Media Here's Bob With The Weather

[Tonga Bob]

"Today a young man on acid realised that the simulator is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as losing, qooty is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.

Here's Bob with the weather..."​

Thanks Bill.

Yesterday as I was getting ready to play the Gumbies up in their house I noticed the cloudy conditions outside and thought to myself "haven't seen much of that around this season". That got me thinking about the great meteorologists from Sweet and how they used to tell us about the weather conditions around the place, in particular my old friend and fellow Smurf Agent93. So to fill the gap of weather reporting in recent times I've donned the bag of fruit, thrown some weather icons all over a map and have had a butcher's at what Huey's dished up in season 39 after round 13 when all teams have had one bye each. This is what I found...



I consulted the head honcho at the Bureau of Mobbeorology who confirmed that there are five different weather conditions in Sweet - Cloudy, Fine, Warm, Rainy and Muddy, with Cloudy being the most favourable for playing qooty and muddy the least favourable. So I assigned appropriate weightings to each weather condition to come up with a Weather Ranking, which you can see above.

The key takeaways from this are:

• The Old Boys have had by far the most favourable weather conditions in the league, with pretty much twice as many cloudy days as the next best team and zero games played in rainy or muddy conditions,
• The Hawks are the next most favoured team, with only one game played in wet weather,
• The Dragons & Bears combined have had one game with either of the two most favourable conditions, though the Dragons get more warm days than any other team apart from the Demons),
• The rain in Sweet falls mainly in the South with the Swamprats, Wonders, Warriors & Bears having the most rainy days,
• There's drainage issues at Abu Grahib, the Snow Dome & the Stadium in the Sky, as any precipitation there turns muddy more often.

What does that mean for qooty results? Well it's a mixed bag really. In working out the correlation between weather and ladder positions, there's three distinct cohorts - those teams that have a strong positive correlation between weather conditions and qooty results (those with a ladder differential of 3 or under), those that have a weak correlation (ladder differential between 4 & 8) and those that have a strong negative correlation (ladder differential of 9 and above). Here's the skinny on that:



Two thirds of the clubs have a strong positive correlation between weather conditions and qooty results, which shows that weather does indeed affect how teams fare. The counterargument to this though are the outliers, being the three teams who have a strong negative correlation. Coincidentally it's three teams that sat on either the top or the bottom of the ladder after round 13. The Bears have received the worst of the weather yet sit on top of the ladder, while the Old Boys & the Hawks have received the best of the weather yet are in the bottom three of the ladder. [NB: the Demons exception can be attributed to unique high altitude conditions]

What conclusions can we draw from this? Are the Bears perfectly suited for wet weather qooty? Do the OOFs & the Hawks suffer from sunstroke, along with the Demons who had the equal most warm days? What we can say though is that weather affects qooty, both from a team perspective and individually, as the lists of highest DT points & disposal havers are dominated by teams with a higher weather ranking.

I'll provide a further update at the end of the home and away season, but for now it's back to AnUltimateRessie with the latest election coverage.​

 

[T2B_]

Good thread, Bob, though I think you might get more beez votes if you let Jane Bunn host the show

 

[sportsmaniac89]

Good thread, Bob, though I think you might get more beez votes if you let Jane Bunn host the show

In fairness, while Jane Bunn is easy on the eye, she is no Yanet Garcia

 

[serial_thrilla]

"Today a young man on acid realised that the simulator is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as losing, qooty is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.

Here's Bob with the weather..."​

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Thanks Bill.

Yesterday as I was getting ready to play the Gumbies up in their house I noticed the cloudy conditions outside and thought to myself "haven't seen much of that around this season". That got me thinking about the great meteorologists from Sweet and how they used to tell us about the weather conditions around the place, in particular my old friend and fellow Smurf Agent93. So to fill the gap of weather reporting in recent times I've donned the bag of fruit, thrown some weather icons all over a map and have had a butcher's at what Huey's dished up in season 39 after round 13 when all teams have had one bye each. This is what I found...

