Racing September Daily Punt Thread - Is Zaaki The New Winx?

[TBellicious]

Bad luck Hutchi

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Gee Allen sure knows how to butcher them

 

[Slipps]

Bad luck Hutchi

Thank f**k for that he already ruined one radio station..

 

[IKnowtheDog]

Zeyrek is now in the Metrop field!!!

 

[Slipps]

Zeyrek is now in the Metrop field!!!

To bad its trained by Wayne Hawkes

 

[54Dogs]

To bad its trained by Wayne Hawkes

Has the Hilal polish

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Finding it hard to see how VE is going to beat Incentivise on Saturday who should strip much fitter after his Makybe win

 

[toxic]

Finding it hard to see how VE is going to beat Incentivise on Saturday who should strip much fitter after his Makybe win

Track conditions

 

[iluvparis]

Track conditions

Incentivise only go on the wet he won by 7 at Toowoomba - is he really not going to handle it? Plus pretty rare for Flem to go absolutely bottomless

 

[toxic]

Incentivise only go on the wet he won by 7 at Toowoomba - is he really not going to handle it? Plus pretty rare for Flem to go absolutely bottomless

Agreed on Flem

Not sure the Toowoomba field had much (any) depth

 

[iluvparis]

Agreed on Flem

Not sure the Toowoomba field had much (any) depth

None of his form had any depth in Queensland and he still won the Makybe Diva

 

[Slipps]

Track conditions

Hasnt been a drop of rain all week and Flemo is currently a good 3

 

[Joker91]

Hasnt been a drop of rain all week and Flemo is currently a good 3

Rained last night, track is currently a GOOD4. Few mm predicted today & tomorrow.

Will be in the soft range. Light showers Saturday as well.

 

[thetradesman]

Can't help but think people aren't giving VE the respect she deserves. She has won 9 group Ones, last years Caulfield Cup winner after a torrid run (and won the Turnbull last year overcoming a tough run as well). She will get an economical run here, has the fitness edge over Incentivize (you would expect) and I think she peels off him at the 250m and grabs him late. Hoping people are right regarding Incentivize starting fav because I'll keep backing the drift!

 

[iluvparis]

Can't help but think people aren't giving VE the respect she deserves. She has won 9 group Ones, last years Caulfield Cup winner after a torrid run (and won the Turnbull last year overcoming a tough run as well). She will get an economical run here, has the fitness edge over Incentivize (you would expect) and I think she peels off him at the 250m and grabs him late. Hoping people are right regarding Incentivize starting fav because I'll keep backing the drift!

How is she not respected? She is clear fave! - this time ahead of her George Main win she was basically the same price as she is now but against TIO and Riodini - lel

The map/pace favours Incentivise much more than her - her main advantage will be if the rain comes and I think the early move for her is partially behind that.

 

[BuddysBiggestFan]

No love for the Dragon?

 

[mcnulty]

No love for the Dragon?

I’m in two minds. Clearly it was way better than anything he’s done at the distance before, but that’s not necessarily a good sign moving forward.

Worth a bet at 8.50, one of only three that can win it. Interested to see if the money comes for him.

 

[iluvparis]

No love for the Dragon?

Maps poorly and 2000 still short of his optimum trip - how's he turn around the form with VE from the Ranvet/QE? Given his SPs in those were $14 and $7 he is at rock bottom odds

 

[mcnulty]

Maps poorly and 2000 still short of his optimum trip - how's he turn around the form with VE from the Ranvet/QE? Given his SPs in those were $14 and $7 he is at rock bottom odds

True but those 2000m races in Sydney were crawls. Hoping Incentivise runs them along a bit here.

 

[iluvparis]

True but those 2000m races in Sydney were crawls. Hoping Incentivise runs them along a bit here.

I expect this to be a crawl too - but yes if Incentivise makes it a stern staying test than the Dragon can feature.

 

[mcnulty]

I expect this to be a crawl too - but yes if Incentivise makes it a stern staying test than the Dragon can feature.

I fear your may be right. I don’t think it’s in Incentivise’s best interest in this race, or for its preparation going into the Cups, to turn this into a sit sprint. But let’s face it, our jockeys can’t help themselves. Find the front, drop anchor.

 

[BuddysBiggestFan]

Maps poorly and 2000 still short of his optimum trip - how's he turn around the form with VE from the Ranvet/QE? Given his SPs in those were $14 and $7 he is at rock bottom odds

Cox Plate is at 2040m?

 

[thetradesman]

How is she not respected? She is clear fave! - this time ahead of her George Main win she was basically the same price as she is now but against TIO and Riodini - lel

The map/pace favours Incentivise much more than her - her main advantage will be if the rain comes and I think the early move for her is partially behind that.

I think Incentivize will probably start fav (odds could completely switch around and we could get $2.80+ VE) and that's where my not respected comment came from.

I just think we've got a proven champion who we know loves a dog fight VS an unknown quantity still in many respects and until Incentivize proves it against the best middle-distance horse we have, I'm happy to be against him.

Could have egg all over my face of course. That's TGG.

 

[iluvparis]

Cox Plate is at 2040m?

Yes and the one he won was brutally run on a wet track and was one of the lowest rated ones for some time - VE would have walked it in had she gone there IMHO

 

[iluvparis]

I think Incentivize will probably start fav (odds could completely switch around and we could get $2.80+ VE) and that's where my not respected comment came from.

I just think we've got a proven champion who we know loves a dog fight VS an unknown quantity still in many respects and until Incentivize proves it against the best middle-distance horse we have, I'm happy to be against him.

Could have egg all over my face of course. That's TGG.

Did he not prove it last start though? Apart from VE and Zaaki there is no other decent WFA horses - so I guess on that basis he is still unproven - but he beat Mounga who beat home VE first up (admittedly over a trip far too short for VE)