Does Murphy get to 300?

[Sharks On A Plane]

Marc Murphy is a CFC Champion, should be respected as such, free speech is great but some of the comments & vitriol that’s been leveled at him has been truly disgraceful.

Not even close to being a champion. Can’t wait until he’s gone, team will be a lot better without this walking (jogging?) personification of double standards.

 

[JustaBattler]

Murph would want to play on for as long as he is picked and the marketing department would have planned stuff around his 300th. In a half decent year there would be none of this angst around the whole issue.

The problem is that the team hasn't perfprmed in line with expectations it set out for itself and Murph's 300th is now contextualised in terms of being 'a' reason and 'an' example of what is wrong at Carlton.

Sad things happen when a Club promises a lot and delivers the opposite. So Murph's 300th will be about as meaningful as Ed's 200th - stattistics for those who like history.

 

[jj1978]

Teague says he wasn't right to be sub... yet Murphy does the right thing by all and sundry and plays. If he was a true champion, knowing the North game was a vital win he would of said, nope not right. I suspect our North showing had something to do with Murphy being allowed to play underdone and not worthy of best 23. Little things like that cause huge ripples in culture and care factor.

 

[bmaurizio]

Not even close to being a champion. Can’t wait until he’s gone, team will be a lot better without this walking (jogging?) personification of double standards.

One should focus on the great games & service to the CFC over many years , reflect a moment on Marc’s sacrifices & loyalty to his team and perhaps one’s vision will open just a little , to see Murphy’s contributions with an open and more gracious outlook.

 

[bmaurizio]

Teague says he wasn't right to be sub... yet Murphy does the right thing by all and sundry and plays. If he was a true champion, knowing the North game was a vital win he would of said, nope not right. I suspect our North showing had something to do with Murphy being allowed to play underdone and not worthy of best 23. Little things like that cause huge ripples in culture and care factor.

Many players performed dismally & insipidly las week, pointing out one individual is absurd.
Our team played like a bunch of headless chookes, everyone on the planet is aware of that. we have very serious issues to rectify, other than Marc Murphy playing or not in the twilight of a great AFL footfall career.

 

[Henderlenko]

I don't often post, but it seems people have short memories when it comes to Marc Murphy. I for one feel the club ought to do everything possible to get him there. Yes it's just a stat and just a number, but for former captain, multiple time B&F winner and all round Carlton man who gave us plenty of joy in bleak times, i'm more than comfortable with him getting 4-5 sub appearances if it gets him over the line.

Burgoyne got to 400 via the medi-sub and was celebrated all the same. Marc Murphy, despite having his performances fall away more dramatically than many of us would have hoped, was still a fantastic player for us and it will make a great way to say goodbye.

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

One should focus on the great games & service to the CFC over many years , reflect a moment on Marc’s sacrifices & loyalty to his team and perhaps one’s vision will open just a little , to see Murphy’s contributions with an open and more gracious outlook.

Perhaps you can reflect a moment on his selfishness, not only on the field in refusing to tackle, refusing to chase, constantly selling teammates into trouble (all of which have been going on for years), but in not doing the honourable thing and stepping aside for the benefit of the team. Would it not be a demonstration of "sacrifice and loyalty" to retire with one tiny modicum of grace and self-respect, despite being close to 300? To take ownership of the fact you don't deserve a spot in the side anymore, and a younger bloke does?

I will look back on "battler" Ed Curnow's career far more fondly than Murph's. Huge heart, the very definition of sacrifice and loyalty to his teammates.

 

[Original Moody Blue]

The angst should be directed at the club who are happy to compromise themselves to get Murph over the line. Selecting a player as the medical who you since stated was not able to play a full match, is just lunacy given we are under review and Teague's job was on the line.

It will be a hollow 300, instead of a rich and deserving 275 at the end of the day. That is a shame.

Well let's be a pack of c*nts and just strand the guy on 299..A great thank you for a one club player and Captain.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Well let's be a pack of campaigners and just strand the guy on 299..A great thank you for a one club player and Captain.

