Traded Adam Cerra traded to Carlton for pick #6 and F3

[Polo342]

fu** me I love how you are talking him up like he is some kind of already made superstar which he is not

He is the 5th best midfielder in a pretty average ******* football team. You don't pay a premium price for that kind of player

Stop talking like he is Chris Judd at the same age

So would you say the dockers midfield is pretty average? Your comparing a 21 year old to Nathan Fyfe and David Mundy here!! As for Brayshaw well he would probably be up there with Walsh for his age. That leaves Serong. Cerra is better than serong if you ask most freo supporters

 

[Polo342]

So what's Neale worth then? 4 first round picks?

Unsure on his worth. 29 is pretty damn old compared to our list demographic

 

[Mangus]

I would think the Dion Prestia

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Dion Prestia

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33

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175cm

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84kg

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Mid

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24.1

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12.7

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11.4

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3.1

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4.4

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4.6

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21.2

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10.4

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10.8

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2.4

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4.2

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3.2

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12.8

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6.0

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6.8

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3.2

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3.0

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1.4

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trade is a fair comparison Pestia was a bit older and had proven a bit more but like Cerra projected as a good rather than great midfielder. Tiges gave up Pick 6 and a future 2nd rounder but got Prestia and pick 24 back. Seems about right both young homesick out of contract. Carlton even have pick 6 this year. Personally, I rated Prestia pretty highly at the time and Cerra right now not so much but I try not to watch Dockers games if possible so not the best judge.

 

[Fat Tony!]

The Ed Langdon

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Ed Langdon

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29

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182cm

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78kg

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Mid

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21.0

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12.1

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9.0

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5.0

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2.3

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1.4

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20.3

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12.8

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7.5

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4.5

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0.8

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1.8

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13.0

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6.4

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6.6

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3.0

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2.4

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CL

0.6

3star

trade is another indication of value.

Langdon departed the Dockers after playing 68 games and came off consecutive top-five Doig Medal finishes.

The Demons handed over picks No.22, 79 and a future second-round selection for the 23-year-old, while the Dockers gave up Langdon, pick No.26 and a future fourth-round selection.

The Dockers fans will argue the Demons paid unders for Langdon but that's just what happens when you lose good young uncontracted players when they leave to go home.

 

[Polo342]

The Ed Langdon trade is another indication of value.

Langdon departed the Dockers after playing 68 games and came off consecutive top-five Doig Medal finishes.

The Demons handed over picks No.22, 79 and a future second-round selection for the 23-year-old, while the Dockers gave up Langdon, pick No.26 and a future fourth-round selection.

The Dockers fans will argue the Demons paid unders for Langdon but that's just what happens when you lose good young uncontracted players when they leave to go home.

Ohhhh boy now we are comparing Cerra to Langdon. Why are Melbourne chasing Cerra if they believe he is "average"

 

[philthy05]

Absolutely I would, personally I would much rather take our 1st to the draft.. If Freo were happy to accept a future 1st i would consider that, but IMO paying 6 for Cerra is overs and anything more than that is laughable.

Then you’re a one eyed nuffie

How many first round draft picks has Carlton tanked?

 

[Dangerousfield]

Have Freo announced there BNF results yet and where did Cerra finish?

I am looking for similar trades, Brad Hill maybe close where Freo go picks 10, 58 & Blake Acres..
Dylan Shiel got pick 9 and the following years 1st, with GWS getting a 2nd back. But Shiel had been an All Australian the year previous and considered more valuable than Cerra.
Davon Smith is probably about right where, Essendon gave up pick 11 but got back 2 x 2nd round picks from GWS for Smith.

Any deals involving GWS can be discounted as valid as over 10 years they were swimming in first and second rounders giving them away freely in order to get very pointy end picks. They also were swimming in quality mids trading them out readily also to get very pointy end picks.

Cerra is a former pick 5 who has lived up to his draft position, ready to go and coming into the best 10 years of his career, he's a pick 8 and 27 from Carlton every day of the week. Picks adjusted for Daicos and Darcy.

