaughtered, and I mean slaughtered by opposition rucks week in week out . The only time he has ever come close to beating Grundy was when Grundy was injured/ ill last year the first time we played them . Sure he takes a mark or two around the ground but we rank about last for clearances because we ain’t getting first crack at it. And does he know what a tag/tagger is . Sidebottom Cripps Et al just run feee against us .

We need 2 Meter Peter.


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Oppo fans rubbing one out about jack and rance injured

Opposition fans are all rubbing one out now that we’re struggling. Goes to show how much it killed them inside us being successful.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Just feel we need abit of flair & dare off the backline(Not their fault last night).Get that and it'll hopefully kickstart our mids.

 

[mad_tiggy911]

Haven't seen us this depleted, disheartened and disorganised since the Wallet days.

 

[Tiges1229]

Opposition fans are all rubbing one out now that we’re struggling. Goes to show how much it killed them inside us being successful.

We are the most loathed club in the league and oppo flogs are purely jealous , even the umps hate us . Smasha is 100% right with his #.

 

[gavaniacono]

It's easy to monopolise possession when you hang back and kick it 3 or 4 times back and forth in the backline.
They did the same last year in r19 that time by hand not foot like last night.

Not sure what your point is. Mine is that when you control possession like the pies did, 2 things can happen, less chance of giving frees away, and you shut down richmond's win-back-the-ball strategy.

Thus pies trashed us.
Didn't need the umpires.

 

[mad_tiggy911]

Sky is falling imo.

 

[BruceTempany14]

Just feel we need abit of flair & dare off the backline(Not their fault last night).Get that and it'll hopefully kickstart our mids.

Houlis dash and Short pulling his finger out might help with that .


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[Bazzar]

We were ordinary againsed the blues last year an eventually hung on for a comfortable win, and were smashed by the Crows the following week. Rance is a massive loss and Jack will be back in a few weeks, so it's not all doom and gloom

 

[ForeverHardcore]

We were s@$t

Think realistically
These changes may happen

Ins Moore/Balta garthwaite Ross Baker
Outs Riewoldt grimes Weller Markov

Haven’t seen Prestia Rioli butler castagna astbury Lambert that bad ever.

Blokes in bold are meant to be a graders to most on here yet they were horrid.

Pies were all over us. Were the better side all night. Unfortunately they have a side of talent where as we are full of battlers. Once dusty is tagged it’s very evident our midfield is bang average.

I feel with this 22 Though

Short Garth broad
Vlastuin astbury b Ellis
Lambert Martin mcintosh
Rioli Moore/Balta Higgins
Butler lynch castagna
Nank cotch Prestia
Edwards graham Ross Baker

We can beat the Giants. Ross in as a big body ball hunter will help cotch out drastically! Martin will be tagged nearly every game from here. Baker brings More then Weller, George can play caddy’s role, Garth natural in to play on Cameron, Markov won’t play again. Would rather Moore then Balta as he plays the same way as jack.

Looking forward to the challenge moving forward. Will learn a lot about how good Hardwick is as a coach compared to other teams who have dealt with injuries and succeeded. (Hawthorn, West Coast and Collingwood) last year. Not all doom and gloom will finally get a chance to see a few more players. Been the same 25 players for 2 years. Plenty of opportunities

 

[mad_tiggy911]

Predicting we will lose the next 2-3. Media will be a all over it and will start camping outside Punt Rd like old times.

 

[mad_tiggy911]

Hope we go shit and FOF return so we can win the flag again next year.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Just got back from holidays. Missed the game last night, how much did we win by?

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

Butler really deserves a spell in the vfl...would be good to give either Bolton or Baker a go...but again Dimma won’t risk dropping an experienced small for a newbie ...not with so many expected changes

Whats the plan for Bolton. Do you bring him in and play him out of position or did you give him a chance in midfield where he has been playing his best footy in the two's.

Problem is as well we drop them and they dominate and Dimma puts them straight back in and drop blokes who don’t deserve it like balta

What did Balta do last week to hold his spot. He didn't touch the ball after quarter time and could only 50% of game time due to a lack of fitness. He is an exciting prospect but right now he isn't ready to big games.

 

[Rocco sifreddi]

So we let sam loyd walk out the door and replace him with
Someone who plays the same role but not even a
Quarter as good in weller ..good times.

 

[Muddiemoose]

Whats the plan for Bolton. Do you bring him in and play him out of position or did you give him a chance in midfield where he has been playing his best footy in the two's.



What did Balta do last week to hold his spot. He didn't touch the ball after quarter time and could only 50% of game time due to a lack of fitness. He is an exciting prospect but right now he isn't ready to big games.