He's on 297

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

100 games = name on locker
200 games = life membership
300 games = personal milestone only

I see we left Carrazzo on 194, Hanna 190, Kreuzer 189, not to mention John James and Bruce Comben also in this range. Kouta walked at 278.

So many champions walked when they were done or got tapped on the shoulder. So many between 200 and 300 games.

 

[bmaurizio]

Marc Murphy will achieve he’s 300 games milestone soon and wouldn’t be surprised to see him go around again.
The negative criticism leveled against him is immature and continues across the competition to other retiring champions too, just puerile and nonsensical.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Marc Murphy will achieve he’s 300 games milestone soon and wouldn’t be surprised to see him go around again.
The negative criticism leveled against him is immature and continues across the competition to other retiring champions too, just puerile and nonsensical.

It's just basic list management. When form drops, players get replaced. New players come through. It's called selection integrity.

On what basis do you think Murphy might go around again?

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

Marc Murphy will achieve he’s 300 games milestone soon and wouldn’t be surprised to see him go around again.
The negative criticism leveled against him is immature and continues across the competition to other retiring champions too, just puerile and nonsensical.

Go around again? Please stop.

 

[Lace_Out]

You can't carry players on AFL lists these days.

It's hard enough to bring talent into your team with such a diluted league.

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[bmaurizio]

Agree if valid young players were available and able to contribute and perform better, yes they should given definitely be given an opportunity to do so.

 

[jj1978]

I don't often post, but it seems people have short memories when it comes to Marc Murphy. I for one feel the club ought to do everything possible to get him there. Yes it's just a stat and just a number, but for former captain, multiple time B&F winner and all round Carlton man who gave us plenty of joy in bleak times, i'm more than comfortable with him getting 4-5 sub appearances if it gets him over the line.

Burgoyne got to 400 via the medi-sub and was celebrated all the same. Marc Murphy, despite having his performances fall away more dramatically than many of us would have hoped, was still a fantastic player for us and it will make a great way to say goodbye.

No short memory, at 200 we celebrated for the champion he was... getting to 300 where from about game 220 where he had begun to tarnish his standing, not something to overly applaud.

 

[bmaurizio]

You can't carry players on AFL lists these days.

It's hard enough to bring talent into your team with such a diluted league.

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Exactly , we are bereft of young talent able to contribute 2 quarters let alone a full game. Other teams can select 3 or more promising youngster at ease in the single draft , yet we stumble and then turn on our retiring champions.

 

[Henderlenko]

No short memory, at 200 we celebrated for the champion he was... getting to 300 where from about game 220 where he had begun to tarnish his standing, not something to overly applaud.

I'm not endorsing a new contract, nor am i saying play him in the starting 22, I think he and the club know his time is up, i'm simply saying play him as the medi-sub. I've both felt and vented my frustration at Murph's recent form and bemoan why he couldn't be a mundy, burgoyne style player who lives on using smarts and class but that clearly won't be the case. We may have activated the medi-sub it 5 times this year, if he gets to play another 2 quarters, in a season where we aren't challenging, I can live with that. Just a nice way to say thanks to Murph! Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

He is clearly doing his best to crawl to 300.

It's not the way I wanted to remember Murph, was a gun once upon a time.

I hope he gets there and announce his retirement that week.

If he tries to play on for another year it will be a real disappointment.

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This is the problem now. After getting injured and missing a few weeks, he knows that 300 is almost slipping away. There's no chance he puts his body on the line and risks another injury if he's on the field in the coming weeks. Will doing his best just to stay uninjured.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Agree if valid young players were available and able to contribute and perform better, yes they should given definitely be given an opportunity to do so.

The problem is, any number of players, who haven't been given a single game this year, could have preformed better than Marc has.
Instead of remembering him fondly as a 270ish game player and thinking 'gee it would be handy to have a Marc Murphy out there right now', we're discussing the merits of whether or not he deserves to be carried through to 299 as the med sub, then gifted a farewell game.

