Traded Jason Horne-Francis [to Port Adelaide in multi-club trade]

[philthy05]

Are GWS looking to use picks 3, 12, 15, 18 and 19 purely for the draft? Or do they want to get some players in via trade?

Maybe we could upgrade pick 33 or 43 for one those later picks and offer up Byrne-Jones or Bonner?

We genuinely need to trade away a player for 2nd round. Can't see it happening another way.

Hayes, Drew, Bonner, DBJ, Farrell. DBJ with most value in that lot perhaps as an All-Australian and club BnF although he was off it best this year. I know he just resigned but yeah either him or Drew

In all seriousness North have actually done fine out of this deal. So have West Coast. GWS showed up, bent over and handed over the lube to make it work for everyone else, and I salute them for it.

Yeah I think north have done well. What more can you hope for to get for a player that wants out than a similar pick + a future 1st on top. That’s a good deal.

Also west coast, despite people knocking them to get out of pick 2 and the private school vic boys and into hewett territory , whose not far behind, if at all those vic boys plus get another pick. That’s good for them.

Ports given up a lot, but the fact we get future 2nds and 3rds back helps a lot,

In the end rozee butters jhf Bergman sinn to look forward too in our midfield.

I really rate that group of players as a future midfield. High end young talent there.

 

[perplexed]

8,15,18 = 3648 points
9,17,20(F2),28 = 4083 points

Pick 40 equivalent differential
That’s also basing F2 as start of 2nd round

Your draft picks are not magic beans. No matter how you trade and repackage them you can't get enough of them to afford JHF. You need to trade out a decent player. This was a case on day 1, it still is.

 

[PowerBaz]

Crows are not offering rachele and the crows dont have the currency to get it done.

He won’t go to the crows anyway…

 

[PowerBaz]

Your draft picks are not magic beans. No matter how you trade and repackage them you can't get enough of them to afford JHF. You need to trade out a decent player. This was a case on day 1, it still is.

He’ll get to Port. Nobody wants to leave Port, especially to North.

 

[Boak10]

Your draft picks are not magic beans. No matter how you trade and repackage them you can't get enough of them to afford JHF. You need to trade out a decent player. This was a case on day 1, it still is.

Brady Rawlings referencing offers from last year, the above effectively mirrors what was on the table from Richmond. Hindsight is 20/20 however given what we know now, if they could go back, NM take that deal every day of the week!

 

[bzparkes]

You really don't get it do you? There won't be a bidding war. Just like there is no bidding war for Izak Rankine. Horne-Francis wants nothing to do with the Adelaide Football Club. Next year, North will be trading with Port and Port only.

Lol, funny shit. If he's that desperate to get to SA, he'll go to Adelaide.

If he enters the PSD, Adelaide take him for free.

Looks like it's you guys that don't get it.

 

[Psicosis]

8,15,18 = 3648 points
9,17,20(F2),28 = 4083 points

Pick 40 equivalent differential
That’s also basing F2 as start of 2nd round

Oh ffs now we are using points

 

[bzparkes]

Oh ffs now we are using points

I think we know by now that Port supporters are delusional when it comes to trading.

-"Hey, here's 15 picks from 40-55, which equals your top 5 pick, because of the points yeah?!"

 

[Crowbling]

Rachele or the crows can gtfo also

You can keep your trailer trash.

 

[Psicosis]

Port are a 2nd rounder short, not as short as most North fans seem to think. 8, F1 and 33 is more than any trade since Judd and if North want more than that, JHF simply doesn’t get traded this year.

The second rounder they need access to next year is for Rioli effectively

You know I love your work Snuff man, so I’ll repeat myself just this once.

North won’t accept a deal if there isn’t a top 5 or quality player involved.

 

[Boak10]

Oh ffs now we are using points

Points were merely a reference to Richmonds 2021 offer.
Which in hindsight is taken every day of the week!

 

[George CantStandYa]

From a good source: Port deal has fallen through but JHF still wants to come home.

Crows are putting a deal together (will need to trade one of their young stars).

Amazed you haven’t posted this on your own board…..

 

[Boak10]

You know I love your work Snuff man, so I’ll repeat myself just this once.

North won’t accept a deal if there isn’t a top 5 or quality player involved.

Psicosis is the oracle people!
Please attach link…..

