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Mero said:
I would speculate that the 1912 version may have been new jumpers issued as they were the first jumpers with numbers on them.
Perhaps they had to get a new set, with numbers, and got a less detailed monogram sewn on.
Then at the end of that season determined the scripted monogram was what they wanted.

I would be interested in more photos than can be found at this site:

| Carlton Team Photos

www.hiddenfootyhistories.org www.hiddenfootyhistories.org

And a really good front on image of the 1912 monogram would be helpful

Looks like every version of it is slightly different to the next. I came up with this
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Well this photo also appeared on that website you linked, 11 May 1912:
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They also reference Blueseum so they're interchangable sources at this stage, but can't seem to find any others.

It definitely looks like both the top of the Γ and C have a 'ribbon' design like you've got on the skinnier C already, however not the middle '-' of the F. I'll keep digging.

I'd argue though that the large C is a bit more circular too, but that's a very good start. If you reduce the width of the F and the large C, I think that will pretty much get us there for the basic shape. Old mate in the middle row (on the right) would be the perfect large C I think. I drew in blue where the notches in the FC are, as well as the flat part in the '-'.
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Next when I get the chance, I'm going to try pull apart the 1927 monogram - looking a bit too angular for my liking 😉 Thanks Mero!
 
Oakes23 said:
I've tried my best with Carlton, I've cut out all the one offs when other logos have been in use so I'd say this is reliable.
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interestingly the 1905-1919 logo has a very similar monogram to what they used from 1954-2005 (just less bold lettering)

also i wonder why the classic monogram (the 2020- logo) was so different to what they were using on the official logos?
 
Mero
This photo is said to be taken of Geelong around 1877 at the Argyle Ground (they moved to Corio Oval in 1878).
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But I can’t see this jumper on your page. Looks knitted, many thin stripes, long sleeves.
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This was based on the 2004 home design and not the 97 one to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the 2004 premiership, note the collar. And also a lot of Port's retro guernseys, like the 2014 10th anniversary premiership guernsey and prison bar guernseys are still in the promotional page, not the retro/heritage one.
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For https://www.footyjumpers.com/port2010.htm it should be "used in home games R1-8" because you already have the 140 guernsey for R10, and Port wore clash for R9.
 
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GoldbergsGold said:
This was based on the 2004 home design and not the 97 one to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the 2004 premiership, note the collar. And also a lot of Port's retro guernseys, like the 2014 10th anniversary premiership guernsey and prison bar guernseys are still in the promotional page, not the retro/heritage one.
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For https://www.footyjumpers.com/port2010.htm it should be "used in home games R1-8" because you already have the 140 guernsey for R10, and Port wore clash for R9.
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2010 & 2024 jumper descriptions changed.
Prison Bar jumpers are now in the Heritage/Retro folder
 
Mero said:
2010 & 2024 jumper descriptions changed.
Prison Bar jumpers are now in the Heritage/Retro folder
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Great, but the 2013 prison bar is still in promotional guernseys. Also, does the 2006 clash heritage round guernsey count as heritage? Since in 2006, it's neither heritage or retro. I know they used the heritage round logo on it and used it for heritage round, so that's a real tough one, maybe it should be in promotional?
 
Swooping_Magpie said:
i reckon this hawks jumper should be moved to the away jumpers section given it’s been worn a few times now
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This is the problem with the ever shifting definition of jumpers.
Yes, it's been worn a number of times, but for what purpose?
I can't really have a Folder called Jumpers We Hope You Buy
It's not used specifically as a Clash jumper, no-one clashes with Hawthorn.
It's not used in all Away games like North are doing with the Bounding Roo.
The club actually call it a Gold Heritage jumper, though I do not think it warrants inclusion in the Heritage/Retro section, just as the Grey & Red Essendon Clash jumpers of 2012-2017 were called Heritage jumpers by the club.
 
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Great, but the 2013 prison bar is still in promotional guernseys. Also, does the 2006 clash heritage round guernsey count as heritage? Since in 2006, it's neither heritage or retro. I know they used the heritage round logo on it and used it for heritage round, so that's a real tough one, maybe it should be in promotional?
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The Members names on the 2013, and the fact that the club call it a Members Appreciation jumper means it goes in the One-Off section.
2006 Heritage, I agree it's stupid. But it was what they wore in a Round when all clubs wore Heritage jumpers.
I just know if I did move it to One-Off, I'd get emails from people asking where the 2006 Port Heritage jumper was.
 
Mero said:
This is the problem with the ever shifting definition of jumpers.
Yes, it's been worn a number of times, but for what purpose?
I can't really have a Folder called Jumpers We Hope You Buy
It's not used specifically as a Clash jumper, no-one clashes with Hawthorn.
It's not used in all Away games like North are doing with the Bounding Roo.
The club actually call it a Gold Heritage jumper, though I do not think it warrants inclusion in the Heritage/Retro section, just as the Grey & Red Essendon Clash jumpers of 2012-2017 were called Heritage jumpers by the club.
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I agree Mero but also would it worth noting how the club describes their jumper in the on the right hand side notes?
eg. Gather Round Jumper, "Gold Heritage"... something like that?
It might be superfluous on the other hand, just a thought.
 
seaforthswan said:
I agree Mero but also would it worth noting how the club describes their jumper in the on the right hand side notes?
eg. Gather Round Jumper, "Gold Heritage"... something like that?
It might be superfluous on the other hand, just a thought.
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I could add it to the Hawthorn description
 
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Working on dates for these 80s/90s logos.
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I don't think I've ever seen a Freo version, so 1995 for most. But then, they were associated with some clubs later. The Bulldogs have a version with the robo-dog logo which was from 1997. And North were using theirs right up until the 1999 premiership.
 
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