Religion Folau

[Craven Morehead]

Pffft. It's literally ingrained into their DNA to get this deliberately wrong. "Yeah the total costs will be roughly x my dear client, depending on a few variable possibilities of course".
24 months later
"Geezuz the bill is more than 3 times the original estimate!".
"Well as you know we had to do this , and then we did that and then the opposite party did this, so we had to do that, and remember you indicated to us your intentions were so aligned all the way, after we informed you of all possibilities"hehehe.
If the case were to drag on for a long period and include multiple appeals at varying court levels it will absolutely be more than a couple hundred grand as suggested here. He is being disingenuous and considering the supposed mental capabilities of most legal eagles, most likely deliberately so.
Check some costs of previous big cases with multiple appeals to multiple court levels. If that happens it will most certainly be many millions, including possibly some of the legal fees of the opposite party. James Hird alone cost almost 1 million and that only went to the full Federal.
Of course if RA come to their senses and Folou can be talked into taking the money early with something appropriate agreed to regarding statements it could be the couple hundred grand he mentions. He's just not being entirely honest in his estimation and I'd suggest that is by design.
******* lawyers

Reading must be an issue for you in this blind rage you are suffering.
He has, quite literally, costed it up to a High Court challenge.
And he's hardly some pissant litigator looking for his next ambulance to chase ffs.

 

[AM]

Probably why Folau has jacked his fundraising target through the roof.

Got to make sure whatever happens he still leaves himself enough to walk away with a few extra million in his pocket.

It will be interesting seeing what he does with the residual ill gotten gains. Also, what the potential investigations into the ACL discover.

 

[Goosecat]

Reading must be an issue for you in this blind rage you are suffering.
He has, quite literally, costed it up to a High Court challenge.
And he's hardly some pissant litigator looking for his next ambulance to chase ffs.

No reading is not an issue for me. Perhaps comprehension and true understanding is for you. His costing is a deliberate undersell, as I said go do some research yourself, you can use Hird as a guide if you'd like to keep it simple for yourself.
Just because a lawyer in the paid service of a particular organisation, quite probably with his firm on a retainer to certain groups/individuals states an opinion does not mean it is inclusive of all fact or without agenda!

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

No reading is not an issue for me. Perhaps comprehension and true understanding is for you. His costing is a deliberate undersell, as I said go do some research yourself, you can use Hird as a guide if you'd like to keep it simple for yourself.
Just because a lawyer in the paid service of a particular organisation, quite probably with his firm on a retainer to certain groups/individuals states an opinion does not mean it is inclusive of all fact or without agenda!

Yes, it's definitely a conspiracy to lie about the court costs to embarrass Folau further.

 

[Echoes]

Yes, it's definitely a conspiracy to lie about the court costs to embarrass Folau further.

Imagine if this all culminates in some sort of Benny Hinn style embezzlement scandal where Folau is caught siphoning cash into some private slush fund, using donations inappropriately....I’m sure his faithful ‘freedom of speech’ flock would refuse to believe it though

 

[Craven Morehead]

No reading is not an issue for me. Perhaps comprehension and true understanding is for you. His costing is a deliberate undersell, as I said go do some research yourself, you can use Hird as a guide if you'd like to keep it simple for yourself.
Just because a lawyer in the paid service of a particular organisation, quite probably with his firm on a retainer to certain groups/individuals states an opinion does not mean it is inclusive of all fact or without agenda!

The Principal Lawyer for one of, if not THE, biggest litigation law firms in the country goes on the public record with an approximation of costs in the largest profile case currently in the public sphere and you accuse him of lying and being in some sort of conspiracy?
You can stop making a dick of yourself any time you like. Mr. Knowitall..

 

[DaRick]

It certainly puts into perspective our legal system.

Evan Whitton's writings RE the profiteering that goes on in common law legal systems are very interesting.

 

[Echoes]

Somewhat reassuring survey results

Australia’s real verdict on Folau

Israel Folau’s legal fight to save his rugby career has divided Australia — and a news.com.au poll on the key questions at the heart of the debate shows just how stark that divide is.

www.news.com.au

 

[Sainteric]

Yes, it's definitely a conspiracy to lie about the court costs to embarrass Folau further.

Bornstein was correct in that this will probably settle, but is projections were only for federal court costs for Izzys side only.

There was talk of supreme Court action on both sides, even taking Alan Joyce for contract interference, also potential awarded costs

 

[Monkey King]

Well at least until I could think logically, critically, view the evidence or lack of and come to my own conclusions. Luckily I now live in a time and place where I am free to think for myself and when science has answers for previously mystical events that left gaps for gods to fit into.

