Bluemour Melting Pot XXIX

[myblueroan]

News of a new indie album on the alternative charts (out next week?)

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Hmmmm annoyingly ambiguous
Travelling Australia with wife
Or travelling
Over to Princes Park for a lengthy stay?
Offer too good to refuse?

 

[myblueroan]

Webjet keeps redirecting to Visy for some reason. . .

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DO
NOT
TEASE THE BF ANIMALS.
Gonna need percentages here Royal.

 

[BlueTongue]

Anyone else hear Andy Maher on SEN tonight? Rumour that Jeanie Pratt is giving the club a blank cheque to get Clarko. $12m over 7 years.

So how does that work with the salary cap? Are coaches salaries not included?

 

[sosos]

He likes everyone walking through the long grass that's his persona.
100% poikilothermic.

Kudos for teaching me a new word.
Not sure his ability to vary his temperature to suit his environment is quite the same thing as the long grass metaphor.

But Kudos. Capital K, Dunna HeartKnee.

 

[no fate]

Pick 5, with something late coming back seems about right for me. Anyone who thinks Cerra can be done for anything less than a pick/deal that values him somewhere between 7-12 is being optimistic, because a Vic club will pony that up if we don't.
The question is, how badly do we need a really good mid? I think along with a ruck, this should be our absolute priority.

Agree with you. And it's not about what Cerra's worth, it's about what other clubs are willing to pay. No club is going to outbid us with pick 5 on its own, so why would we sweeten that deal? That might still be the case still if we traded back some places and if so we should do so. Cerra is far from the greatest area of need, don't want to see us putting all our eggs in that basket.

 

[sosos]

And thanks to the mods for flushing toilet boy from the thread, and the whole site so swiftly.

 

[Manhattanite]

I think Carltons 1st (6) + 2nd (24) [maybe a 3rd/SPS] for Cerra + Freo 2nd (32) should get it done imo

I certainly would walk away if it’s 2 x 1sts. Not because of the player but because I think we still need to hit the draft as we have some holes in our list

Our Pick 5 is tough to walk away from. Our 2022 First is undervaluing Cerra.

So maybe we exchange 2021 firsts with Freo and also handover our 2022 First. Some will argue that’s giving two firsts for Cerra. But it’s basically moving back about 4 spots this year. Some will say the drop off from pick 5 to 9 is too much. I don’t know myself as I’m not tracking the draftees.




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[blue healer]

I'm not sure it's being a snake by saying non certain things and generalisations.

Being a snake would be jumping on these shows and saying 'fck yeah I'm taking Teagues job. Lol he sucks amirite, get me in there already'

I think you must have opened Ross's application letter.

 

[La Dispute]

Pick 5, with something late coming back seems about right for me. Anyone who thinks Cerra can be done for anything less than a pick/deal that values him somewhere between 7-12 is being optimistic, because a Vic club will pony that up if we don't.
The question is, how badly do we need a really good mid? I think along with a ruck, this should be our absolute priority.

Players don’t contemplate joining another club once they’ve nominated where they want to go.

As always we will set our expectations, Fremantle will set there’s and the two clubs will meet in the middle.

Our first pick will certainly be involved, probably also our second with a later pick coming pack. Maybe a slight overpay, but Cerra is a much more important acquisition factoring in his age and potential ceiling.

If Cerra elects to head to Carlton I have no doubt a deal with be struck.

 

[katmanblue]

Lot of list management going on in here.

 

[Manhattanite]

Clarkson is an absolute snake, would not be surprised if he backtracks from his 'i will take a year off and chill out' line by next week.

It’s not backtracking it’s a negotiation - you always want the other side to think you have a better offer elsewhere

He did the same with the Hawks to get them to pay him out

He’s doing the same with us - and when the price is right he will sign




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[rampar]

News of a new indie album on the alternative charts (out next week?)

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IDK's are just taking the piss now


My take is its a done deal

 

[katmanblue]

Austin got manhandled by Dodo last year, needs to show some steel this year

Was introduced to the term pegging.

 

[katmanblue]

Saad is a great player, we were desperate and Dodo knew this. That's the problem, we were desperate.

There comes a point that if the trade doesn't work for our club, no matter a players perceived trade value, you can't just pay up.

Cerra is a very very good player, but there's no way a Richmond, *, WB, Melbourne pay the price freo will ask us to if indeed he choose them.

They were more desperate.

They needed to get their other deals done too. Saad was our only deal pending and Saad was perfectly happy to go to PSD.

 

[Crippablues]

So how does that work with the salary cap? Are coaches salaries not included?

Soft cap, not included in the main salary cap. Players and coaches have a separate cap

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[CJMB]

So how does that work with the salary cap? Are coaches salaries not included?

It’s a soft cap for coaches. Going over means you pay a ‘tax’ back to the AFL. Go over by $100k and it costs you an additional $100k in tax.

 

[blue89]

Have heard that the club is going back to the future by going down a captain/coach role. Sam Walsh

18

Sam Walsh

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.1

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.2

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

10.8

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

4.8

5star

being announced next week.

 

[katmanblue]

It’s a soft cap for coaches. Going over means you pay a ‘tax’ back to the AFL. Go over by $100k and it costs you an additional $100k in tax.

$75k

 

[myblueroan]

Lot of list management going on in here.

If you want the best....

 

[HereComesJuddy]

They were more desperate.

They needed to get their other deals done too. Saad was our only deal pending and Saad was perfectly happy to go to PSD.

We should have held out.

Finishing so close to the bottom this year and no doubt our cap getting quite tight, maybe the right thing to do is go to the draft. Of course Cerra would be great. But surely our hands are tied for next year for a needs basis if we add Cerra and then pay Walsh. And we all know we like to front load contracts. Its got to be pretty tight

 

[KohPhi]

Agree with you. And it's not about what Cerra's worth, it's about what other clubs are willing to pay. No club is going to outbid us with pick 5 on its own, so why would we sweeten that deal? That might still be the case still if we traded back some places and if so we should do so. Cerra is far from the greatest area of need, don't want to see us putting all our eggs in that basket.

I reckon our midfield depth, in quality and talent is (as it currently stands) woeful, and would not get us anywhere near top 4-6.

I don't think we sweeten pick 5. I think pick 5 along with something coming back to us is fair. Something that values Cerra somewhere between 7 and 12.

 

[KohPhi]

Have heard that the club is going back to the future by going down a captain/coach role. Sam Walsh being announced next week.

I told you all he was considering his options...

 

[Robertio]

No one lives forever.

 

[AceAndy]

It’s all smoke and mirrors at the moment. “I am taking a year off next year..” is very different from “it is my intention to take a year of next year..”.

For all we know, he may take that year off. But what’s certain is there’s an offer in front of Clarko that is quite considerable, and he’s weighing up his options.

Nothing snake-like about this scenario IMO.

A lot of Clarkson admirers in here. I just dont see it that way.

Starting to think he will be at Carlton next year, very depressing.

 

[ferrisb]

No way Freo accept next year's first.

Cerra is worth so much more than pick 18...