 

[perplexed]

Brady Rawlings referencing offers from last year, the above effectively mirrors what was on the table from Richmond. Hindsight is 20/20 however given what we know now, if they could go back, NM take that deal every day of the week!

We rejected the Richmond offer.

Also, if we wanted those picks traded with GWS as you have suggested we would do it ourselves. How does Port doing it prior to trading them to us make them more valuable?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

You know I love your work Snuff man, so I’ll repeat myself just this once.

North won’t accept a deal if there isn’t a top 5 or quality player involved.

If the big mega trade falls through (and seems like it probs does), I dont see how you get that. I get North fans want blood but JHF is a sunk cost at this point, if you can get 8, F1 and 33, I think they just take that and push on. I cant see you getting better than that next year and as a rebuilding team, you get the benefit of a year of development into pick 8 and 33 and not waste your time on a kid who is absolutely leaving next year. still the 2nd most expensive trade of all time if that happens.

 

[DocSholl]

You know I love your work Snuff man, so I’ll repeat myself just this once.

North won’t accept a deal if there isn’t a top 5 or quality player involved.

Would actually need to be a top four pick, as there is a clear top five and one is Ashcroft.

So if Port aren't going to give up a player they need to somehow get a first rounder off West Coast, GWS or Essendon.

 

[Psicosis]

The “untouchable” has been revealed…



Welcome to Arden street Lachie

 

[Psicosis]

If the big mega trade falls through (and seems like it probs does), I dont see how you get that. I get North fans want blood but JHF is a sunk cost at this point, if you can get 8, F1 and 33, I think they just take that and push on. I cant see you getting better than that next year and as a rebuilding team, you get the benefit of a year of development into pick 8 and 33 and not waste your time on a kid who is absolutely leaving next year. still the 2nd most expensive trade of all time if that happens.

Then he will see out the remainder of his contract.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

The “untouchable” has been revealed…

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Welcome to Arden street Lachie

Lachie Jones to me would be the perfect "tiebreaker" for Port to let go. Good player but limited ceiling, can be replaced.

 

[Boak10]

We rejected the Richmond offer.

Also, if we wanted those picks traded with GWS as you have suggested we would do it ourselves. How does Port doing it prior to trading them to us make them more valuable?

Yea rejected prior to having a disgruntled player who has had multiple issues across the year. As I said rewind the clock, that deal is accepted!

Also, probably tough to comprehend but Port currently own Ports F1 pick, so for GWS picks to be involved as I suggested, need Ports involvement.

It’s a lack of brain power causing issues on these boards. That’s not to say everyone has to agree, but at least comprehend what you are reading before blankly saying no and pointing out how stupid it is

 

[Schulzenfest]

The “untouchable” has been revealed…

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F***, how are we gonna get the picks to bring in Curtis too? Starting to think we might have to give up Jed McEntee as well as Bonner

 

[Boak10]

Lachie Jones to me would be the perfect "tiebreaker" for Port to let go. Good player but limited ceiling, can be replaced.

I actually think Lachie Jones has a very high ceiling, problem with Lachie I think is he also has a low floor.

He has the attributes to be a star, but could also amount to nothing.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Stronger draft next year.
Pick 8-12 + 33

For 15 and 18 is about right
Pick 9 is break even for GWS, stronger draft makes it slightly more, plus the fact going up the order always costs a slight premium

Small problem Port are likely to finish closer to the top 5-6 which makes the deal horrible. GWS would be silly to do it and are likely to be swapping with North for pick 1 anyway

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I actually think Lachie Jones has a very high ceiling, problem with Lachie I think is he also has a low floor.

He has the attributes to be a star, but could also amount to nothing.

Hadnt see anything that screams potential star (like a Rozee or Butters from pretty much day 1) but you'd know more than me.

 

[Boak10]

Hadnt see anything that screams potential star (like a Rozee or Butters from pretty much day 1) but you'd know more than me.

Explosive speed, great vertical, attacks the footy hard, long kick. Downside, his touch and decision making can be sub par at times.

 

[Boak10]

Small problem Port are likely to finish closer to the top 5-6 which makes the deal horrible. GWS would be silly to do it and are likely to be swapping with North for pick 1 anyway

You would have said Port were likely to finish top 4 in 2021.
Maybe even Collingwood bottom 4…

Additionally, North won’t trade pick 1 unless WCE are involved and they get 2 and 3