Recommitted Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera - two year extension

[Enviable Tradition]

Oh ok well that’s it then ….all exemptions waived through cause it’s young talent coming in…..righto …missed the memo apologies !!

No problems. Glad to help you see how it actually works.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

We’ve still got another 12 months after this trade period in which we can make further trades for points and draft position in 2026. It’s really not that hard to understand so don’t know why it continues to be raised. We don’t have to have every pick in place this year if we get access to Cochrane for next year. We can make further trades.

So Pick 15 for Zak Butters?

You would be insane to go into 2026 in such a predicament. Bulldogs would destroy you in a trade

 

[Young Gun #6]

So Pick 15 for Zak Butters?

You would be insane to go into 2026 in such a predicament. Bulldogs would destroy you in a trade

He’s restricted. Same as Saints empty PSD threat we could match any and every bid a club could make on Butters.

If he badly wanted to leave a trade would then be done.

There’s no world where Butters leaves and Port cop a compensation pick and the club recruiting him gives up nothing.

 

[go_the_dockers]

It is interesting to think what Crows or Port can offer, and which one is better, especially with Tasmania coming in.

Port
2026 1st and 2027 1st round picks for NWM and 2026 2nd rounder pick
-- 2026 and 2027 - expect both picks to be bottom 8

Crows
2025, 2026 and 2027 1st round picks with a few later picks coming back with NWM. Think something like the Jeremy Cameron

5

Jeremy Cameron

Age

33

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

trade.

All picks expected to be in the 15-18 range before F/S, Academy and Tasmanian priority picks are considered.

Which lot of picks would you prefer?

 

[giantsully]

With all due respect to our SA colleagues, I suspect most in the AFL world hope he stays at St Kilda.

 

[phantom13]

I believe the AFL has to let an uncontracted player leave to the state he wants, and they would never want it tested in a court of law.

But hopefully you're right.

Weve circled back to the "court of law" bullshit.

Cool.

 

[phantom13]

He’s restricted. Same as Saints empty PSD threat we could match any and every bid a club could make on Butters.

If he badly wanted to leave a trade would then be done.

There’s no world where Butters leaves and Port cop a compensation pick and the club recruiting him gives up nothing.

Our empty PSD threat?

 

[Tasmanian saint]

You do realise there may be other players in 12 months time that request a trade or may be open to moving. We will be allowed to make trades in 2026 if need be…. We don’t have to have all those pieces locked into place 12 months in advance and clubs rarely do when it comes to matching points.

You do realise there may be other players in 12 months time that request a trade or may be open to moving. We will be allowed to make trades in 2026 if need be…. We don’t have to have all those pieces locked into place 12 months in advance and clubs rarely do when it comes to matching points.

If you don’t have a first you will need three picks in the twenties next year to match a bid on Cochran the only players capable of bringing that currency is butters or Bergman. you won’t have a first the following season so going into deficit is not really an option your second rounder will get chewed straight up and third rounders are basically worthless in points , this is not even taking into consideration future father sons bids or having to actually use three picks in the 26 and 27 drafts . To say port have planned poorly for the upcoming offseasons is the understatement of the century

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

If you don’t have a first you will need three picks in the twenties next year to match a bid on Cochran the only players capable of bringing that currency is butters or Bergman. you won’t have a first the following season so going into deficit is not really an option your second rounder will get chewed straight up and third rounders are basically worthless in points , this is not even taking into consideration future father sons bids or having to actually use three picks in the 26 and 27 drafts . To say port have planned poorly for the upcoming offseasons is the understatement of the century

Yeah it’s not going to be that difficult to find a trade for some picks in the 20s if that’s all we need to secure. It also doesn’t have to be 1 player to net us multiple picks. Heck for starters, we could just swap a 2027 second for a 2026 second with a team that’s prioritising that draft. Thanks for the concern but you can stop stressing over how we will make up the points if he’s confirmed.

 

[119others]

You make a few valid points here. At the same time, you also make a lot of assumptions. Specifically, presuming that all of Pilot, Salopek and Rodan will be first rounders in 27 months from now is the biggest. That is not to say it won't happen, but we have seen countless times when highly rated prospects at the ages of 15 and 16 flame out by the time they become draft eligible.

You're also making the assumption that Port won't trade anyone away for draft picks in the coming 3 off-seasons to help accumulate picks.

I'm not saying they can accomplish it all, but I'm not going to say at this point they can't either. There are too many variables in play to assume what may or may not happen in the next 3 off-seasons.

OF course lots of assumptions made. But the clear point is ASSUMING you sell your future firsts for NWM and ASSUMING Cochrane, Pilot, Salopek etc are indeed elite talents (as your posters seem to universally believe) then you can’t get them without SELLING other assets due to the revised points system coming in this year (makes using crappy picks after 30 much more difficult).

And that’s your problem, you don’t have many other assets. Besides your Big 5 (Rozee, Butters, JHF, Georgie and Berg) you don’t have any other player worth a first round pick. And I don’t know if you actually have any even worth a second round pick but happy for you to update me re this. Berry and Whitlock were taken late first round and mid second round but as soon as they start playing unless they show requisite quality their value starts to depreciate within a short space of time.