View attachment 2305701

I consulted the head honcho at the Bureau of Mobbeorology who confirmed that there are five different weather conditions in Sweet - Cloudy, Fine, Warm, Rainy and Muddy, with Cloudy being the most favourable for playing qooty and muddy the least favourable. So I assigned appropriate weightings to each weather condition to come up with a Weather Ranking, which you can see above.

The key takeaways from this are:

• The Old Boys have had by far the most favourable weather conditions in the league, with pretty much twice as many cloudy days as the next best team and zero games played in rainy or muddy conditions,
• The Hawks are the next most favoured team, with only one game played in wet weather,
• The Dragons & Bears combined have had one game with either of the two most favourable conditions, though the Dragons get more warm days than any other team apart from the Demons),
• The rain in Sweet falls mainly in the South with the Swamprats, Wonders, Warriors & Bears having the most rainy days,
• There's drainage issues at Abu Grahib, the Snow Dome & the Stadium in the Sky, as any precipitation there turns muddy more often.

What does that mean for qooty results? Well it's a mixed bag really. In working out the correlation between weather and ladder positions, there's three distinct cohorts - those teams that have a strong positive correlation between weather conditions and qooty results (those with a ladder differential of 3 or under), those that have a weak correlation (ladder differential between 4 & 8) and those that have a strong negative correlation (ladder differential of 9 and above). Here's the skinny on that:

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Two thirds of the clubs have a strong positive correlation between weather conditions and qooty results, which shows that weather does indeed affect how teams fare. The counterargument to this though are the outliers, being the three teams who have a strong negative correlation. Coincidentally it's three teams that sat on either the top or the bottom of the ladder after round 13. The Bears have received the worst of the weather yet sit on top of the ladder, while the Old Boys & the Hawks have received the best of the weather yet are in the bottom three of the ladder. [NB: the Demons exception can be attributed to unique high altitude conditions]

What conclusions can we draw from this? Are the Bears perfectly suited for wet weather qooty? Do the OOFs & the Hawks suffer from sunstroke, along with the Demons who had the equal most warm days? What we can say though is that weather affects qooty, both from a team perspective and individually, as the lists of highest DT points & disposal havers are dominated by teams with a higher weather ranking.

I'll provide a further update at the end of the home and away season, but for now it's back to AnUltimateRessie with the latest election coverage.​

No All-SFA spots for the Bears this season then. RIP.

 

[Tonga Bob]

Good thread, Bob, though I think you might get more beez votes if you let Jane Bunn host the show

This is more my style.

 

[Pugsley]

In fairness, while Jane Bunn is easy on the eye, she is no Yanet Garcia

 

[AnUltimateRessie]

"Today a young man on acid realised that the simulator is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as losing, qooty is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.

Here's Bob with the weather..."​

View attachment 2305662

Thanks Bill.

Yesterday as I was getting ready to play the Gumbies up in their house I noticed the cloudy conditions outside and thought to myself "haven't seen much of that around this season". That got me thinking about the great meteorologists from Sweet and how they used to tell us about the weather conditions around the place, in particular my old friend and fellow Smurf Agent93. So to fill the gap of weather reporting in recent times I've donned the bag of fruit, thrown some weather icons all over a map and have had a butcher's at what Huey's dished up in season 39 after round 13 when all teams have had one bye each. This is what I found...

View attachment 2305701

I consulted the head honcho at the Bureau of Mobbeorology who confirmed that there are five different weather conditions in Sweet - Cloudy, Fine, Warm, Rainy and Muddy, with Cloudy being the most favourable for playing qooty and muddy the least favourable. So I assigned appropriate weightings to each weather condition to come up with a Weather Ranking, which you can see above.