 

[Purple Suit]

The Ed Langdon trade is another indication of value.

Langdon departed the Dockers after playing 68 games and came off consecutive top-five Doig Medal finishes.

The Demons handed over picks No.22, 79 and a future second-round selection for the 23-year-old, while the Dockers gave up Langdon, pick No.26 and a future fourth-round selection.

The Dockers fans will argue the Demons paid unders for Langdon but that's just what happens when you lose good young uncontracted players when they leave to go home.

You finished 2nd last so could get him in the PSD with GC not going to try and poach him. Leverage is everything and you got him for massive unders. Like if Jackson says he wants to come back to Perth next year without a contract.

Cerra hasn't nominated anybody and can't get to Melbourne through the PSD.

 

[raffrox]

The Ed Langdon trade is another indication of value.

Langdon departed the Dockers after playing 68 games and came off consecutive top-five Doig Medal finishes.

The Demons handed over picks No.22, 79 and a future second-round selection for the 23-year-old, while the Dockers gave up Langdon, pick No.26 and a future fourth-round selection.

The Dockers fans will argue the Demons paid unders for Langdon but that's just what happens when you lose good young uncontracted players when they leave to go home.

Wow. Now we are comparing Cerra to Langdon are we?

Even with three extra years of development that Ed has on Cerra at the moment I wouldn't take Ed. And thats with you team humming along where everyone looks better. Let alone where Cerra will be at a similar level of development and experience. Brad Hill has also shown why pure wings don't hold as much value as Rolls Royce midfielders.

You're striking me as one of those kind of people that say, "I haven't watched many Freo games this year but I reckon.... "

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

The whole media is running with Cerra to Carlton for at least pick 6 (plus more), think it's fair to say that paperwork aside, it's pretty much a done deal, other parts of the trade need to be worked ou obviously.

Pretty sure currenr AFL rules stipulate a player cannot request to be traded to a specific club until after the Grand Final anyway.

Dunno why some Dees fans are worked up about this anyway, 2 wins away from their first Flag in almost 60 years, if I was a Melbourne fan that is all I would be concerned about anyway.

 

[00Stinger]

So would you say the dockers midfield is pretty average? Your comparing a 21 year old to Nathan Fyfe and David Mundy here!! As for Brayshaw well he would probably be up there with Walsh for his age. That leaves Serong. Cerra is better than serong if you ask most freo supporters

Yeah I would say average. Freos midfield would be somewhere in the 7-10 bracket off top of my head

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Eh, confident 13 and 33 doesnt get it done if nominates Melbourne they'll have a plan to get it done properly, not through trying to shaft us. Melbourne have been brilliant at list management the last 5 years not because they've shafted the other team on the trade, but because every player as been the right for them and they've paid an appropriate price.

90% it will be Carlton and it will be 6 and upgrading a 3rd to a 2nd in someway. That's market value for someone like Cerra

 

[Pure_Ownage]

If Cerra wants to go to Melbourne they’ll get him.

This is not how it works.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

This is not how it works.

I mean, he's probably right, but they'll get him paying fair price

 

[Kings of Lygon]

Eh, confident 13 and 33 doesnt get it done if nominates Melbourne they'll have a plan to get it done properly, not through trying to shaft us. Melbourne have been brilliant at list management the last 5 years not because they've shafted the other team on the trade, but because every player as been the right for them and they've paid an appropriate price.

90% it will be Carlton and it will be 6 and upgrading a 3rd to a 2nd in someway. That's market value for someone like Cerra

I think the bolded is very palatable for both sides and realistic. It's probably bitter for Freo fans to swallow, but he is OOC and wants to go home.

Carlton's 2021 1st and 2022 2nd for Cerra and Fremantle's 2022 3rd would work.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I mean, he's probably right, but they'll get him paying fair price

They wont get him unless they find the currency. This is not leagues without salary caps and draft picks where you can just buy anyone you want.
They wont get cerra done without losing a good player in the deal.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Eh, confident 13 and 33 doesnt get it done if nominates Melbourne they'll have a plan to get it done properly, not through trying to shaft us. Melbourne have been brilliant at list management the last 5 years not because they've shafted the other team on the trade, but because every player as been the right for them and they've paid an appropriate price.