Structurally we needed another big body down back and with Garth still building fitness he was a no brainer
Also would of saved us risking Reiwoldt in the ruck

 

[gavaniacono]

We were s@$t

Think realistically
These changes may happen

Ins Moore/Balta garthwaite Ross Baker
Outs Riewoldt grimes Weller Markov

Haven’t seen Prestia Rioli butler castagna astbury Lambert that bad ever.

Blokes in bold are meant to be a graders to most on here yet they were horrid.

Pies were all over us. Were the better side all night. Unfortunately they have a side of talent where as we are full of battlers. Once dusty is tagged it’s very evident our midfield is bang average.

I feel with this 22 Though

Short Garth broad
Vlastuin astbury b Ellis
Lambert Martin mcintosh
Rioli Moore/Balta Higgins
Butler lynch castagna
Nank cotch Prestia
Edwards graham Ross Baker

We can beat the Giants. Ross in as a big body ball hunter will help cotch out drastically! Martin will be tagged nearly every game from here. Baker brings More then Weller, George can play caddy’s role, Garth natural in to play on Cameron, Markov won’t play again. Would rather Moore then Balta as he plays the same way as jack.

Looking forward to the challenge moving forward. Will learn a lot about how good Hardwick is as a coach compared to other teams who have dealt with injuries and succeeded. (Hawthorn, West Coast and Collingwood) last year. Not all doom and gloom will finally get a chance to see a few more players. Been the same 25 players for 2 years. Plenty of opportunities

Very like.
Plenty of opps.

 

[Rubber Hips]

Problem is as well we drop them and they dominate and Dimma puts them straight back in and drop blokes who don’t deserve it like balta

We are running out of tall options down back....

Rance injured...grimes suspended...Garth injured....Markov more than ordinary...


Balta was good in JLT...but only played 1/2 game v blues..and was dropped

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

Structurally we needed another big body down back and with Garth still building fitness he was a no brainer
Also would of saved us risking Reiwoldt in the ruck

Problem is there wasn't a match up for Balta down back. Mihocek would be the match up in terms of height but he would of run Balta off his feet.

 

[partycorolla]

Thought we'd lose after selection (possibly before) and was right. Didn't think we'd lose by playing that sort of football though. We effectively conceded the Pies possession once we turned it over until they got within about 80 metres of goal and tried getting it off them from there. No forward half pressure at all which is unlike Richmond. Having said that, we were diabolical in round 2 last year and that turned out ok. Time to see what else we have.

Big week on the track I suspect.

Changes:
Out: JR (stupid footy gods), Grimes (stupid Elliot - deserved an elbow), Markov (had a chance and blew it), Vlas (has injured a tendon in his thumb - could possibly play but will need a jab), Weller (can't have he and Butler and Castagna all play and he has the least credits in the bank).

In: Balta (play back half and pinch hit ruck), Garthwaite (need the extra defender), Callum Moore (replace JR, will play higher up), Houli (if fit) and Jack Ross (need someone to have a crack in the middle - bring some enthusiasm).

I predict we'll drop the GWS game and the PA game which makes the Sydney game massive. Big chance to drop that one as well and head into the ANZAC game 1-4. Season over stuff. Hopefully we'll turn it around but if we keep conceding contested and uncontested possessions like last night, we'll get beaten by most. Surely can't play that poorly again with our work without the ball.

 

[ForeverHardcore]

Very like.
Plenty of opps.

Blokes like Garth and Moore who have been starved of games should be hungry to come in and impact. Which is why I think we won’t be that bad. Ross will be great. Brings a bit of excitement with a debutant

 

[Rubber Hips]

Whats the plan for Bolton. Do you bring him in and play him out of position or did you give him a chance in midfield where he has been playing his best footy in the two's.



What did Balta do last week to hold his spot. He didn't touch the ball after quarter time and could only 50% of game time due to a lack of fitness. He is an exciting prospect but right now he isn't ready to big games.

As you say Bolts playing good mid footy but Wondering about his tank ...so I’d give him a go as a foRWARD with stints in the mid
Higgo should spend more time on the ball

Balta good JLT...only half a game v bloooze is a bit tough on the kid


We have a need for tall mobile defenders...he fits the bill...

 

[RFCGloryJC]

I am still on holiday.
Lynden Dunn is a poor bugger.
Did another ACL on the weekend.
Has the record for most games without a finals appearance, 196.

 

[Bazzar]

I always look at the possitives in life rather than negatives, and not having Jack for 4 weeks means Lynch will now be numero uno in stead of trying to find his way along side Jack.
As a key forward in a new side it will It will fast track his development, and also refocus the players on getting the pill into his big mitts.
And when Jack does come back he won't feel the need to get straight back into the forward line as the number one player and do it all.

On a side note, not sure if it's been mentioned, but this is the first time since r9 2009 we will field a side without either Jack or Rance

 

[Truetiger]

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