The key takeaways from this are:

• The Old Boys have had by far the most favourable weather conditions in the league, with pretty much twice as many cloudy days as the next best team and zero games played in rainy or muddy conditions,
• The Hawks are the next most favoured team, with only one game played in wet weather,
• The Dragons & Bears combined have had one game with either of the two most favourable conditions, though the Dragons get more warm days than any other team apart from the Demons),
• The rain in Sweet falls mainly in the South with the Swamprats, Wonders, Warriors & Bears having the most rainy days,
• There's drainage issues at Abu Grahib, the Snow Dome & the Stadium in the Sky, as any precipitation there turns muddy more often.

What does that mean for qooty results? Well it's a mixed bag really. In working out the correlation between weather and ladder positions, there's three distinct cohorts - those teams that have a strong positive correlation between weather conditions and qooty results (those with a ladder differential of 3 or under), those that have a weak correlation (ladder differential between 4 & 8) and those that have a strong negative correlation (ladder differential of 9 and above). Here's the skinny on that:

View attachment 2305739

Two thirds of the clubs have a strong positive correlation between weather conditions and qooty results, which shows that weather does indeed affect how teams fare. The counterargument to this though are the outliers, being the three teams who have a strong negative correlation. Coincidentally it's three teams that sat on either the top or the bottom of the ladder after round 13. The Bears have received the worst of the weather yet sit on top of the ladder, while the Old Boys & the Hawks have received the best of the weather yet are in the bottom three of the ladder. [NB: the Demons exception can be attributed to unique high altitude conditions]

What conclusions can we draw from this? Are the Bears perfectly suited for wet weather qooty? Do the OOFs & the Hawks suffer from sunstroke, along with the Demons who had the equal most warm days? What we can say though is that weather affects qooty, both from a team perspective and individually, as the lists of highest DT points & disposal havers are dominated by teams with a higher weather ranking.

I'll provide a further update at the end of the home and away season, but for now it's back to AnUltimateRessie with the latest election coverage.​

Great to see another addition to the Sweet Broadcasing Corporation

 

[Millky95]

No All-SFA spots for the Bears this season then. RIP.

We'll just take a flag instead

 

[Tonga Bob]

Now let's take this a bit further, and add another simulated variable to the mix - free kicks. Long time followers of my work will know that I have put together for years now a job of work around which teams more favourably looked after by the qumpires which, as of round 13 this season, looked like this:



When you combine these rankings to the weather rating found in the OP of this thread, you come up with what I call the Kissed on the Peen Index, or KPI for short. Let's see who's being kissed...



Looking at the KPI rankings, it's the East Siders who have been the most blessed in season 39 with second placings in both free kicks and weather. The Old Boys are a close second thanks to their dry weather and top five free kick placing while the Demons and Royals (if only it was their turn) not far behind.

The wet weather bestowed upon the Las Vegans is offset by the league's best free kick results, while the Bombers are almost the other way around. This hasn't stopped the Babylonians though from having one of the worst KPI rankings, with two points separating them from four other teams on the wrong end of the KPI scale - the Wonders, Warriors, Gumbies and Dragons.



Correlationally speaking, there are more teams centered around the mean which... well, means that half the teams have a weak correlation between their KPI and ladder position. Four of the clubs with a strong positive correlation between weather and qooty results also find themselves with a strong positive correlation between their KPI and qooty results, them being the Roys, Warriors, Swamprats & Wonders. These are the teams most cumulatively affected by these 'random' inputs into the simulator, either for good or for bad. Or for meh, idk.

On the other hand, the teams that have received the biggest cumulative leg up from these factors as indicated by their strong negative correlation between KPI & qooty results are the Demons, Hawks and Old Boys. The fact however that they are also the three teams at the bottom of the SFA ladder would indicate that benefits that they have been given do not translate to ultimate on field success. This means that the random inputs do not affect the fortunes of these teams, however as previously advertised you will no doubt find many players from these teams in the sim-based end-of-season awards. All these clubs have had premiership success in the past eight seasons though, as have the next two in the Dragons & Gumbies (with the equally-ranked Bears on track this season).

