Autopsy 2025 Rd 8 50-110 Adelaide holiday ends on sour note

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

I tipped Crows, but we're better without Walsh (gone backwards since his Ayres medal).
Harry plays better when he takes more ruck contests.
Doc is not up to it right now.
Young is tall... that's about it.
Hewett is our best player this year.
Lord and Carroll are the only ones who lower their eyes (not quite the only ones, but seems like it).
Gov is horrible at taking kick ins.
Charlie does NOTHING defensively.

When we work hard and play for each other, we're one of the best teams in the league. When we don't, we're one of the worst and at the moment, we don't more than we do.

Gonna be tough to scrape into finals from here. It's a log jam from 3rd to 14th and could be tough to gain ground.

 

[Braddles70]

Had some of his poor moments & defending today IMO.
Think he gave SW a bake in the last Q after a contest/set up.

He did. I was on the boundary and saw him dish it out as he failed to contest a mark in defence. Then SW got the ball shortly after near the defensive goal rushed a kick blind to no one and led to a goal to Adelaide.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

We built over last three weeks against weaker opposition and we had some hope. Sadly it was a false dawn.

Efforts like today should never been tolerated but they are and have been for too long. Poor standards, poor culture and constant mediocrity are still a major disease within our club

We aren’t that good and changes need to be made.

…are we at time to pull off the band-aid time again???

Whose fault is it now….

 

[Skull Face]

Gave them a huge pat on the back for the turn around that led to last weeks win over the cats, turned the game off at quarter time today knowing what was going to happen. If our pressure is down at all you can write us off, frightens me they can have such a off week after just 1 win against a decent opponent in our last 15 or so games.

I am leaning firmly towards cutting the list and coaches hard at years end, we need a huge injection of something fresh to try and achieve something with this list now before were back trying to rebuild from the ground up.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

I tipped Crows, but we're better without Walsh (gone backwards since his Ayres medal).
Harry plays better when he takes more ruck contests.
Doc is not up to it right now.
Young is tall... that's about it.
Hewett is our best player this year.
Lord and Carroll are the only ones who lower their eyes (not quite the only ones, but seems like it).
Gov is horrible at taking kick ins.
Charlie does NOTHING defensively.

When we work hard and play for each other, we're one of the best teams in the league. When we don't, we're one of the worst and at the moment, we don't more than we do.

Gonna be tough to scrape into finals from here. It's a log jam from 3rd to 14th and could be tough to gain ground.

Scraping into finals with an aging list is not where we should be right now.

Sure, anything can happen if you make it... but let's be real, with this mob, there's no miracle.

I'm expecting massive changes this off season... I'm talking trading out some of our "stars" for picks this year + next.

 

[agro]

The difference between our best and worst is too great - performances like today’s shouldn’t only not be tolerated but they just shouldn’t happen.

Geelong had a an off night last week but we only beat them by three goals - if we had an off night against Adelaide we should only lose by three goals not by ten.

 

[macky99]

We built over last three weeks against weaker opposition and we had some hope. Sadly it was a false dawn.

Efforts like today should never been tolerated but they are and have been for too long. Poor standards, poor culture and constant mediocrity are still a major disease within our club

We aren’t that good and changes need to be made.

Absolutely spot on Soapy, until we get a team that is willing to turn up with consistent effort we are stuck in the middle of the ladder.
I feel based on the age profile of our list we are not seriously in contention and need to refresh the list and review other areas to provide fresh hope.

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

Might I just pop in and ask where those posters are who were back slapping after last week’s win and mocking supporters who question our coaching and system?

Can they explain such a performance?

 

[2blue4u]

Why would we not bring effort to this game?

They should be on a high as we’ve won last 3 games.

Along with player effort the game plan doesn't stack up against teams who like to run and carry. Speed kills us every time. Our game plan solely relies on winning the ball in the ruck contests and when that fails the whole game plan fails. Voss backs his system in but has no idea what to do when it doesn't work.

 

[Soapy V]

Absolutely spot on Soapy, until we get a team that is willing to turn up with consistent effort we are stuck in the middle of the ladder.
I feel based on the age profile of our list we are not seriously in contention and need to refresh the list and review other areas to provide fresh hope.

I have said it for years. It’s a cultural issue across the whole club. Mediocrity is accepted and until it changes we will not be successful. Simple

 

[branedotorg]

Might I just pop in and ask where those posters are who were back slapping after last week’s win and mocking supporters who question our coaching and system?

Can they explain such a performance?

We are all hurting, no need for this

 

[rigpig064]

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Players weren't great but tactically that was very poor. No plan B if plan A doesn't work. Just allowed Crows players to consistently run around on their own. The game plan was just nonexistent.

Tell us what is plan B..how would you execute plan B

 

[TENACIOUS]

Feel sorry for the whole baggers family.

For many a year we take a step forward, then two steps backwards.

Keep your chins up…

 

[Wickzki]

I'll admit that I haven't read all 7 pages of this thread so if I've missed something I apologize.

There was a break, maybe quarter time or three quarter time when the players were talking to the line coaches and Vossy pulled them right away from the line coaches.

It was brought up by the commentary team.

Nothing to see here or more Voss Vs line coaches issues?

 

[Blue_Fusion]

I'll admit that I haven't read all 7 pages of this thread so if I've missed something I apologize.

There was a break, maybe quarter time or three quarter time when the players were talking to the line coaches and Vossy pulled them right away from the line coaches.