90% it will be Carlton and it will be 6 and upgrading a 3rd to a 2nd in someway. That's market value for someone like Cerra

Melbourne Don't have the salary cap space to fit in Cerra either, not if they want to sign up Jackson long term, which IMHO should be number 1 on their list management agenda.

Dees are just playing games here, whether to make Carlton cough up more or try put themselves out as a Destination Club (which I cannot blame them for doing either btw), but Cerra will be a Carlton player. Once we target and identify a player we want, we usually get hi.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I think the bolded is very palatable for both sides and realistic. It's probably bitter for Freo fans to swallow, but he is OOC and wants to go home.

Carlton's 2021 1st and 2022 2nd for Cerra and Fremantle's 2022 3rd would work.

Yeah, said a while ago but I imagine almost all the haggling will be down to whether its pick 24 or a future 2nd thrown in. Both clubs will really really want that pick 24. 6 (which becomes 8) and change is non-negotiable and I think the trade I said was first said by Kreuuuzeurns so credit to him, even if he does like to troll a little bit in here

 

[Kings of Lygon]

Yeah, said a while ago but I imagine almost all the haggling will be down to whether its pick 24 or a future 2nd thrown in. Both clubs will really really want that pick 24. 6 (which becomes 8) and change is non-negotiable and I think the trade I said was first said by Kreuuuzeurns so credit to him, even if he does like to troll a little bit in here

I agree.

Freo would want it because it's concrete and there would be expectations that Carlton improve next year probably. Carlton will argue that they would do it with 2021 picks, but Fremantle don't have a 3rd so they would be the only club taking the future risk.

I imagine also Carlton will want to have a pick before 52 and keep 25, especially after the 'COVID' draft last year where there were a lot of unknowns. If Freo are steadfast on a pick this year, I think a club like Geelong with several picks in the 30s could be an example to help out and have a good rapport trading with Carlton. Melbourne would also fit this bill.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

This is not how it works.

Cerra will get to whatever club he nominates one way or another.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Yeah, said a while ago but I imagine almost all the haggling will be down to whether its pick 24 or a future 2nd thrown in. Both clubs will really really want that pick 24. 6 (which becomes 8) and change is non-negotiable and I think the trade I said was first said by Kreuuuzeurns so credit to him, even if he does like to troll a little bit in here

6 + 24/F2 + SPS > Cerra + F3 was my original suggestion.

Dependant on SPS wanting out and Freo wanting SPS ofcourse.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

6 + 24/F2 + SPS > Cerra + F3 was my original suggestion.

Dependant on SPS wanting out and Freo wanting SPS ofcourse.

Even more generous, I dont think any Freo supporter would be upset with that, regardless of what we think of SPS

 

[Prochard123]

I think you are serioulsy overrating Cerra.. he might have gone pick 5 in the draft, but he would be lucky to be rated top 10 if it was redrafted now... Brayshaw, Naughton, Tim Kelly, Noah Balta, Liam Ryan, Bailey Fritsch, Tom McCartin would all be well in front and then would be even with players like Jaidyn Stephenson, LDU, Cam Rayner & James Worpel.. and that is in what on face value looks a pretty weak draft year.

Firstly, what...

Secondly, that was one of the strongest drafts in the last few years, him not making top 5 in a redraft does not mean he's not worth that now.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Even more generous, I dont think any Freo supporter would be upset with that, regardless of what we think of SPS

I don’t think it’s extremely generous. Cerra is a talent worth pick 6. You are due additional as he is ready to impact and we know what he can do.

I still think SPS will be more than handy but he doesn’t hold much value right now.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I don’t think it’s extremely generous. Cerra is a talent worth pick 6. You are due additional as he is ready to impact and we know what he can do.

I still think SPS will be more than handy but he doesn’t hold much value right now.

Haha yeah, generous wasnt the right term. I agree, your trade is spot on IMO