Event AMA with Admin Candidates

[kdavva]

Also what will you do to support the entry of a 14th team shortly thereafter?

I don't think it would be fair to offer much more assistance than logistical and administrative support, ie helping them understand the criteria they must fill for entry.

But just as I would be committed to giving the OOB a second chance I would allow new bids to have a crack at any opportunity, I think it's time for 14 teams. I cannot make it happen but I would welcome it as much as I could.

 

[TJASTA]

For someone who isn't running for admin or posting much in this thread, TJASTA seems strangely overinvested aha

I jus' don't like democracy in action. They shall 'ave t' meet up in real life 'n fight each other fer this position. That be the makin' o' a true leader.

 

[Cadsky]

I'd like to know each candidates views and ideas on how we will manage a bye next season should the old boys bid be approved?
PMBangers kdavva Barrybran Kennedy Parker

 

[PMBangers]

1) @PMBangers , you state in your vision that Qooty has taken a backseat and yet one of the things you want to do is simply the all-SFA process. Wouldn't that make Qooty be even more of a backseat? You also talk about drama , which again, isn't a focus on Qooty.
Also there have been some concerns raised about your behaviour and therefore suitability to be admin in recent months (eg the tour PM). How can we be assured that you're a mature, and appropriate representative for the league?

The All-SFA process is currently too influenced by posting imo, we've seen deserving Qooty performances miss because people don't like how another person posts. My aim would be to get a consensus on how each LG rates the importance of particular stats in each position and have that as a 'skeleton team', with discussion from there with stats arguments only. For example if the two back pockets selected are significantly worse than the 3rd/4th back flankers there would be a discussion about making adjustments, to me this removes factors external to the sim

Have there been concerns raised? This is the first I've heard of it. Regardless, you're right what happened in the tour PM was a shit act, but also a one off, all there is is my word

 

[DenieD]

I'd like to know each candidates views and ideas on how we will manage a bye next season should the old boys bid be approved?
PMBangers kdavva Barrybran Kennedy Parker

Moz we are only 4 pages in and you have already doubled up on posting literally the same question Ned did on the other page. Keep up.

 

[Barrybran]

Barrybran would each sub-committee member represent a handful off clubs? For example member 1 might represent Wonders, Bombers & Old Boys. Seems the fairest way imo

No. The sub-committee would represent the board. I don't represent any club as a simmer. I would, however, expect all clubs to be represented across any sub-committees that exist where it is practical to do (have 12 simmers, for example, is overkill).

aAt least you understand where we are coming from. But again, can you cite some examples aside from the rules where this read tape has gotten in the way? And also examples of some of the red tape? Without those examples and also without a clear vision beyond this one and implementing ideas like KP's , it feels as if you're trying to fix something that isn't even broken

What needs fixing? What I said was that I wasn't going to seek 12 opinions for every decision I make. I'll take ideas in, I'll collate and I'll implement. If people object to a decision I make they have the opportunity to object through rule 10A.

 

[Cadsky]

Moz we are only 4 pages in and you have already doubled up on posting literally the same question Ned did on the other page. Keep up.

Yeah I missed it. Relax

 

[kdavva]

I'd like to know each candidates views and ideas on how we will manage a bye next season should the old boys bid be approved?
@PMBangers @kdavva @Barrybran @Kennedy Parker

As I've said earlier I think the idea of bye club posters being responsible for that week's match thread OPs makes a lot of sense.

I think forcing the club to do much else would be a tad overbearing and I would hope captains and LGs are creative enough to make use of the time. I think it's a chance to be creative and it would help the 'mid-season burnout' phenomenon we see in this league.

 

[MWPP]

No. The sub-committee would represent the board. I don't represent any club as a simmer. I would, however, expect all clubs to be represented across any sub-committees that exist where it is practical to do (have 12 simmers, for example, is overkill).


What needs fixing? What I said was that I wasn't going to seek 12 opinions for every decision I make. I'll take ideas in, I'll collate and I'll implement. If people object to a decision I make they have the opportunity to object through rule 10A.

