Bluemour Melting Pot XXI - Like seriously, the polar ice caps have got nothing on us

[thylacine60]

Looking forward to the



They know fu** all. A broken clock is right twice a day.

that's a couple up on you so far.........

 

[SammaGilberto]

gee it's a letdown isn't it?

SOS should've worn a tin foil hat to Marvel today, would've prevented the AFL stepping in on our deals.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Sorry HavUEvaSeenTheRain, I think you may be making that up....it was never stated anywhere he was up for grabs for anyone and we wouldn't commit.

Like any player who is searching for a new home, he was more than likely exploring his options, and ultimately chose St Kilda. That doesn't mean he was up for grabs for anyone.

As much as I also find it hard to understand, not every player wants to come to Carlton....

It was very widely reported so that’s all I can really go on. Agresta said we were interested and SOS said we had little interest. I remember them saying they met with him then didn’t contact him again for over two weeks. I could be wrong but I just don’t think we were that keen because of our other targets

 

[ParapMarkets]

Depending on what we can offer him for next year, if we have the room, 90/10 I reckon. (900k+) no way GC or Melb match that without an agreement to sign an extension

Only way would be if Martin cracks the shits with us and agrees to a deal with GC or Melb but I doubt it and reckon we will get him

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I can’t see there would be any way that GC would select him. Melbourne would be the worry.

 

[The Bighouse]

The AFL don't want restraint of trade murmurings to get going. This whole draft set up is a house of cards. That's why uncontracted players are not forced to stay and why other clubs let them slide to the club they originally nominated.

I'm 75/25 that Martin will get to us if he goes into the PSD.

Hell, Gold Coast may even delist him now that they made their silly point.

If GCFC have tabled a contract to Martin, which he refuses then it’ll be poor that they could then match our offer, which should be excessive.

Both Gold Coast & MFC should be hard pressed with their S/C.

 

[JPZ SKOLIEZ]

As much as Martin and Papley fell through. If he get Martin in PSD it would be great. I think DFA, ND and mature aged players may work wonders. Alternatively we never lost in decent players and with a fit Docherty, Cunners, Williamson and improvement in Fish, Setters, Kennedy, SPS, Deluca etc.. I would say we will still improve our ladder position? Do you not agree our current list can improve under a new Teague plan? We are not buried by any means.

 

[Blues Clues]

Harley Bennell in the rookie draft.

Let’s get Yarran too. Sure we can work out some sort of day release program.

 

[Funk]

from the teague train to the sos trainwreck, hard to believe we’ve stuffed this up so badly.


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Not sure how avoiding paying massive overs for 2 small forwards is a “train wreck” - but each to their own.

 

[Rustica]

What I can tell from SOS’ conference is he is pretty confident we will get Martin some way or another through the draft.. he has verbally told the club that he wants Carlton


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[gab213]

Looking forward to the



They know fu** all. A broken clock is right twice a day.

Did you just join up to come and have a melt down? You shouldn't have bothered we have enough people qualified to do the job who have been around for years.

 

[Heres Waite]

People asking where was our plan B, C etc - Martin in the PSD and pick 9 is pretty good plan B to me.

There’s a reason Butler went for only pick 58!! He is not that good.

 

[viking12]

Dodoro says that the offer was 9 and future 1st for Daniher

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I said Butler would’ve played 22 games this year and I think this because we played Gibbons, Lang, De Luca and even Kennedy in this role. Is Butler a better player than Gibbons, no, is he a better small forward, yes.

Butler kicked 30 goals and was a premiership player in 2017 and is behind Cartagena and Rioli in the pecking order. He’d walk into our 22 because we have nothad a genuine small forward in years.

I'd play Betts and Cuningham there. We have so many players to fit into the side, we aren't going to stack it with one position small forwards. Tigers supporters say that Butler is a one trick pony, even if it was a good trick 2 years ago.

 

[The Flying Doormat]

Genius?

It's no guarantee that Martin will be at Carlton.

We failed for the second consecutive year to land an A or B grade player.

We take pick 9 into a very average draft - the whole reason we put it on the table because it didn't satisfy a need.

This is another failed trade period plain and simple.

MM says hello.

 

[GapInIkonPark]

Dodoro said that Sydney only ever offered 9 and a future first; I believe it, given JD comes out of contract end of 2020.

Sydney says they were told that Picks 5 and 9 wouldn’t be enough. So that explains why Sydney did not ‘offer’ 5 and 9.

 

[thylacine60]

Not sure how avoiding paying massive overs for 2 small forwards is a “train wreck” - but each to their own.

train-wreck - where was this clown black friday 2002?

 

[bigdog43]

I'd play Betts and Cuningham there. We have so many players to fit into the side, we aren't going to stack it with one position small forwards. Tigers supporters say that Butler is a one trick pony, even if it was a good trick 2 years ago.

We can certainly play them both there even though I think Cuningham needs to be up across half forward. My concern is if Betts gets injured, I just feel like we’re going to end up playing players out of position again because we don’t have genuine small forwards. I’m happy to wait until after the draft to see what we do but I’m certainly a touch frustrated at the moment.

 

[ctwenty1]

we got voted wooden spooner of the trade period by michael barlow on GuesSEN......................

I vote Michael Barlow wooden spooner football trade commentary

 

[Bryce Bubbles]

Keen to hear from our ITK posters in the wash up as to WTF happened and why we didn't have a backup plan. Went from very definitive news close to the end to not being done at all.

Pretty disappointing night regardless of the macho actions and who's at fault.

Feel for Paps who now has to try and keep his relationship alive for another year was living in another state.

I reckon his team mates would understand that he wanted to go home and not hold it against him. If they do hold it against him then they are jerks...

 

[Funk]

With 3rd pick in the PSD, Martin will walk and put a huge price on his head agreed with us.

Demons with #2 will baulk as their salary cap is already pretty full.

And if Suns with #1 really hold him to ransom, and re-Draft him - imagine the message that sends to any young Sun recruit:

“COME TO US AND WE’ll LOCK YOU IN OUR SHITHOLE FOR LIFE!”

I’m gutted like most here about how today played out but we’ll get Martin for nothing and we’ll be laughing in a few weeks.

My only concern is if the AFL step in and give Martin a lucrative “ambassador” role to make him stay. Fair risk of that too the f***ers.

Yep.

AFL have f***ed us over royally.

I reckon someone slapped Gil to within an inch of his life as child - with a Carlton doll.

He has f**ked us over every chance he’s had.

The Coniglio screw over and now giving GCS so many picks they only want high R1 picks in any trade.

 

[Benaly28]

On a day of frustration what positives do we have right now?

Eddie is back.Membership will increase.
Docherty will be back.Side will be stronger.
We still have pick 9.

 

[Robbo's my hero]

Come back Daisy. All is forgiven.

 

[Bring on Vinnie]

Oh how I long for the good old days when we picked up Mott, Morrell and Martyn.

Or gave up pick 7 for Boekhurst and Whiley.


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[Blutopia]

My overall feeling is that this is all going to work out better than if we got our targets.

Although I think we will finish 6-8 next year we weren’t going to be a contender due to list profile.

We will get Martin PSD for nothing.

Agresta will get us a gun at pick 9, a diamond in rough at 43 and next year Papley will want to come home again. No doubt if Sydney are looking like being shit about it he can pull the mental health card like Steven may have done this year to get to cats.

End result we will get our targets plus a couple of developing young guns as well and be ready to contend for 10 years from 2021.

 

[BLUEALLTHRU]

8988 in the previous thread bitches...my avatar is safe!!