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Club Focus Collingwood 2021 - Kreuger, Lipinski, Daicos, Murley, Harrison

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Orange crush said:
UFA? Would get band 2 you’d think as he has a lot to offer in a more functional forward line
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You need to get paid $600k for a band 2. I can't imagine a single team that would pay Elliott that.
 
No, tier 2 is the end of the 1st round.
 

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markm106 said:
Elliott will be UFA next year. Melbourne and Brisbane were keen last year. Could see a club keen this year if a trade on the cards or UFA next year.
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Doubt he leave after how well the Club has looked after him
 
Steele Sidebottom and Brodie Grundy. Somebody take them.
 
The fact Collingwood's board have said they want a coach for the long haul is a statement that they know the state of their list is bad, and it's going to be a long and painful rebuild.

Well at least that is something.
 
TakingThePies said:
Steele Sidebottom and Brodie Grundy. Somebody take them.
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I can’t see anyone taking on the Grundy contract. And can’t see Collingwood taking on a significant portion like Treloar. Sidebottom an interesting one. Could see him at one of the top clubs on a wing.
 
Elmer_Judd said:
The fact Collingwood's board have said they want a coach for the long haul is a statement that they know the state of their list is bad, and it's going to be a long and painful rebuild.

Well at least that is something.
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I would take that positively if I was a possible young trade in or draftee. Nothing worse than a revolving door for coaches
 

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barrackers said:
The Saad trade was overs at the time. Don't see how one club overpaying for another player affects Maynard's potential trade value though especially since they're completely different types of player. That both play in the backline is about the only thing Maynard and Saad have in common.
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Agreed.

You can make a case for what Maynard is worth, but the fact Carlton got fleeced for Saad isn't relevant.
 
Gotta keep JDG.

Elliott you could try to cash in on.

Say to GC for their pick 23 and 55 makes Daicos points a lot easier to manage and still have some picks on the table in the 3rd and 4th rounds.
 
I believe Collingwood needs to go hard on a full reset. Losing some quality players in the short term will be tough, but it is necessary to build a good young team and will create some excitement for the supporters going forward.

Must keep for leadership
Pendlebury
Adams
Crisp
Roughead
Howe
Moore


Must keep as next generation
Quaynor
Macrae
Ruscoe
McInnes
Poulter
Ginnivan
Henry

Remain open to a godfather offer
De Goey
Grundy
Maynard

Trade bait
Elliot
Sidebottom
Mihocek

Best offer/delist (depending on contract status)
Callum brown
Wilson
Thomas
Hoskin Elliott
Sier
Cox

Keep to remain competitive
Daicos
Noble
Cameron
Madgen
Lynch

Too early to call (haven't seen enough of them)
Rantall
T brown
Bianco
Keane
Kelly
Murphy
McMahon
Mccreery
Chugg
Begg
Johnson
Tohill
 
They are in a world of hurt:
  1. Basically one draft pick this year to show for finishing second last.
  2. Proven coaches don't want to go there.
  3. Off field a mess.
  4. Recruiter left.
  5. Captain shopping himself around.
  6. Still have cap problems.
  7. A ruckman on a massive contract that will hamper them for seven years.
  8. DeGoey finally turns the corner and will probably be outta there at the end of next year for the best offer.
  9. Moore, Maynard and DeGoey all become RFA at the end of next year.
 

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adonski said:
Would it even be worth trading Elliott? You'd never get 'fair' compensation due to his durability concerns
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Why wouldn't they? Not in their next premiership side, I may be speculating but doesn't appear to add much in leadership, still has plenty to offer a contender like Melbourne or Sydney, Collingwood needs picks and doesn't need his paycheck included in their salary cap. Wouldn't expect a first rounder for him but third rounder could be a win-win
 
Drykill01 said:
Why wouldn't they? Not in their next premiership side, I may be speculating but doesn't appear to add much in leadership, still has plenty to offer a contender like Melbourne or Sydney, Collingwood needs picks and doesn't need his paycheck included in their salary cap. Wouldn't expect a first rounder for him but third rounder could be a win-win
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I'd rather keep a player of Elliott's talent rather than give him up for an average pick
 
Drykill01 said:
I believe Collingwood needs to go hard on a full reset. Losing some quality players in the short term will be tough, but it is necessary to build a good young team and will create some excitement for the supporters going forward.

Must keep for leadership
Pendlebury
Adams
Crisp
Roughead
Howe
Moore


Must keep as next generation
Quaynor
Macrae
Ruscoe
McInnes
Poulter
Ginnivan
Henry

Remain open to a godfather offer
De Goey
Grundy
Maynard

Trade bait
Elliot
Sidebottom
Mihocek

Best offer/delist (depending on contract status)
Callum brown
Wilson
Thomas
Hoskin Elliott
Sier
Cox

Keep to remain competitive
Daicos
Noble
Cameron
Madgen
Lynch

Too early to call (haven't seen enough of them)
Rantall
T brown
Bianco
Keane
Kelly
Murphy
McMahon
Mccreery
Chugg
Begg
Johnson
Tohill
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If you want to 'go hard on a full reset' you have do more than just offloading your dead wood. Nobody wants them.

None of your 'tradebait' are worth anything (except maybe a 3rd for Elliot if he passes a medical). Grundy is untradeable (because nobody wants that contract). Nobody wants JDG (because he is who he is). That leaves Maynard, who you should get an early second rounder for.

If you want to do a 'full reset' why do you need to retain players to 'remain competitive'? You could just play the kids and would get more for Noble and Daicos than anyone in your tradebait group.





Also, we'll be taking Moore as an RFA next year. Sorry about that.
 
Drykill01 said:
I believe Collingwood needs to go hard on a full reset. Losing some quality players in the short term will be tough, but it is necessary to build a good young team and will create some excitement for the supporters going forward.

Must keep for leadership
Pendlebury
Adams
Crisp
Roughead
Howe
Moore


Must keep as next generation
Quaynor
Macrae
Ruscoe
McInnes
Poulter
Ginnivan
Henry

Remain open to a godfather offer
De Goey
Grundy
Maynard

Trade bait
Elliot
Sidebottom
Mihocek

Best offer/delist (depending on contract status)
Callum brown
Wilson
Thomas
Hoskin Elliott
Sier
Cox

Keep to remain competitive
Daicos
Noble
Cameron
Madgen
Lynch

Too early to call (haven't seen enough of them)
Rantall
T brown
Bianco
Keane
Kelly
Murphy
McMahon
Mccreery
Chugg
Begg
Johnson
Tohill
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Not just about going hard reset, you need the draft capital for Daicos and you don't want to carry to much into next season either which would hamper the rebuild.

Might have to look at a few of your leadership players to trade out for a hard reset
 
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