Preview Round 6, 2024: St Kilda v Western Bulldogs - Marvel Stadium, Thursday 18 April, 7.30pm AEST

[Hubnester]

Game Day - Round 6, 2024: St Kilda v Western Bulldogs - Marvel Stadium, Thursday 18 April, 7.30pm AEST

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[tomjoad]

And to not present them with "gift" turnovers as well.

We helped GWS rip us apart in the first half with way too many kicks that turned over the ball.


Some were just miskicks (over heads etc). But many were to stationary team mates (ie Wikies short pass) which just allowed GWS players to sprint in and intercept. Which was just dumb football. Unless a player is in vast space you cannot just kick it straight to him, you have to kick so he has to run to it.


If we do this again then we might help to get the Dogs on a roll, and if they get rolling they will be dangerous.

The part in bold...it just wrecks my head watching the team do this stupid s*hite time and time again.

It's just so amateur.

 

[stfan]

The part in bold...it just wrecks my head watching the team do this stupid s*hite time and time again.

It's just so amateur.

Yes, kicking to a stationary team mate when he can easily be intercepted is a pet hate of mine.
Even if the opposition does not mark it, they will spoil the ball and knock over the target in the process so they can then gather the ball.


My other pet hat is that too many of our players will often try and corral player rather than tackle him. All that happens the vast majority of time is the opponent gets time to dispose of the ball better. Whereas if we went to lay the tackle, the opponent at worst has to rush their disposal, and at best we either stop the ball or even better win a free kick.

 

[seasonedsainter]

Hope we have some track watchers to provide us with an update on King. Could Collard's lack of game time for Sandy be related to him being an emergency for AFL game rather than injury?

I think it's time to change your signature sir?

 

[Saintbloke]

The part in bold...it just wrecks my head watching the team do this stupid s*hite time and time again.

It's just so amateur.

That's why we have coaches, who are supposed to iron out those deficiencies.

 

[bergholt]

Hard to get confidence/momentum from there. Media bashing will be next level by round 7.

Doubt it, we’re not relevant enough to really be bashed and RTB scares the media.

 

[Desperate saint]

The part in bold...it just wrecks my head watching the team do this stupid s*hite time and time again.

It's just so amateur.

agree they are dinky little kicks of little value -Wilkies -Mitches just stupid

 

[pebblesofsand]

Have to win this or our chances of making the finals are pretty much gone.

Given our poor scoring record its a bad week to lose King especially against a higher scoring team like the Doggies.

No idea what changes they'll make but I'd be bringing back Howard and Jones and leaving Garcia as the sub.

 

[seasonedsainter]

That was some game wasn't it! Armitage with nearly 50 touches, Billings proving to us why we took him over Bont, Richo looking like a proud Dad at the end... and most of those Bulldogs players going on to win a Premiership the next year! Fmd...

Seriously though how much better is the commentary? Led by Sandy Roberts which makes a big difference, much smaller team, and content you can actually listen to, not just the non-stop cringe dished up today!

 

[Otiman]

Howard does not deserve to be rushed back, he needs to play in VFL first, especially after a long layoff and whilst Cordy is doing a good job currently. Battle, Cordy and Wilkie should be enough. All 3 of them can rebound and mark strongly.. Howard is a punch only and turnover merchant, do not want.

Howard played VFL last week, and there's no VFL game this week.

 

[stavro#4]

That was some game wasn't it! Armitage with nearly 50 touches, Billings proving to us why we took him over Bont, Richo looking like a proud Dad at the end... and most of those Bulldogs players going on to win a Premiership the next year! Fmd...

Seriously though how much better is the commentary? Led by Sandy Roberts which makes a big difference, much smaller team, and content you can actually listen to, not just the non-stop cringe dished up today!

All I was thinking was that the group of kids in that game never really got any better for us.

 

[botts]

Howard played VFL last week, and there's no VFL game this week.

Had 5 kicked on him

 

[FQFjt]

That was some game wasn't it! Armitage with nearly 50 touches, Billings proving to us why we took him over Bont, Richo looking like a proud Dad at the end... and most of those Bulldogs players going on to win a Premiership the next year! Fmd...

Seriously though how much better is the commentary? Led by Sandy Roberts which makes a big difference, much smaller team, and content you can actually listen to, not just the non-stop cringe dished up today!

A wild game, but I too could not help thinking throughout that despite the heroic comeback, that team was destined for a decade in the wilderness whereas the Dogs went on to win a flag the next year. And then in the corner, North is towelling up Richmond, only to think that that Richmond side too was about to go on to win 3 flags.