So maybe that's the trend for most clubs... recent team success is followed by a period of high individual success coupled with poor team performance? An exception to this (there's always an exception) is Coney Island in season 36 - minor premiers who had a Mobbs Medallist among four All-SFA selections. The ultimate success eluded them however, as it is the sim we're talking about after all.

So there you have the Kissed on the Peen Index. It really does make you think aye.​

 

[Gralin]

This is more my style.

this is more my style

 

[dogs105]

Hi Bob

 

[Tonga Bob]

Hi Bob

Evening Mr 105

 

[Pugsley]

 

[TRUMAN#1]

How long before this thread triggers me?

 

[Tonga Bob]

How long before this thread triggers me?

If you're not already triggered then I've done something wrong.

 

[Gralin]

How long before this thread triggers me?

I reckon it will take about a week to sink in, and then once you fully get it

 

[Tonga Bob]

Well as previously threatened, I'm back to report on how the weather fared for each club in season 39. Let's see who got the rub of the sky...



The key takeaways are:

The Old Boys went through the whole of the home and away season without playing in rainy or muddy conditions, and had 37.5% more cloudy days than the next best side, reaffirming their status as the SFA's nepo babies;

The Hawks were the next most favoured side with only one rainy day and no mud to speak of;

This equates to who had the highest individual stat counts for the season. Seven of the top ten disposal havers come from the teams that rank top three in weather ratings, and seven of the top ten Dream Team point accumulators come from the top five (shout out to AnUltimateRessie ClarkeM FootyGuy13 TRUMAN#1 & pantskyle for being the exceptions);

The Bears copped the worst of the weather, with the most rainy days and the equal worst muddy days to go with no cloudy days. The Old Boys must have poached them;

The Demons had the most warm days of any team and no rainy days, but two muddy matches and only three cloudy days saw them as one of the worst affected sides;

It was a logjam in the middle, with nine teams within two points of the average ranking;

Since the initial weather report the Warriors received three weeks in a row of cloudy weather, proving the old adage that the squeaky wheel gets the grease;

We had only three games this season with fine weather (which the Bombers had two of), and six games with muddy weather (again the Bombers had two of these, as did the Demons & Bears);

And five teams (Old Boys, Hawks, Gumbies, Demons and Dragons) all had at least 50% of games in warm weather.

Now when we take into account the free kick ladder we'll see what the Kissed on the Peen Index (KPI) is [SPOILER ALERT THAT ISN'T REALLY A SPOILER ALERT BECAUSE THE WINNERS WERE ANNOUNCED LAST WEEK: the below graphic contains the final Silver Whistle results]



Overall the two teams most favoured by the sim in elements other than scoring were the Hawks and the Old Boys. There's a shitton of daylight in third, with the rest of the teams in a huge clump. Shout out here to the Bombers who, despite having the equal worst KPI still managed to win the minor premiership. I dare say the higher than average weather rating helped here. The Bears were interesting here too, having the worst weather but the best free kick result.

So how can we equate this all to qooty results? The Hawks started 0-5 and finished in fifth, the Old Boys scraped into the finals in the last four minutes of their final match, the Furies were near the top of the ladder for most of the season and the Swamprats would have finished top if not for a clerical error. On the other side of the coin the Bombers, Dragons & Wonders all made finals despite having the worst KPI and the Roys & Demons were unable to convert favourable weather/qumpiring to on field success.

So despite expecting players from the favoured teams to do well in the Mobbs/All-SFA/SFACA awards, who bloody knows how this works from a team perspective?

That's the weather for season 39, back to you Ressie.​

 

[TRUMAN#1]

Well as previously threatened, I'm back to report on how the weather fared for each club in season 39. Let's see who got the rub of the sky...

