NO TROLLS Rankine handed a 4 match suspension by the AFL integrity unit for a homophobic slur against opponent

[Rank]

To be clear would you hold the same opinion if an opponent called Rankine the n-word?

I'd say the situation is different and being called the 'N' word would be more offensive to Rankine being an Aboriginal man.
The Collingwood player wasn't gay and therefore wouldn't be as offensive In my opinion..

I'd say the racially vilification would be a 2 game suspension a big fine and a cultural awareness course 1st offence.

The Rankine slur is worth 1 game, Fine and extra education.

A 2nd offence on either would be big.

 

[DangerSloane]

OMG the audacity of a racist commenting on this!

Funny because I've heard Eddie Maguire comment on it...
But guessing you dont care about YOUR racist.

 

[Underarm]

No homosexual AFL fan could be hurt by what Rankine said if the story wasn't told.

The AFL was never a welcoming place to be gay. The 7 instances in the past 2 years has just confirmed what we already know.

I'd rather the AFL do something about the problem everyone knew existed, rather than continue to bury their head in the sand.

 

[Spook]

Collingwood didn’t report it , Adelaide did and once again you’re completely ignoring the point

Collingwood contacted Adelaide to inform them of what was known, Adelaide are then obliged to report it to AFL integrity unit, which they did. If Adelaide didn’t Collingwood would have.
Rankin apologised to the player on the Sunday only after hearing from the club to try and get ahead of it. If he was truly remorseful he would have apologised after the game that night.

 

[Toump Ass]

Okay, so no list of unacceptable slurs/words.

Why is this necessary? Would you drop the n-word at work?

 

[Spook]

I think this is a good opportunity for the AFL to bring in a more sensible 2 week suspension as opposed to 4+ weeks.

Rankine misses the last game of the season and a qualifying final, that is still a huge penalty.

Keep the 4+ week suspensions for heat of the moment bigot words for those who do it multiple times.

Yep agreed, I think we all agree that 2 weeks is fairer, but it’s a bit late now as the AFL have set a precedent x 4.

 

[HeavyPop]

I think my favorite thing when something like this happens is watching the supporters of the club the player plays for attempt to justify or excuse the behavior. At the end of the day, the AFL have set a precedent with 4 weeks given to a player who self-reported, so anything less than that would create some drama.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Okay, so no list of unacceptable slurs/words. I am not making light of it but where is the line between nasty and really nasty?

Does your employer provide you with a prescriptive list of allowed/disallowed slurs?

Every organisation I've worked at doesn't. What they do have (and so does the AFL) is clear policies and codes of conduct including guidelines around discrimination, and then leave it up to their employees to be professional and exercise judgement within those policies. Those who exercise poor judgement are disciplined in line with the policy.

Is that not enough? You really think some HR person needs to be updating a live Excel document with specific slurs ranked and colour coded?

 

[Carringbush2010]

I'd much rather the coathanger thanks

This is disingenuous at best, even if you could convince anyone that you actually would instead of being physically assaulted is the mind set of an irrational person. I don't believe you are normally irrational, I think you're just being emotive and vengeful in this topic (and you're not alone).

All you're doing is discrediting the argument that he should be severely punished, hiding behind 'nah I'd rather get smashed in the head, coz it doesn't hurt as much as being called something'

Your consistency in the simplistic and dismissive route is also not helping.

He should be severely punished, to set an example, but not to appease the axe grindy types like you're being on this topic.

Do bettter.

Advocate for the right reasons and leave your vengeance behind, helps no one.

 

[beez]

Yep agreed, I think we all agree that 2 weeks is fairer, but it’s a bit late now as the AFL have set a precedent x 4.

I don't think we all agree at all.

I think plenty of people, myself included, believe it to be on par with racism and a suspension of four weeks is more than warranted. If a Collingwood player used that language on Saturday night I would be more than comfortable with him being suspended for the rest of the season.

It's fine if you don't think it's equal to racism, and plenty don't. It's fine if you think it should only warrant a two-week ban. But don't underestimate how many people want it 100% stamped out of our game.

 

[DangerSloane]

Does your employer provide you with a prescriptive list of allowed/disallowed slurs?