Aside from rules changes, what sort of decisions are you talking about? I take it the bigger things like penalties and votes for admin/expansion/all-sfa would remain committee based, but are there any other decisions that you wouldn't run by the committee?
FWIW I don't think ND ran every single minor decision by us either , sometimes to criticism eg when the writeups for all-SFA were removed, but the important ones were
The reason I keep asking is because I do consider rule changes significant, and to take away committee discussions on rules seems to be a fairly major step moving forward

 

[grumbleguts]

Barrybran
What is the point of putting the word “dictionary” in the dictionary? Wouldn’t you already know what it meant?
If you had a dream that none of your dreams would come true, and you woke up and had none of your real-life dreams come true, would that be a dream come true?
If everyone says that life is unfair, then isn’t it unfair for everyone? Doesn’t that mean that life is fair?


kdavva
What would happen to Pinocchio if he said “My nose will grow”?
What happens if you fall in a pool of immortality and can’t swim?
Why are they called construction sites when we are building them and buildings when they are built?


Kennedy Parker
If you punch yourself and it hurts are you weak or strong?
If you set out to fail and you succeed, which have you done?
If you describe something as indescribable isn’t that a description?


PMBangers
Why is vanilla ice cream white if vanilla is brown?
If you told someone to ‘be a leader and not a follower’, wouldn’t they become a follower by following your advice?
With only a "yes" or "no", is the answer to this question "no"?

And for all four:
Is the word heterologous, actually heterologous?

 

[PMBangers]

I'd like to know each candidates views and ideas on how we will manage a bye next season should the old boys bid be approved?
PMBangers kdavva Barrybran Kennedy Parker

PMBangers Barrybran kdavva Kennedy Parker

If the Old Boys bid is successful, how will you manage the 13 team season in S34?

Also what will you do to support the entry of a 14th team shortly thereafter?

Feel I covered my stance fairly well in my EOI fellas. As for a 14th team, I'd encourage one certainly and look to aid where I can (double checking eligibility of guidelines, assist in recruitment, offer ideas if they're wanted), but wouldn't want a rushed job. How Turbo has gone about the OOB stuff is the standard that's set now, open and clear with the league and proactive in approaching committee members for questioning and such

 

[Barrybran]

Barrybran - do you have any other examples of others' great ideas, other than KP's QootyPy?
Even outlining some of those ideas and crediting them where it's due, like KP himself did, would be helpful

Not at the moment. If someone has an idea I'll cross that bridge then.

Let's slow down and give other people a chance to ask questions, yeah?

 

[MWPP]

The All-SFA process is currently too influenced by posting imo, we've seen deserving Qooty performances miss because people don't like how another person posts. My aim would be to get a consensus on how each LG rates the importance of particular stats in each position and have that as a 'skeleton team', with discussion from there with stats arguments only. For example if the two back pockets selected are significantly worse than the 3rd/4th back flankers there would be a discussion about making adjustments, to me this removes factors external to the sim

Have there been concerns raised? This is the first I've heard of it. Regardless, you're right what happened in the tour PM was a sh*t act, but also a one off, all there is is my word

The problem is that the quality of posting relates to the /not liking how someone else posts part and is inherently subjective. In other words, it's a nice idea, but the implementation of it is going to be a challenge for that principle alone. As it stands, most of the discussion happens at LG level. So are you proposing a return to discussion at committee level? If so, I'm not necessarily opposed to it but I don't think you'd get a lot of support for it since that's yet another shift that has been welcomed. Also stats themselves are subjective because obviously people value different ones.

To use last year as an example, which people do you think missed out despite deserving qooty performances and made it on the back of posting alone instead?

They have, but maybe it's the first time they've been raised to you. Until that point, many people thought you would be the automatic next admin. The tour PM wasn't that long ago either. I hope you understand that it'll take some time before the respect /trust is re-won. But thanks for your word.

 

[Barrybran]

PMBangers Barrybran kdavva Kennedy Parker

If the Old Boys bid is successful, how will you manage the 13 team season in S34?

Also what will you do to support the entry of a 14th team shortly thereafter?