 

[gab213]

The problem is, any number of players, who haven't been given a single game this year, could have preformed better than Marc has.
Instead of remembering him fondly as a 270ish game player and thinking 'gee it would be handy to have a Marc Murphy out there right now', we're discussing the merits of whether or not he deserves to be carried through to 299 as the med sub, then gifted a farewell game.

It never really needed to be discussed, it was always going to happen and he's earned it.

All long servants of any club deserve their farewell games regardless of how they are playing at the time.

 

[Lace_Out]

This is the problem now. After getting injured and missing a few weeks, he knows that 300 is almost slipping away. There's no chance he puts his body on the line and risks another injury if he's on the field in the coming weeks. Will doing his best just to stay uninjured.

Agree.

Will be intresting to see how he goes in game 300 with a bit more run in his legs, he may just let rip and turn the clock back. If he does I'm tipping he'll retire.

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[Pentatonic Flat Fifth]

Perhaps you can reflect a moment on his selfishness, not only on the field in refusing to tackle, refusing to chase, constantly selling teammates into trouble (all of which have been going on for years), but in not doing the honourable thing and stepping aside for the benefit of the team. Would it not be a demonstration of "sacrifice and loyalty" to retire with one tiny modicum of grace and self-respect, despite being close to 300? To take ownership of the fact you don't deserve a spot in the side anymore, and a younger bloke does?

I will look back on "battler" Ed Curnow's career far more fondly than Murph's. Huge heart, the very definition of sacrifice and loyalty to his teammates.

Two of my favorite ever players - Brett Ratten and Ed Curnow -their selfless, incredibly humble, team first, courageousness is what its all about.

The idea that Curnow or Ratten would throw a wobbly because they "deserved" to get to 300 - thats all you need to know right there.

Simpson had a fair bit of courage about him too - come to think of it so did Teague.

 

[gab213]

Two of my favorite ever players - Brett Ratten and Ed Curnow -their selfless, incredibly humble, team first, courageousness is what its all about.

The idea that Curnow or Ratten would throw a wobbly because they "deserved" to get to 300 - thats all you need to know right there.

Simpson had a fair bit of courage about him too - come to think of it so did Teague.

Murphy has shown plenty of courage in the past and copped a couple of horrendous injuries thanks to that. Are you indicating that Murphy has 'thrown a wobbly' and how would you know exactly? It's easy to talk crap about someone when you have no idea and the fact that you feel the need to say these kinds of things says more about you than it says about your intended target.

 

[Beyond Blue]

Many players performed dismally & insipidly las week, pointing out one individual is absurd.
Our team played like a bunch of headless chookes, everyone on the planet is aware of that. we have very serious issues to rectify, other than Marc Murphy playing or not in the twilight of a great AFL footfall career.

I think it is a very serious that he continues to be picked when his inability to fulfill his role is impacting the team's ability to discharge its game plan at a time when the clubs needs to prioritise winning games of football to turn around years of poor results. He's certainly no orphan but I think he's been in the bottom handful of performers at Carlton this season. Teague admitted as much when he dropped him earlier in the season because he hadn't been able to fulfill the role the coaches envisaged for him this season. Since then he's had to deal with an injury meaning he is currently not 100% match fit, something Teague also acknowledged in last week's post match presser. Unsurprisingly his performance on the weekend was very poor and his selection for this week should rightly be in serious question. If he is selected I view it poorly on Teague as it suggests a lack of judgment picking an aging, out of form and unfit player. Its decisions like these that can give players reason to question the coaches judgment which can lead to a total breakdown between the coach and the players. When you couple it with failings in so many other areas (other selection blunders, poor tactics and game plan etc.) its understandable why Teague is getting so much criticism.

Murphy's a great player and always will be remembered fondly by me, but football is a tough business where tough decisions have to be made to succeed.