Every organisation I've worked at doesn't. What they do have is clear policies and codes of conduct including guidelines around discrimination, and then leaves it up to their employees to be professional and exercise judgement within those policies.

Is that not enough?

Put simply, no, but they should. I mean the f-word is a clear cut case but beyond that who knows.

Who is to say what others will be offended by. If you called someone a fairy is that homophobic?
What about a pu**y? Some say its sexist, others say its not. What about a sissy?
What about pansy? Goose? Idiot?

The line is different for every single person.

There are people that consider crap a swear word and would be offended by its use.

 

[Carringbush2010]

contact is a part of the sport whereas slurs aren't

Off topic but this is incorrect.

Slurs, sledging, banter whatever term you wanna use has been employed as a psychological tool to undermine opponents in sports, since sports began. And not just in sports, in any combative arena / field.

That doesn't excuse what Rankine said, but let's not pretend that footy players never have and never will again use psychological combat to undermine their opposition.

 

[MagpieJo]

All in good humour MJ

What a dick? Or should that not be in anyone's mouth anymore? There's one. In poor taste? You bet.

ah sorry, that went right over my head! well played!!!

 

[Hollow Knight]

Put simply, no, but they should. I mean the f-word is a clear cut case but beyond that who knows.

Who is to say what others will be offended by. If you called someone a fairy is that homophobic?
What about a pu**y? Some say its sexist, others say its not. What about a sissy?
What about pansy? Goose? Idiot?

The line is different for every single person.

Those lines are guided by anti-discrimination legislation and organisation specific policies and codes of conduct.

"Do not denigrate, demean or insult anyone based on their sexual orientation" should be sufficient enough without us having to create a literal list of every homophobic pejorative term used across human history.

 

[MagpieJo]

Ban him for life!!

Nah, actually, a fine is more than enough. AFL need to backtrack on ridiculous punishments for little words.

Also, the AFL should get rid of Pride Round. Why the hell does the AFL(W) feel the need to have a round (or 2) promoting homosexuality?? No offence, but it's stupid and not needed. Get rid of it.

you thinking its promoting homosexuality is why we need pride round!
no offence? dont be offensive!! grow up!

 

[Woody15]

Must be some rather intense wrangling behind the scenes with this punishment.

 

[MagpieJo]

Funny because I've heard Eddie Maguire comment on it...
But guessing you dont care about YOUR racist.

i dont like Eddies take on it either

 

[MagpieJo]

Collingwood contacted Adelaide to inform them of what was known, Adelaide are then obliged to report it to AFL, which they did. If Adelaide didn’t Collingwood would have.
Rankin apologised to the player on the Sunday only after hearing from the club to try and get ahead of it. If he was truly remorseful he would have apologised after the game that night.

oh wow, well that really changes things, thats not self reporting, thats self serving!
give him 8!

 

[Geelong_Bisons_#36]

Must be some rather intense wrangling behind the scenes with this punishment.

How are they going to spin it so he only gets 3 weeks.

 

[Festerz]

News from AFL House deliberations on what to do in response to the latest on field homophobic slur are starting to filter out...

 

[MagpieJo]

Yep agreed, I think we all agree that 2 weeks is fairer, but it’s a bit late now as the AFL have set a precedent x 4.

i dont agree

 

[DangerSloane]

Apparently Rankine was copping verbal abuse all game from multiple Collingwood players.

No excuse for using the slur but cant wait for the melts if he brings some of them down with him.

 

[MrBarry]

I think my favorite thing when something like this happens is watching the supporters of the club the player plays for attempt to justify or excuse the behavior. At the end of the day, the AFL have set a precedent with 4 weeks given to a player who self-reported, so anything less than that would create some drama.

Yeah and they are probably realising it's a stupid precedent.

 

[MrBarry]

i dont agree

Lol at all the Collingwood and Hawthorn supporters salivating at the prospect of him not playing against them.

I reckon a few of your boys are gonna get dragged into this as well. So I'd just relax yourself.

 

[Crowmurder]

Must be some rather intense wrangling behind the scenes with this punishment.

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