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The key takeaways are:

The Old Boys went through the whole of the home and away season without playing in rainy or muddy conditions, and had 37.5% more cloudy days than the next best side, reaffirming their status as the SFA's nepo babies;

The Hawks were the next most favoured side with only one rainy day and no mud to speak of;

This equates to who had the highest individual stat counts for the season. Seven of the top ten disposal havers come from the teams that rank top three in weather ratings, and seven of the top ten Dream Team point accumulators come from the top five (shout out to AnUltimateRessie ClarkeM FootyGuy13 TRUMAN#1 & pantskyle for being the exceptions);

The Bears copped the worst of the weather, with the most rainy days and the equal worst muddy days to go with no cloudy days. The Old Boys must have poached them;

The Demons had the most warm days of any team and no rainy days, but two muddy matches and only three cloudy days saw them as one of the worst affected sides;

It was a logjam in the middle, with nine teams within two points of the average ranking;

Since the initial weather report the Warriors received three weeks in a row of cloudy weather, proving the old adage that the squeaky wheel gets the grease;

We had only three games this season with fine weather (which the Bombers had two of), and six games with muddy weather (again the Bombers had two of these, as did the Demons & Bears);

And five teams (Old Boys, Hawks, Gumbies, Demons and Dragons) all had at least 50% of games in warm weather.

Now when we take into account the free kick ladder we'll see what the Kissed on the Peen Index (KPI) is [SPOILER ALERT THAT ISN'T REALLY A SPOILER ALERT BECAUSE THE WINNERS WERE ANNOUNCED LAST WEEK: the below graphic contains the final Silver Whistle results]

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Overall the two teams most favoured by the sim in elements other than scoring were the Hawks and the Old Boys. There's a shitton of daylight in third, with the rest of the teams in a huge clump. Shout out here to the Bombers who, despite having the equal worst KPI still managed to win the minor premiership. I dare say the higher than average weather rating helped here. The Bears were interesting here too, having the worst weather but the best free kick result.

So how can we equate this all to qooty results? The Hawks started 0-5 and finished in fifth, the Old Boys scraped into the finals in the last four minutes of their final match, the Furies were near the top of the ladder for most of the season and the Swamprats would have finished top if not for a clerical error. On the other side of the coin the Bombers, Dragons & Wonders all made finals despite having the worst KPI and the Roys & Demons were unable to convert favourable weather/qumpiring to on field success.

So despite expecting players from the favoured teams to do well in the Mobbs/All-SFA/SFACA awards, who bloody knows how this works from a team perspective?

That's the weather for season 39, back to you Ressie.​

Can I plagiarise this to re-enforce my anti weather arguments?


This is brilliant analysis

 

[Tonga Bob]

Can I plagiarise this to re-enforce my anti weather arguments?


This is brilliant analysis

Mi weather analysis, su weather analysis

 

[Gralin]

Well as previously threatened, I'm back to report on how the weather fared for each club in season 39. Let's see who got the rub of the sky...

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The key takeaways are:

The Old Boys went through the whole of the home and away season without playing in rainy or muddy conditions, and had 37.5% more cloudy days than the next best side, reaffirming their status as the SFA's nepo babies;

The Hawks were the next most favoured side with only one rainy day and no mud to speak of;

This equates to who had the highest individual stat counts for the season. Seven of the top ten disposal havers come from the teams that rank top three in weather ratings, and seven of the top ten Dream Team point accumulators come from the top five (shout out to AnUltimateRessie ClarkeM FootyGuy13 TRUMAN#1 & pantskyle for being the exceptions);

The Bears copped the worst of the weather, with the most rainy days and the equal worst muddy days to go with no cloudy days. The Old Boys must have poached them;

The Demons had the most warm days of any team and no rainy days, but two muddy matches and only three cloudy days saw them as one of the worst affected sides;

It was a logjam in the middle, with nine teams within two points of the average ranking;

Since the initial weather report the Warriors received three weeks in a row of cloudy weather, proving the old adage that the squeaky wheel gets the grease;

We had only three games this season with fine weather (which the Bombers had two of), and six games with muddy weather (again the Bombers had two of these, as did the Demons & Bears);

And five teams (Old Boys, Hawks, Gumbies, Demons and Dragons) all had at least 50% of games in warm weather.