So what other assets (players) do you genuinely believe could get a first OR second round pick. And please keep it sane and not offer up Ollie Lord type suggestions (SPP and Marshall could well have been in this category but not going forward unfortunately with their respective injury histories)

 

[119others]

With the change to the points structure if you don’t have a first round pick yoand with no first the following season Theres no room for a big deficit . And also take into account that you actually need to make three Picks at each draft ,

Not sure Power fans are grasping the technicalities of trading / matching players under the new Draft Points Imdex. unfortunately for them the previous system of using crappy picks (30-50 to match first round bids,on players has effectively been wiped out. As it should have been to stop teams like Bullies getting a number one draft pick for like 4 picks from 37-47 IIRC)

 

[119others]

With the change to the points structure if you don’t have a first round pick yoand with no first the following season Theres no room for a big deficit . And also take into account that you actually need to make three Picks at each draft ,

Picks in the draft can include rookie upgrades obviously also. Likely for the 2026 and 2027 drafts Power will have to take picks at the very back end of the draft (50-70) where it’s very difficult impossible to get quality. And the problem is looking at their player list theres at least 15 players that could get sacked now before even the retirements if Atkins, Boak etc. Almost 20 players on this I don’t believe are decent AFL quality (includes first team strugglers like DBJ, Farrell, Burton etc)

Players numbered 22 onwards…..OUCH for the next 27 players there barely 5 that are decent AFL quality. Good,luck rebuilding this list with NO picks before 50 in the net t few drafts. Dark days

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[119others]

Yeah it’s not going to be that difficult to find a trade for some picks in the 20s if that’s all we need to secure. It also doesn’t have to be 1 player to net us multiple picks. Heck for starters, we could just swap a 2027 second for a 2026 second with a team that’s prioritising that draft. Thanks for the concern but you can stop stressing over how we will make up the points if he’s confirmed.

No you can’t re 2027. Clubs have already stated no one wants to be “long” that draft with massive Tassie concessions before teams start to pick as per normal. So nobody wants to be buying 2027 draft picks. It’s the exact opposite. Everyone wants to be selling 027 picks inc Port.

And what players will get you a first or second rounder? Keen to hear this

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

No you can’t re 2027. Clubs have already stated no one wants to be “long” that draft with massive Tassie concessions before teams start to pick as per normal. So nobody wants to be buying 2027 draft picks. It’s the exact opposite. Everyone wants to be selling 027 picks inc Port.

And what players will get you a first or second rounder? Keen to hear this

Ok cool, guess you know every clubs draft and trade strategies multiple years in advance. Guess those clubs with FS/NGAs in 2027 will just be ignoring them for a year. End thread there, the oracle has spoken.

It’s also been referenced that some of Tassies concessions will be early draft picks which they will be forced to trade. So there may actually be more available picks early up for grabs.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

He’s restricted. Same as Saints empty PSD threat we could match any and every bid a club could make on Butters.

If he badly wanted to leave a trade would then be done.

There’s no world where Butters leaves and Port cop a compensation pick and the club recruiting him gives up nothing.

If im Saints im offering 2.5 mill a year for Butters without blinking 1 eye about it. If Port wanna match it then LOL

 

[119others]

Ok cool, guess you know every clubs draft and trade strategies multiple years in advance. Guess those clubs with FS/NGAs in 2027 will just be ignoring them for a year. End thread there, the oracle has spoken.

It’s also been referenced that some of Tassies concessions will be early draft picks which they will be forced to trade. So there may actually be more available picks early up for grabs.

Not an oracle at all. Just a sensible, rational neutral footy fan analysing the situation using logic and deducing likely outcomes.

You avoided the question. Which Power players outside the top 5 are worth a first or second rounder? Or do you agree there is none?

 

[119others]

He’s restricted. Same as Saints empty PSD threat we could match any and every bid a club could make on Butters.

If he badly wanted to leave a trade would then be done.

There’s no world where Butters leaves and Port cop a compensation pick and the club recruiting him gives up nothing.

There is NO difference between Butters being out of contract next year and NWM being out of contract this year. You want to bend Saints over then any team can do the exact same thing to you next year with Butters.

And Karma can be a real b1tch. Imagine Saints having a top 1-2 pick next year and deliberately bidding on Cochrane to force you to pay up earlier than you wanted to. Start screwing teams over - as many on your board want to do - and it’s going to come back and bite you. Big time.

 

[stavro#4]

Not an oracle at all. Just a sensible, rational neutral footy fan analysing the situation using logic and deducing likely outcomes.

You avoided the question. Which Power players outside the top 5 are worth a first or second rounder? Or do you agree there is none?

Careful. You will enter the realms where there are genuine Port posters who will start telling you second round pick Whitlock is now worth a first

That along with the magic beans they have in future state are enough for Nas.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

OF course lots of assumptions made. But the clear point is ASSUMING you sell your future firsts for NWM and ASSUMING Cochrane, Pilot, Salopek etc are indeed elite talents (as your posters seem to universally believe) then you can’t get them without SELLING other assets due to the revised points system coming in this year (makes using crappy picks after 30 much more difficult).