It was brought up by the commentary team.

Nothing to see here or more Voss Vs line coaches issues?

Voss could see they didn't turn up to play...

So he wanted to give them a rocket.

Unfortunately, the choir boys don't like being told off...

 

[2blue4u]

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Tell us what is plan B..how would you execute plan B

That's not my job to work out but they clearly didn't have one because nothing changed from the first quarter to the last. It wasn't just a loss it was a spanking. It was almost WCE level spanking.

 

[The Bighouse]

I'll admit that I haven't read all 7 pages of this thread so if I've missed something I apologize.

There was a break, maybe quarter time or three quarter time when the players were talking to the line coaches and Vossy pulled them right away from the line coaches.

It was brought up by the commentary team.

Nothing to see here or more Voss Vs line coaches issues?

Nothing to see.
Poor efforts being brought to attention..lift!

 

[The Bighouse]

That's not my job to work out but they clearly didn't have one because nothing changed from the first quarter to the last. It wasn't just a loss it was a spanking. It was almost WCE level spanking.

We were still in it until H’s ballsup kick into fwd50 to Adelaide defenders & then got opened up.
Too many red-time goals.
Getting smashed in the ruck & midfield didn’t help. Defence has been holding up well but some weak moments (again).

 

[Coops93]

Acres is in dropping territory now. Has escaped most criticism, but he's been horrible this year.

 

[carlton_99]

We built over last three weeks against weaker opposition and we had some hope. Sadly it was a false dawn.

As Geelong showed tonight they are far from "weaker opposition". The competition is so tight if you are off you get punished. We didn't show up tonight and it's a consistent trend now against the Crows who seem to have our number. Doesn't take anything away from the win last week against a very strong side.

 

[luke livingston seagull]

Acres is in dropping territory now. Has escaped most criticism, but he's been horrible this year.

Drop him. Ollie to the wing. Give Billy Wilson a run off half back.

 

[Prem17]

Thankfully work intervened and I wasn't able to watch it live in its entirety.
Watched bits n pieces live on Kayo though. Didn't watch the replay.

Buzz would be rolling in his grave.
The difference between our best and worst is disgraceful.

Senior heads need to roll but we all know that they won't.

 

[Christou2Kouta]

I’ve been fluctuating between keeping TDK or not but today just outlined that he NEEDS to go was monstered by a hack of a ruckman.We desperately need that pick he ain’t worth anything near 1.7

Very very poor.

Richmond set up their dynasty around resilient players who reliably delivered a minimum 8/10 performance in Rance, Martin, Cotchin and Riewoldt. You can’t be paying $1.7m to a ruckman who costs you goals by dropping chest marks. I love TDK but you can’t destroy your salary cap on one player.

 

[blues4flag]

Lost it in the midfield and picked it straight away.

Crows fought us in the contest, sucked all out players into congestion then had 2-3 players free of the defensive side of the contest.

We'd fight it forward through the stoppages, they'd pick it off and sling shot and score. Repeat.

Game was over at QTR time.

Repeat of last year. Midfield was smashed but where were our half forwards? Why weren't they pushing up to put pressure on the Crows players defensive side?

Adelaide choked the corridor every time we had the footy. But for a few glaring exceptions, we obliged and kicked long down the line, into the waiting arms of yet another intercepting Crows defender.

We had no winners, no answers anywhere on the ground.

 

[thechamps2025]

Okay.

We have played at Adelaide oval 10 times, and have won three games; once against Fremantle, twice against Port. We have never beaten Adelaide over there, and - as you saw - we don't play well there; we average 68.9 points there, while our opposition averages 101.6. In Adelaide this year, ours is surprisingly enough the second least Adelaide has scored at home, with only Geelong keeping them below 110. This - you would think - would point to the problem not being defensive but offensive, and so it bears out: the only team to kick worse than us against them was GWS, and that game was an abberation from both sides due to a monstrous wind wreaking havoc on the disposal of both sides.

So, for context's sake, this falls more or less smack bang in both where we've struggled this year and how we lose in Adelaide to Adelaide. At no point could we put scoreboard pressure on them, and at no point could we adequately prevent them scoring, which is how teams lose to Adelaide; you either bring them to a halt, or you lose to them.

Having said all that...

The match committee's hands were tied at selection, both by injury and list management. Over the last two seasons, we have traded out the entirety of our midfield and KPP depth in order to attempt a list redevelopment; blooding Carroll, Camporeale, White and consistently getting games into Lord, Hollands, Moo and shifting SOS behind the ball to cover for the absolute lack of KPD prospects on the list other than Lewis - who is now being used as a bandaid, KPD/KPF/resting ruck - demonstrates that we're pretty ****ing thin if injuries strike. Kemp, Cotts, Williams, SOS out after being consistent presences hurts, badly; it required a rejigging of roles, because we simply didn't have the players to replace them.

So, match committee goes with known quantities, Young and Docherty plus a young trier in Moo. Throwing younger players straight in away from home against Adelaide is hardly setting them up to succeed, and where we needed prospects to be smashing the door down they simply weren't.

We're simply too thin, and we're still a bit inbetween a full list recontextualisation and contention.

Spot on observation. The coaching staff knew they were playing Adelaide in Adelaide Iwhen fixture came up in November last year. Adelaide is our trouble team. Seems that coaches plan a week out and hope for the best. No sense of let's try something different. No magnets moved in game. Saints another side we struggle with, coaching team has no clue