Now when we take into account the free kick ladder we'll see what the Kissed on the Peen Index (KPI) is [SPOILER ALERT THAT ISN'T REALLY A SPOILER ALERT BECAUSE THE WINNERS WERE ANNOUNCED LAST WEEK: the below graphic contains the final Silver Whistle results]

View attachment 2332261

Overall the two teams most favoured by the sim in elements other than scoring were the Hawks and the Old Boys. There's a shitton of daylight in third, with the rest of the teams in a huge clump. Shout out here to the Bombers who, despite having the equal worst KPI still managed to win the minor premiership. I dare say the higher than average weather rating helped here. The Bears were interesting here too, having the worst weather but the best free kick result.

So how can we equate this all to qooty results? The Hawks started 0-5 and finished in fifth, the Old Boys scraped into the finals in the last four minutes of their final match, the Furies were near the top of the ladder for most of the season and the Swamprats would have finished top if not for a clerical error. On the other side of the coin the Bombers, Dragons & Wonders all made finals despite having the worst KPI and the Roys & Demons were unable to convert favourable weather/qumpiring to on field success.

So despite expecting players from the favoured teams to do well in the Mobbs/All-SFA/SFACA awards, who bloody knows how this works from a team perspective?

That's the weather for season 39, back to you Ressie.​

Oh so you're calling us incompetent!

 

[Tonga Bob]

You thought I was done with this? Think again.

The prevailing theory that we've run with is that the better the weather you have in the season, the more your team will receive sim-based accolades. And now that the individual awards within the control of the sim have been awarded we have a chance to test that hypothesis. Let's begin with the All-SFA team.



The teams with the highest representation were the Hawks & Old Boys, each getting four players in the team. As the two teams with the highest weather ranking, this shows strong positive correlation. The next most represented teams are the Demons and the Furies with three players each. The Furies had the equal fifth highest weather rating which shows weak positive correlation, and the Demons had the equal third lowest rating (albeit only two points behind the Furies) which shows a weak negative correlation.

So what got so many Demons & Furies in the All-SFA team if they had mid-table weather ratings? Well there's other factors in play. The Demons had the most warm days of any team and only two games in wet weather so a season of 87.5% dry weather explains their inclusions. As for the Furies, they had a mixed bag - higher than average cloudy games and higher than average rainy games - which should limit their numbers in the All-SFA team. But they rigged the system by having 47 co-captains so that got them over the line. The other thing to note with both teams is that 4 of the 6 players were selected in the backline where stats aren't as much of a telling factor as the other lines.

The other question to ponder is how did the Roys and Gumbies only get one person combined in the All-SFA team when they were ranked third & fourth for weather (and the one Gumby pick was an inside job)? Perhaps their nominations were up against Old Boys and Hawks, maybe there was insufficient committee advocacy, or maybe their posting stats weren't at whatever minimum is currently set. Something to ponder in future seasons.

Taking a look now at the other awards, 7 of the top 10 in the Mobbs Medal were in the top 5 ranked teams weather wise. Finally we have the winner of both the Fred and the SFACA award from the Hawks who, as I mentioned earlier, was top two in weather ratings. All of these are further positive indicators that good weather gets individual awards.

Therefore in my esteemed opinion, the hypothesis is proved. What do you think?​

 

[TRUMAN#1]

I love it when someone can say what I have said all along, but way more eloquently than I ever could.

 

[Tonga Bob]

I love it when someone can say what I have said all along, but way more eloquently than I ever could.

Can you please introduce them to me??