Good question and an actual example of the admin needing to make a decision seeing as there has been minimal discussion on the topic in the committee.

At the moment the default would be a 13-week season with byes. To stretch into a 16/17 week season would require double headers, which isn't really a viable solution. In the short term, you might push the start of the season back and run a draft comp like the one PMBangers ran.

I would be trying to help facilitate the introduction of a 14th team though as there is more flexibility with 14 teams than with 13.

 

[Headless]

They have, but maybe it's the first time they've been raised to you. Until that point, many people thought you would be the automatic next admin. The tour PM wasn't that long ago either. I hope you understand that it'll take some time before the respect /trust is re-won. But thanks for your word.

Context?

 

[MWPP]

Not at the moment. If someone has an idea I'll cross that bridge then.

Ok, you did mention plural so I thought there were others you had in mind for the moment. Thanks for the clarification

 

[Cadsky]

Good question and an actual example of the admin needing to make a decision seeing as there has been minimal discussion on the topic in the committee.

At the moment the default would be a 13-week season with byes. To stretch into a 16/17 week season would require double headers, which isn't really a viable solution. In the short term, you might push the start of the season back and run a draft comp like the one PMBangers ran.

I would be trying to help facilitate the introduction of a 14th team though as there is more flexibility with 14 teams than with 13.

Millky95 vampires are back!

 

[MWPP]

Context?

Totally inappropriate stuff that wouldn't be acceptable from a regular poster let alone mod (albeit from a different forum, not SFA) or aspiring SFA admin and has rightly resulted in PMB's character being called into question. Enough people would have seen it /been aware of it but if you haven't, ask your tour rep /committee rep. It's not the place to share it here

 

[Barrybran]

Millky95 vampires are back!

 

[Cadsky]

Do I get a free $5 voucher if I join the bid?

 

[Barrybran]

Do I get a free $5 voucher if I join the bid?

I'm sure I can figure something out

 

[Cadsky]

No. The sub-committee would represent the board. I don't represent any club as a simmer. I would, however, expect all clubs to be represented across any sub-committees that exist where it is practical to do (have 12 simmers, for example, is overkill).

Sorry Baz, I'm not 100% sure I understand what you're saying here. You plan to have a 5-6 man sub-committee so to me it sounds like the committee wouldn't be representing clubs but rather the SFA as a whole. How do you plan to keep it fair across the league? Simming I understand none of the simmers can Sim their own games so would the reps NOT speak for their own clubs? I'm just trying to get my head around the mechanisms of how this would work.

 

[MWPP]

Barrybran
- if you don't even want the responsibility of being the administrator, why do you feel you're best placed to take this board over the next couple of seasons? Obviously wanting it is an important trait for an administrator .
-you also mentioned that PMB would do a fine job in your original pitch. What are your thoughts on the bids from kdavva and Kennedy Parker ?
-Without a grand vision on where to take this board, and simply aiming to keep things running, without running things by the committee, how do you propose keeping things running when you don't even want the responsibility?
Your last point makes me wonder- would you enjoy the next few seasons more as a non-administrator than an administrator?

 

[MWPP]

Contents of this post have been censored

Once again, might as well share your pitch in this open forum and let everyone else judge

 

[Barrybran]

Sorry Baz, I'm not 100% sure I understand what you're saying here. You plan to have a 5-6 man sub-committee so to me it sounds like the committee wouldn't be representing clubs but rather the SFA as a whole. How do you plan to keep it fair across the league? Simming I understand none of the simmers can Sim their own games so would the reps NOT speak for their own clubs? I'm just trying to get my head around the mechanisms of how this would work.

Firstly, I'm not planning any sub-committees. I'm merely responding to questions that are being asked. There is merit for the use of sub-committees to consider things like rules and awards that don't need 12 voices to help the admin set parameters.

I explained how I would keep this fair above. The sum of all sub-committees would be represented primarily by having the right people in each group with a view to having all clubs represented without any one or two clubs being overrepresented. It would not be equal representation (we don't have equal representation in the sim group but I defy anyone to question the integrity of anyone in that group or the admins responsible for appointing those people to that role).