Coach Carlton under Voss

[north_lad]

Stability is the buzzword being used by these mid table teams. Voss brings stability

You'd know I guess

 

[dazzledavey36]

One of the most bizarre coaching decisions going around watching Cripps in the ruck.

 

[Aura]

You'd know I guess

Reckon you’ll finally be back to that pack this year after 5 bottom 2 finishes in a row.



Don’t let me down

 

[Gavin Excell]

Never understood the hype around Voss as a coach and why they were so enthusiastic for him.

Did nothing coaching at Brisbane. Was like a slightly worse Brad Scott.

There's zero hype on Voss
He'd be regarded in the bottom half of current coaches and would have been for a while

 

[Gavin Excell]

One of the most bizarre coaching decisions going around watching Cripps in the ruck.

Could almost be a coach killer move

 

[Cyber_punk]

There's zero hype on Voss
He'd be regarded in the bottom half of current coaches and would have been for a while

There was from the media and the Carlton fans on here. You'd be forgiven for thinking they had signed Chris Scott/Clarko/Hardwick. Just bizarre.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

They looked like a training outfit out there, it was pre-season intensity.

The midfield is as bland as it gets, a bunch of coasters who have no edge – not just in attributes, but attrition. second to the ball, easily shrugged off tackles, and constantly breaking down on half forward.

I always find the yearly 'this is their year!' hype to be nonsense, they are just not that good of a side and Cripps is not the heroic captain everyone would like him to be. McKay and Curnow are too soft and miss easy shots too often.

The fact the commentators were waiting for Docherty to come on and then when he did, Docherty giving them a serious edge and a rise says everything. you can't rely on some old bloke who has a ****ed body to be the injector.

Jack Silvagni coming in too ffs, he should have been delisted years ago.

I have come around a little on Silvagni… he is a very average player but he does have a crack. He worked his arse off to lift them in the last quarter last night.

“Having a crack” should just be a non-negotiable, but it’s not.

 

[KissKiss]

I have come around a little on Silvagni… he is a very average player but he does have a crack. He worked his arse off to lift them in the last quarter last night.

“Having a crack” should just be a non-negotiable, but it’s not.

Every team needs heart and soul guys who will just have a crack no matter what role is asked of them. Not sure you can that about many others at Carlton apart from Silvagni. Doesn't deserve the whipping boy status he gets

 

[JayJ20]

Carlton under Voss have been good for one financial year. From start of 2nd quarter in round 14 2023 to end of 1st quarter in round 17 2024.
They're wasting a talented top end with ridiculous list management decisions and an outdated gameplan.

The modern game requires plenty of good runners and pressure small forwards. Carlton still think only clearances and contested possessions with heavy reliance on their spine will win you the flag.

 

[Outtatym]

Tumultuous off-season? Did I miss something?

Slayers slug I guess.

Anyway, I love a good reactionary thread but it's one game. They will be alright.

 

[Mr.X]

But you also went through the 'process' with Bolton and it didn't work out.

These corporate buzzwords are a waste of time

Blues need to Just play contested footy, and stop trying to be fancy

Last nights effort was embarrassing

 

[Gavin Excell]

I have come around a little on Silvagni… he is a very average player but he does have a crack. He worked his arse off to lift them in the last quarter last night.

“Having a crack” should just be a non-negotiable, but it’s not.

Agree

 

[Blackhawk42]

Tumultuous off-season? Did I miss something?

Newman injury
Jagga injury
Curnow ongoing injury
Elijah Hollands on the eve of the season
President's willy pic scandal

Maybe you did miss a fair bit???

 

[Anja_Nees]

Newman injury
Jagga injury
Curnow ongoing injury
Elijah Hollands on the eve of the season
President's willy pic scandal

Maybe you did miss a fair bit???

Injuries are par for the course right now but the pres getting sacked over a dick pic is hard to miss.

 

[Chief]

Injuries are par for the course right now but the pres getting sacked over a dick pic is hard to miss.

Ancient history now.

 

[fake tyrone]

He wasn't the only one.
As a team last night they seemed to play selfish football.

