North will have a better 5 years than Collingwood.
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Recommitted Ed Richards [signs 5 year deal]
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Will be good to watch Ed line up alongside his soon-to-be teammates next week.
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He found it last year though, when he was first moved to the midfield around round 4.
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He’s already elevated his game and earned a pay rise. Why hasn’t he signed yet?
I'd love him at Richmond. Won't happen though.
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The longer the season goes the more he will be able to command.
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Not impossible. Maybe he could be enticed by a front-loaded contract before your youngsters need to get paid properly. He would be forgoing a couple of years of success during his prime age, though.
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If he thinks he can sustain or improve his output, perhaps. Big risk when he’s never done it before and he could also cop an injury. If he doesn’t cash in before Bont comes back, I’d be worried as a dogs supporter.
Going by what Cal Twomey said talks will pick up soon
while the Western Bulldogs are expected to soon pick up talks on Ed Richards' free agency contract.
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Yeah you can never be sure with injuries, but in terms of output, at the very least we're unlikely to get Bontempelli back for another 4 weeks, and only Treloar will be returning to the midfield in that time so he's got at least another month of clear air.
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That’s what I mean. If he can kick goals and collect 30 odd for the next month, he’s never going to get a better chance to sign a big contract, so I’d be worried if he wasn’t locked away by Bont’s return.
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That’s comforting.
Having signed Naughton, English and JUH to big contracts. Who do you have to sign this year? Bont, Richards and Libba to name 3. Does one slip through the cracks?
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Libba does one year contracts and I don’t think he has many more in front of him. Macrae, Daniel, and Smith leaving put us in a good position cap space wise.
Initially I was going to agree with you but then I thought about it a bit more. You probably gave the Smith money plus more to Naughton, English and JUH, you also recruited Kennedy who would probably get 600K. So there is a bit of cash gone. Also Bont can probably get a little extra, maybe 200k. Richards would get a big rise maybe an extra 500k at the Dogs or more at other clubs. Libba is probably about the same maybe a little less. Then I saw that Darcy has a new contract. I assume it's at least an extra 500K more a season. Maybe more. Gone up from 150K to at least 650k maybe more.
I get why you traded Macrae, Daniels and let Smith go. I think the cap still might be tight at the end of the season.
Your math isn't good if you think we trade out 2 million a year in cap space (without needing to considering we had an offer on the table for Smith and the others were contracted) and somehow have cap issues.
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Maybe my maths is bad.
Naughton plus 350K on previous contract
Kennedy plus 600K
JUH plus 300K on previous contract
Darcy plus 500K on previous contract
English plus 350K on previous contract
There's your 2 million plus a little.
There's are estimates. Who knows what else is going on?
Treloar from 650K to ?
Bont from 900K to ?
Richards from 500K to ?
Lippa from 650k to ?
I'm not saying that what I have written is the case. But you may have already spent that 2 million plus some. What is there for Richards and Bont?
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You’re assuming that money wasn’t already allocated to those players. For every pay rise, there’s a veteran who retires, or overpaid journeyman who gets delisted, or front loaded contract that comes down.
Daniel and Macrae had existing contracts which would’ve already been budgeted for. Replacing Macrae with Kennedy saves $300k at a minimum. Replacing Daniel with the draftee Dolan likely saves $600k+. Smith leaving meant his money covered a bunch of increases for other players, and the club would have already planned ahead for JUH and English since it was obvious both would command large contracts.
Bont would be on less money (at least proportional to the cap) on his next contract. He's already had the big one.
More than anything else, the fact Daniel and Macrae left should alleviate any concerns about affording the perhaps larger than expected pay increases for Richards and Darcy.
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Kennedy would be on less than 600k.
And liberatore and treloar will go onto lower $ as they are old.
Daniels and Macrae were both on good money around 700K. But you ain't getting Kennedy across for less than 500k in this era. So Kennedy for Macrae is about a 200K saving in my book. Agree with your Daniel for draft pick is saving about 600K. Let's say Smith was on a big contract from the previous era. He was young so lets say 500K.
So that's 1.35 million which would be eaten by English, JUH, Darcy and Naughton. That's 340K each. I think that conservative.
Bont would get a pay rise (mostly just staying with the cap). He is still considered a top 3 in the league player and at 29ish would still get at least 3 years of good pay. Treloar was on 900K (250k payed by Collingwood). He just had an AA season. I think he would at least command 700K maybe 750K which is a pay cut but not for the Dogs because they were paying 650K.
There are a lot of other variables so people like you and me dont really know, but I feel that the money saved from losing Smith, Macrae and Daniels has been eaten up by Naughton, Kennedy, English and Darcy plus some.
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I think you’re forgetting a few things. Players like Naughton and English likely had their boost (and even the boost figures are a little OTT) from departing players like Dunkley, Bruce, a hefty paycut from Johannisens post norm smith contract etc.
