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Preview 2022 Rd 20 Carlton vs Adelaide Saturday July 30 7:30PM @ Adelaide Oval - Team Post #586

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So he has been dropped. I don’t agree with it but support it

Same…kinda….

Needs a freshen up, has been playing sore by the looks of it…still preformed well tho

We are all of a sudden bigger and less mobile than we previously have been with Pitto and Gov recent additions.

Considering Adelaide don’t play with a tall defence this week, there is a chance we could be turning and advantage (height) into too
Much of a disadvantage

If he’s a sub great (gets a rest) I don’t think he plays VFL imo


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For sure, but it's not every week, and there are others who can do the same.

When GWS were coming at us last weekend, it wasn't JSOS who raised the bar and dragged the team with him, it was Walsh and Saad. Sometimes it's Crippa putting the team on his back, other times it's Harry or Charlie grabbing a game by the throat, or Weitering and Docherty putting their bodies on the line to save a goal.

There's a bit of a risk in attaching the club's "spirit" to a single player. Jack gives his all, respect him immensely for that, but if the list of available players and their positions/form dictates that he's 23rd or 24th man, either outright or because he's been overworked and that's affecting his game, then that's just how it is. He'll respond, I'm sure. We'll tinker. Maybe TDK will struggle to acclimatise to a 70/30 forward/ruck role and JSOS will walk back in. Maybe it's a horses for courses thing, and we want to be able to select one of TDK/JSOS based on the ruck setup we'll be facing.
You are right.
 

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With all the important fuss about JSoS, I’ve had less time to process our next match and must admit I’ve just banked this Adelaide game as a win.

Are Adelaide even relevant…
 
My takeaway from Voss's press conference is that this week's selection is part of our continuing experiment to discover what sort of forward line works best for us. Doesn't sound like there's anything around form or effort that has led to JSOS being dropped, they've just decided to go with a particular setup this week.

Seems pretty clear that JSOS will be back before long as we continue to trial other options. And after that, whatever works best is what we'll go with into finals and longer term.

Can't really argue with that as an approach. Seems like a reasonable process to me, and I rate JSOS highly enough to feel confident that our best forward setup will include him.
 
Silvagni 'disappointed' after axing for Blues' must-win game - Silvagni 'disappointed' after axing for Blues' must-win game

Boy, would really sting for a guy like JSOS who's been around since the start of the rebuild to miss out on finals due to being squeezed out of the team when we finally make it... after all these down years.

Has played such a crucial role for us too this year.
 
I am unsure how I feel about Silvagni being dropped, are we too tall with the below rolling through? Think we had this first few rounds didn't we?

Pittonet
TDK
McKay
Curnow
Silvagni

We clearly can't continue with Silvagni rucking, so TDK and Pitt are locks. So are McKay and Curnow. Question remains whether we can have SOS in there too.

Notable that we are tall in the backline too with Gov back. He could always swing forward I guess?

Just feels rough on Silvagni - he's been great this year.
 
Silvagni 'disappointed' after axing for Blues' must-win game - Silvagni 'disappointed' after axing for Blues' must-win game

Boy, would really sting for a guy like JSOS who's been around since the start of the rebuild to miss out on finals due to being squeezed out of the team when we finally make it... after all these down years.

Any player would be disappointed losing their spot this time of the year after playing all season

For me, is that player ranked 15-25, but top dozen come finals footy
 
I am unsure how I feel about Silvagni being dropped, are we too tall with the below rolling through? Think we had this first few rounds didn't we?

Pittonet
TDK
McKay
Curnow
Silvagni

We clearly can't continue with Silvagni rucking, so TDK and Pitt are locks. So are McKay and Curnow. Question remains whether we can have SOS in there too.

Notable that we are tall in the backline too with Gov back. He could always swing forward I guess?

Just feels rough on Silvagni - he's been great this year.

We have 2 of the best KPF’s going around, a clear number 1 ruckman and an extremely young and talented forward/ruckman.

When all are available, it makes complete and logical sense that a third forward / emergency ruckman may be dropped because structurally and strategically, they may not fit into the side for a particular week.

A lot of favourites are missing games at the moment such as Dow, Stocker; this is the reality when you have depth and options.
 
I'm glad JSOS is getting a much needed rest.
This will be a good test, for who fits in to our best 22.
Competition for spots heating up, with Marchbank, Martin, Williams etc. on the sidelines.
JSOS will be back in next week. Take it to the bank.
 
Can't believe multiple news sources reporting that JSOS was dropped for 'experienced' ruckman Marc Pittonet. Bloke has played 38 games....
 

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Think Voss made it pretty clear about JSOS today...
His main role is the 3rd ruck/forward, in this role he is no doubt behind TDK...

Some here and in the media are being quite hysterical...
If his name wasn't Silvagni, and was say Plowman doubt many, if any would have blinked an eye...

As for him being out over Durdin, Owies and Motlop... They don't even play the same role...

With the 3 small forwards and 3 tall forwards in
they are going to bring some serious heat to opposition defenders if the ball hits the ground something JSOS doesn't offer...
 
Yeah I initially thought the same, then I thought if the idiot defenders all want to go up and leave him out the back 5 metres from an open goal then more power to him.

Oppo coaches must pull their hair out every time he does it.

Highlights the panic that sets in when a high ball comes into the hot spot with Charlie and Harry there.
He outsmarts them. It is really clever play. Early in games, and even early in quarters, he leads hard and/or flies in packs, marks it or goes very close, and really makes his opponent sweat. He plants the thought in their mind, that they have to go with him... and then, he quietly slips out the back.

But what's also impressive is just how often the balls finds him when he does stay down. We very rarely see the opposition taking an intercept mark with Curnow waiting out the back. He seems to be able to sum up very quickly whether an incoming ball is a "long" one that the opposition will struggle to punch forward, or a "short" one that he must contest for in the air, and his decision-making is excellent.
 

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What great crumbing did Motlop do last week? Which of his 5 handballs which lead to 0 score involvements was great crumbing?
Honey is out Managed. It's not because his game wasn't as good than in any aspect of forward craft than Motlop's.

Stamos to be fair I was at the game last week and Motlop seemed to be running at the right intensity out there he chased hard and put good pressure on. I agree he had minimal offensive output.
 
Think Voss made it pretty clear about JSOS today...
His main role is the 3rd ruck/forward, in this role he is no doubt behind TDK...

Some here and in the media are being quite hysterical...
If his name wasn't Silvagni, and was say Plowman doubt many, if any would have blinked an eye...

As for him being out over Durdin, Owies and Motlop... They don't even play the same role...

With the 3 small forwards and 3 tall forwards in
they are going to bring some serious heat to opposition defenders if the ball hits the ground something JSOS doesn't offer...
They better bring heat and they better create and kick goals … JSOS does all of this … looking forward to the mosquito fleet bringing it …
 
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