Oh wow... its almost like in 2027 we'll have access to assets from 2028 and 2029... And considering that 2027 is such a worthless draft, being the Tasmanian one and all, it really going to be dificult to get clubs to give up 2027 picks for 2028 and 2029 options.

 

[Amacca 23]

Oh wow... its almost like in 2027 we'll have access to assets from 2028 and 2029... And considering that 2027 is such a worthless draft, being the Tasmanian one and all, it really going to be dificult to get clubs to give up 2027 picks for 2028 and 2029 options.

Lol so you are going to trade assets from 26,27,28and 29 good luck getting that past the afl

 

[stavro#4]

Oh wow... its almost like in 2027 we'll have access to assets from 2028 and 2029... And considering that 2027 is such a worthless draft, being the Tasmanian one and all, it really going to be dificult to get clubs to give up 2027 picks for 2028 and 2029 options.

Sorry, what?

You get 2 years in advanced. You can’t start trading 28 or 29 picks this year

 

[119others]

Oh wow... its almost like in 2027 we'll have access to assets from 2028 and 2029... And considering that 2027 is such a worthless draft, being the Tasmanian one and all, it really going to be dificult to get clubs to give up 2027 picks for 2028 and 2029 options.

2 more points you aren’t seemingly aware of:

(1) AFL rules dont allow you to carry too much of a deficit into future drafts. There’s some thresholds which you may want to check.

(2) What happens when you have bought a new house settling in 45 days time and you are struggling to sell your house needing to FUND your new purchase assuming 40 day settlement also. I will tell you what happens. You become a VERY DESPERATE seller and IF the buyer knows this they smell blood. What does the buyer do? They lowball you knowing you have very few other options and time is running out. You get SCREWED over.

With other clubs being fully aware of your situation, they sense your fear and LOWBALL the bejesus out of you.

Seriously good luck if that’s what your brain trust thinks is a valid strategy…

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Sorry, what?

You get 2 years in advanced. You can’t start trading 28 or 29 picks this year

Keep up, the discussion was about how we'd be paying for future father-son/NGA kids.

Lol so you are going to trade assets from 26,27,28and 29 good luck getting that past the afl

And using them to draft kids in 26 and 27... So why would the AFL consider stopping that? Including potentially getting multiple first round kids in 2027.

 

[Chewy316]

OF course lots of assumptions made. But the clear point is ASSUMING you sell your future firsts for NWM and ASSUMING Cochrane, Pilot, Salopek etc are indeed elite talents (as your posters seem to universally believe) then you can’t get them without SELLING other assets due to the revised points system coming in this year (makes using crappy picks after 30 much more difficult).

And that’s your problem, you don’t have many other assets. Besides your Big 5 (Rozee, Butters, JHF, Georgie and Berg) you don’t have any other player worth a first round pick. And I don’t know if you actually have any even worth a second round pick but happy for you to update me re this. Berry and Whitlock were taken late first round and mid second round but as soon as they start playing unless they show requisite quality their value starts to depreciate within a short space of time.

So what other assets (players) do you genuinely believe could get a first OR second round pick. And please keep it sane and not offer up Ollie Lord type suggestions (SPP and Marshall could well have been in this category but not going forward unfortunately with their respective injury histories)

Trying to project who might be worth what in terms of draft pick(s) value in up to 3 trade periods time is an exercise in absolute futility.

I'm not disputing the fact that they may need to trade a player or two (or three) out in the coming years to get the requisite points to satisfy certain NGA and F/S prospects. At the same time, the only one of note in the next 2 off-seasons they have to prepare for is Doug. If they acquire NWM this off-season, that makes things a bit messy in terms of making up points. However, if Butters should decide to leave in 12 months time, they'll make up the points without any issue at all. Bergman is off contract end of 2027 and given his strong ties to Victoria he's another one who is a current known quantity who would bring in at the very least, a first rounder and change. And there is always the possibility that a Houston type trade presents itself - had that idea been presented 18 months ago the majority of AFL talking heads would have considered it to be a preposterous idea. But it happened. So to try to predict what may or may not happen in 3 trade periods time is just bloody absurd - might be fun for you but that's where the fun ends! And that's before we consider the possibility of any of Port's young players establishing themselves as solid players with currency. We don't know it will happen, we don't know it won't happen either. It's speculation either way, which to me, getting into a debate over, is ridiculous.

There are so many unknowns surrounding the 27 draft and its makeup that it is even pointless speculating on the possibilities. And by the 27 draft there is always the possibility of going into deficit in 28 and/or using future picks in 28 and 29 to get picks in 27. Way too convoluted to know how it's going to play out or even speculate upon.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

With other clubs being fully aware of your situation, they sense your fear and LOWBALL the bejesus out of you.

Just like how everyone massively lowballed Gold Coast seeking to totally screw them over going into the 2023 draft when they had 4 kids in the first two rounds.