I suppose the message is, short term results are no guide to long term fortunes. (See also our brilliant wins against Geelong in 2022 and Richmond in 2017.)

 

[seasonedsainter]

All I was thinking was that the group of kids in that game never really got any better for us.

Pretty sure that was the official Billings high water mark.

 

[seasonedsainter]

A wild game, but I too could not help thinking throughout that despite the heroic comeback, that team was destined for a decade in the wilderness whereas the Dogs went on to win a flag the next year. And then in the corner, North is towelling up Richmond, only to think that that Richmond side too was about to go on to win 3 flags.

I suppose the message is, short term results are no guide to long term fortunes. (See also our brilliant wins against Geelong in 2022 and Richmond in 2017.)

That win of ours against Richmond in 2017 catapoulted them to the Premiership!

 

[seasonedsainter]

Had 5 kicked on him

Still managed to injure four Sandringham players.

 

[Off Stump 89]

Am I the only one who thinks Bevo should thumb his nose at media criticism and continue his big name ommisons and drop the Bont or start him as sub?

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[paddygunner]

I think it's time to change your signature sir?

no chance we need the TC name to live long in the memory

 

[saintmike65]

In a season thus far that’s been influenced by injury and suspension, it was great to see Dow, Henry and Wood all training yesterday…those 3 players, plus Webster will be important additions in the coming weeks.
The goal kicking was also better, under the watchful eye of David Wheaton.
Seriously good to watch Collard kick goals from the boundary for fun!

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Am I the only one who thinks Bevo should thumb his nose at media criticism and continue his big name ommisons and drop the Bont or start him as sub?

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He should yell in his face every day, and tell him that if he's not going to toe the line he'll swap him for Hunter Clark at the end of the year.

 

[FQFjt]

In a season thus far that’s been influenced by injury and suspension, it was great to see Dow, Henry and Wood all training yesterday…those 3 players, plus Webster will be important additions in the coming weeks.
The goal kicking was also better, under the watchful eye of David Wheaton.
Seriously fun to watch Collard kick goals from the boundary for fun!

I was wondering what happened to David Wheaton. Glad to hear he is still around - we need him more than ever.

 

[stavro#4]

Pretty sure that was the official Billings high water mark.

I actually think the Carlton 30 touch 5 goal game was better.


But so disappointing to see what he actually became now

 

[SaintsSeptember]

That was some game wasn't it! Armitage with nearly 50 touches, Billings proving to us why we took him over Bont, Richo looking like a proud Dad at the end... and most of those Bulldogs players going on to win a Premiership the next year! Fmd...

Seriously though how much better is the commentary? Led by Sandy Roberts which makes a big difference, much smaller team, and content you can actually listen to, not just the non-stop cringe dished up today!

We might have done a bit better if some of our players had more longevity.

Dave Armitage is still only 35, his draft was a couple of years after Selwood's i think.
His back problems in later years means that people don't remember how well he was tracking in his prime.

Jack Steven is still only 34.

Koby Stevens is only 32.

A midfield with Steele, Armitage, Steven, Stevens and Ross would go pretty well even if it was mostly on the slow side.

Retirements and poor drafting and trading meant that Richo was doomed.

 

[The Punter]

In 2017 three players in the competition played at least 22 games and averaged 23 disposals and a goal per game.

Dustin Martin, Patrick Dangerfield and Jack Billings

14

Jack Billings

Age

28

Ht

185cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

19.7

5star

K

11.7

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.3

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

4.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

.

 

[g_TRAIN]

In a season thus far that’s been influenced by injury and suspension, it was great to see Dow, Henry and Wood all training yesterday…those 3 players, plus Webster will be important additions in the coming weeks.
The goal kicking was also better, under the watchful eye of David Wheaton.
Seriously fun to watch Collard kick goals from the boundary for fun!

Those goals he kicks on the boundary from 50m snaps.

Only 1 or 2 guys in the AFL that are doing that s**t... Insane

 

[The Punter]

We might have done a bit better if some of our players had more longevity.

Dave Armitage is still only 35, his draft was a couple of years after Selwood's i think.
His back problems in later years means that people don't remember how well he was tracking in his prime.

Jack Steven is still only 34.

Koby Stevens is only 32.

A midfield with Steele, Armitage, Steven, Stevens and Ross would go pretty well even if it was mostly on the slow side.

Retirements and poor drafting and trading meant that Richo was doomed.

Armo was the same draft as Selwood - 2006. Boak, Goldstein and Hawkins the last three active players from that draft.