I think people overrate how much agency they have in their own thinking. 100 years from now, what’s seen as progressive today, may well be looked back on as archaic and ignorant. There is no moral high ground here. It’s an illusion. A shifting context would soon find you as deserving of scorn as those you feel entitled to deliver it upon.

Science only has a place in the “progressive” world when it matches the ideology. A book like The Bell Curve spins heads and draws many to object, on non-scientific grounds, simply because it doesn’t match the belief system.

I’d say both sides of this coin are as screwy as one another.

 

[Jello_B]

Somewhat reassuring survey results

Australia’s real verdict on Folau

Israel Folau’s legal fight to save his rugby career has divided Australia — and a news.com.au poll on the key questions at the heart of the debate shows just how stark that divide is.

www.news.com.au

Haha 21% reckon they should go after his wife.

 

[Opine]

The book should be the target.

Change the word "target" to "object," of further discussion to dispel current conflict between scripture and SSM, and I'd agree with you. No one is going to get far by targeting anything per se.

 

[M Malice]

I think people overrate how much agency they have in their own thinking. 100 years from now, what’s seen as progressive today, may well be looked back on as archaic and ignorant. There is no moral high ground here. It’s an illusion. A shifting context would soon find you as deserving of scorn as those you feel entitled to deliver it upon.

Science only has a place in the “progressive” world when it matches the ideology. A book like The Bell Curve spins heads and draws many to object, on non-scientific grounds, simply because it doesn’t match the belief system.

I’d say both sides of this coin are as screwy as one another.

I agree with the bolded, we will probably be looked back on as Neanderthal like in the distant future, we can only make the best of our circumstance and work with what we have though at this point in time. I try to come from an empathetic base, I do fall off that base on occasion particularly when it comes to religion.

 

[MrKK]

Somewhat reassuring survey results

Australia’s real verdict on Folau

Israel Folau’s legal fight to save his rugby career has divided Australia — and a news.com.au poll on the key questions at the heart of the debate shows just how stark that divide is.

www.news.com.au

Which bit is reassuring? The 53% that think GFM were right to take down his page? 21% who think his wife should be sanctioned for supporting her husband in an employment dispute?

It's the attempted unpersoning of Folau and now his family that's the most chilling part of this for me. Who's to say who will be the heretics that the mob will come after in the future. And I say that as someone who voted that he deserved to be sacked.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

We’ve got camps with kids locked up, government raiding media, actual nazis in the senate, and its 2 private companies choosing not to platform a bigot that elicits anti fascist pearl clutching?

 

[Snake_Baker]

There's something NQR about folks who trivialise christianity on the one hand, and then work themselves in to a frenzy over one particular tenet of its doctrine.

You are totally ignorant of your Pavlovian conditioning.

 

[M Malice]

There's something NQR about folks who trivialise christianity on the one hand, and then work themselves in to a frenzy over one particular tenet of its doctrine.

You are totally ignorant of your Pavlovian conditioning.

No frenzy from me Snake, I'm coming from a calm logical evidence based standpoint re my disdain for organized religion.

 

[Sainteric]

Haha 21% reckon they should go after his wife.

Vindictive mob rule, the left is making great efforts to get Morrison religious freedom bill through parliament.

 

[Sainteric]

No frenzy from me Snake, I'm coming from a calm logical evidence based standpoint re my disdain for organized religion.

Personally I am sure but the mob seems to over reaching here.

 

[Tiger08]

Apparently some crowd called Bastion Collective are advising RA on this. Its staffed with ex-AFL types which is probably why this turned into such a debacle.

 

[Gough]

For a long time the bible was used as justification for condemnation for people with Folau's skin tone, I doubt that he'd consider that reasonable anymore, maybe he's also wrong about us ****s.

 

[Snake_Baker]

No frenzy from me Snake, I'm coming from a calm logical evidence based standpoint re my disdain for organized religion.

I understand that. I am referring to the irrational, politically selective elements. They appear to be completely unaware of their conditioning.

Drunks go to hell



Homosexuals go to hell




It's conditioned fashionable selection. It's literally virtue signalling.

 

[raskolnikov]

For a long time the bible was used as justification for condemnation for people with Folau's skin tone, I doubt that he'd consider that reasonable anymore, maybe he's also wrong about us ****s.

The Bible is also clear that women shouldn't speak in church or have authority over men. They should also wear head coverings in church as a sign of submission to men.

 

[Snake_Baker]

The Bible is also clear that women shouldn't speak in church or have authority over men. They should also wear head coverings in church as a sign of submission to men.

It would be be ridiculous to take such nonsense seriously, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Gough]

The Bible is also clear that women shouldn't speak in church or have authority over men. They should also wear head coverings in church as a sign of submission to men.

It's gays. I don't know whether Jesus's dick once moved when he saw a man in a speedo but for some reason the church is super untight about us.