AFL is just a scam now. Every round there is something to donate to:
- ANZAC Appeal
- Good Friday
- Spud's Game
- Maddie's Game
- Indigenous Round
- Big Freeze
I swear there was a period of around 8 weeks in a row when they kept asking for donations every week
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AFL is just a scam now. Every round there is something to donate to:
I swear there was a period of around 8 weeks in a row when they kept asking for donations every week
Josh Jenkins' full statement on the Adelaide Crows' 2018 pre-season camp
What I am about to say - and what Eddie Betts has stated in his book - has been four years in the making.
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This was basically what Josh Jenkins was saying on SEN
"Yeah we lost and it was disappointing, but it was against a strong team that went on to form a dynasty, on their home ground in front of their fans. It was a let down, but it wasn't such a disaster that we needed to do all this insane brainwashing crap....."
I think you've gone a bit skew whiff with the 3rd to last one. I think it refers to what Eddie had said about him pulling the indigenous players from the program. And instead of canning the program altogether, the club agreed and ran it with just the crackas. Which is separating the list into colours, at least as far as that programme went.
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And Barrett wrote if Adelaide would have just apologised four years ago we wouldn’t be talking about this anymore. Yeah right… What’s Betts and Jenkins have revealed and corroborated this week is an absolute indictment on the club’s leadership, the AFL’s ‘independent’ ability in properly investigate their own and produce just consequences, and more than an apology is required. Most involved are still on charge of young men’s mental health on some level.
As has already been mentioned in this thread: AFL are sycophantic about their own image and have a least damaging options approach to justice.
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As has already been mentioned in this thread: AFL are sycophantic about their own image and have a least damaging options approach to justice.
'The club completely fell apart’: Shocking new details about 2018 camp
Former Crow Josh Jenkins has shared his experience of Adelaide's 2018 pre-season camp
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I recall that Tom Lynch actually fell (physically) ill on the camp and the camp organisers actively hindered efforts to get the club doctor to check on him.
So there's that.
This camp had nothing to with mindfulness, which actually can (and does) benefit a lot of people in this modern world of distractions.
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Hmm, looks like the media understated what happened not sensationalised or speculated. Here are some facts for you.
it just gets worse and worse yet you are hell bent is making out the press were just on a witch-hunt .
Josh Jenkins' full statement on the Adelaide Crows' 2018 pre-season camp
What I am about to say - and what Eddie Betts has stated in his book - has been four years in the making.
www.sen.com.au
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I stopped responding to you because you have misrepresented my point the entire time and continue to do so even in your latest post.Hmm, looks like the media understated what happened not sensationalised or speculated. Here are some facts for you.
it just gets worse and worse yet you are hell bent is making out the press were just on a witch-hunt .
Josh Jenkins' full statement on the Adelaide Crows' 2018 pre-season camp
What I am about to say - and what Eddie Betts has stated in his book - has been four years in the making.
It is better for both of us if we don't go further. Take it as a victory if that helps your ego.
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Just a question for the legally minded here, regardless of safeworkSA, the AFL and the AFLPA finding no fault surely this "camp" drives a bulldozer through the participants human rights? The club signed waivers FOR them? Surely there is a whole world of civil suits/class actions opening up now. That doctor's report could cost a lot of people a lot of money when it surfaces, destroy a lot of reputations. I mean why go to such great lengths to cover it all up.....Oh.
Putting yourself in the players shoes, you have to feel for them.
If you speak up you get demoted or don't get a game and eventually get pushed out. Your job and your livelihood if you speak up.
The people involved and the club need to be punished.
Glad the Pies didn't get Don Pyke, who the hell lets this rubbish go on.
If you speak up you get demoted or don't get a game and eventually get pushed out. Your job and your livelihood if you speak up.
The people involved and the club need to be punished.
Glad the Pies didn't get Don Pyke, who the hell lets this rubbish go on.
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No, just hope it helps in your limited understanding of what the effects were of this camp.
it is unbelievable that someone was more concerned about the reporting of it than the actual events of the camp And the effect it had on the players and club as a whole.
Your posts centred around the lack of quality of the journalism where the rest of the country were discussing the lack of concern for the players impacted by this camp.
You stopped responding because you did not have a leg to stand on.
Safework found no wrong doing.... It would be interesting what they were actually told. The AFLPA have stated they are hearing things for the first time, no reason to think that wouldn't also apply to Safework SA.
Take the revelation from Jenkins latest comments & Betts book about being promised what you are telling a counsellor would be kept private, to then have that yelled back at you in an abusive, demeaning nature in front of the entire playing group. Thats not only a gross breach of your privacy, its actually illegal.
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I also wonder about SafeworkSA remit to investigate these kind of events.
What powers/expertise do they have in this area of brain washing/abusive coercion?
Going to guess they are more geared towards checking scaffolding than cultural oppression, given the number of toxic workplaces out there.
Then there is the political pressure to finish all this up quickly and find no fault on anyone at SA INC.
Wait till the doctors report leaks.
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What needs to happen now is this:
At this year's AGM, all the members simultaneously stand akimbo and repeatedly thrust their pelvises toward Ricciutio and chant "* You" until he resigns.
At this year's AGM, all the members simultaneously stand akimbo and repeatedly thrust their pelvises toward Ricciutio and chant "* You" until he resigns.
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JJ said on SEN he has stayed quiet for so long so he didn't lose friendships that were important to him.
Guessing Pyke won't be applying for any of the vacant coaching positions now.
How must the Swans indigenous players feel?
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Only if said "counsellor" is a professional with professional registration and university qualifications. Not, Cert 3's & 4's plucked out of a Cornflakes box. These "counsellors" have no place delving into the psyche of the brain. It's downright dangerous, and, as we've seen, the effects are long lasting. They sidelined and disenfranchised Adelaide's Welfare Manager and Doctor for a reason - to silence dissenting voices.
Paul Marsh and Dangerfield don't look good from this. Both must resign.
AFLPA what a joke.
AFLPA what a joke.
Yeah the fact that they aren't actual professionals means they probably cannot be done for violating any professional codes. But does any of what they did potentially cross over into practising medicine without being a doctor - whatever the legal term for that is?
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Betts revealed on 360 on Tuesday that the AFL knew about what happened - he and other players told them so the book cannot be the first time they were hearing this (I actually don’t think Betts is lying, I don’t know anyone who does think that). The best case scenario for the AFL, PA, WSA, etc (which is terrible)- if they say anything at all specific - is that during their ‘investigations’ some of the playing group have directly contradicted others so without external corroborating evidence they could not establish negative findings.
This letter from the club’s medico Jenkins has referenced is a linchpin.
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Misrepresented yet again.
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That's the problem. The whole "mind-training" industry is completely unregulated. Alpha males fall for it continuously. Bloody corrupt if you ask me.
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Oh you poor victim.
Fancy getting called out for suggesting the press was the problem and not the club running the camp .
When are you going to share with us the medias speculation and sensationalism you alluded to???
How does it compare with the Betts and Jenkins version of what transpired????