Look at Oscar McInerney last year at the Grand final and see how happy he was for Darcy Fort. Who at Carlton would be that happy for a teammate if they missed out on personal glory?

Was it Cottrell who shot for goal with a banana in the pocket when he could have squared it to loose teammates directly in front of the big sticks late in the 4th?

Deadset could have changed the outcome of the game if he dished it off for the goal assist instead of going for it himself.

 

[fake tyrone]

I have come around a little on Silvagni… he is a very average player but he does have a crack. He worked his arse off to lift them in the last quarter last night.

“Having a crack” should just be a non-negotiable, but it’s not.

JSOS one of the few who truly lifted for them late. Has limited talent at the AFL level but has carved out a career putting in a shift wherever he gets told to play. He can hold his head a little higher than many of his teammates.

 

[L_W_P]

It's interesting, but I'm not sure that's always true. Leigh Matthews and Malcolm Blight were good coaches.

Absolutely but they seem exceptions to the rule.

Clarkson, Hardwick and Chris Scott were hardly superstars. Longmire was very good but who had even heard of Ross Lyon? Bevo and Hinkley are polarizing but both long term coaches that weren't star players. Chris Fagan never even played at the top level.

And yet, these are the names that are talked up as top level coaches in the modern game.

Voss, Hird and Buckley have all failed.

Rob Harvey can't get past the interview stage.

Most other stars go into the media rather than coaching.

 

[Mr.X]

I have come around a little on Silvagni… he is a very average player but he does have a crack. He worked his arse off to lift them in the last quarter last night.

“Having a crack” should just be a non-negotiable, but it’s not.

JSOS appeared to be the only player who was really trying for Carlton

The rest appeared to “expect” they would win.

They were humbled, and hopefully they learn that hard work and effort is required to be great.

 

[PP34]

There was from the media and the Carlton fans on here. You'd be forgiven for thinking they had signed Chris Scott/Clarko/Hardwick. Just bizarre.

Rubbish.

Plenty of fans were willing to give him a chance after his failed stint at Brisbane.

But nobody was saying we had signed some genius coach. That’s just flat out laughable to imply that.

 

[nut]

Has anyone checked in on Robbie Williams?

 

[gungho]

Vossy is probably a pretty good coach but they don't have the list. It's been said multiple times but their top 6 is excellent (maybe the best top 6 players in the league) but their depth is seriously lacking.
This hurts on 2 fronts: it there are any injuries to their top 6 they are screwed, and also footy is played on a big field with 18 players, obviously.
- They are maybe a bit unlucky that guys they thought were going to be gun recruits, like Cerra, Williams, McGovern, are just decent AFL players without being stars.

 

[rye]

Absolutely but they seem exceptions to the rule.

Clarkson, Hardwick and Chris Scott were hardly superstars. Longmire was very good but who had even heard of Ross Lyon? Bevo and Hinkley are polarizing but both long term coaches that weren't star players. Chris Fagan never even played at the top level.

And yet, these are the names that are talked up as top level coaches in the modern game.

Voss, Hird and Buckley have all failed.

Rob Harvey can't get past the interview stage.

Most other stars go into the media rather than coaching.

Scott, Hardwick and Hinkley are all B&F winners and the latter two are All-Australians.

They don't have the accolades of Voss, Hird or Buckley but they were all very good players and had notably better playing careers than Clarkson or Lyon.

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[nut]

Vossy is probably a pretty good coach but they don't have the list. It's been said multiple times but their top 6 is excellent (maybe the best top 6 players in the league) but their depth is seriously lacking.
This hurts on 2 fronts: it there are any injuries to their top 6 they are screwed, and also footy is played on a big field with 18 players, obviously.
- They are maybe a bit unlucky that guys they thought were going to be gun recruits, like Cerra, Williams, McGovern, are just decent AFL players without being stars.

Who are the 6?

 

[Fadge]

Who are the 6?

Pretty clear top 6.

Cripps
Weitering
Curnow
TDK
Walsh
McKay