NO TROLLS Rankine handed a 4 match suspension by the AFL integrity unit for a homophobic slur against opponent

[crowman2]

No one gives a shit about players sledging each other. It happens all game. Maybe some think it's bad, but it's not a vocal some.

It's now a vocal majority who think that racist or homophobic sledging is bad, as there's been a culture of it and it is a form of discrimination. So most want it gone from the game

Not if your part of the Aussie cricket team

 

[Forward Press]

We've now circled back to it's okay to call someone a f***** because a team in another sport were known for sledging.

Do we have any evidence for that team using racist, sexist or homophobic insults?

 

[Humblebob]

Does anyone even have evidence Rankine was being targeted "all match"? Or is this just accepted as fact because it conveniently shifts a little bit of fault off the player who committed the offence?

People started saying it after the news came out but all i ever saw as evidence was a tweet lol. It's clear Houston had said something but to intimate it was for prolonged periods of time and by multiple players, without any back and forth, seems to be trying to frame Rankine as some sort of victim of bullying. It seems this is what the less, enlightened, amongst the supporter base seem to have run with.

Very much a schoolyard defence or mindset, and from the same people saying how soft the game has become. Poor little fella had to put up with some on field banter? Ohhh the humanity, bet that's never happened before.

 

[sr36]

Not if your part of the Aussie cricket team

I'm not sure what incident you're referring to. But your whattaboutism has gone to a different sport with a different culture and probably during a different historical context. Most AFL players would be suspended and fined a heap if we applied golf or tennis etiquette to them. - Drop a putt or serve an ace and then go and push your opponent in the chest laugh at him and call him a weak prick or whatever they say nowadays on a footy field ... that'd go down well at the British Open - or Wimbledon.

 

[sr36]

Does anyone even have evidence Rankine was being targeted "all match"? Or is this just accepted as fact because it conveniently shifts a little bit of fault off the player who committed the offence?

People started saying it after the news came out but all i ever saw as evidence was a tweet lol. It's clear Houston had said something but to intimate it was for prolonged periods of time and by multiple players, without any back and forth, seems to be trying to frame Rankine as some sort of victim of bullying. It seems this is what the less, enlightened, amongst the supporter base seem to have run with.

Very much a schoolyard defence or mindset, and from the same people saying how soft the game has become. Poor little fella had to put up with some on field banter? Ohhh the humanity, bet that's never happened before.

Rankine would have copped a heap from Collingwood players that game, he kicked a goal from staging and then staged so badly later on that he copped a fine at the MRO. But yeah many Adelaide fans are running an Izzy as victim argument.

 

[crowman2]

I'm not sure what incident you're referring to. But your whattaboutism has gone to a different sport with a different culture and probably during a different historical context. Most AFL players would be suspended and fined a heap if we applied golf or tennis etiquette to them. - Drop a putt or serve an ace and then go and push your opponent in the chest laugh at him and call him a weak prick or whatever they say nowadays on a footy field ... that'd go down well at the British Open - or Wimbledon.

If you don’t think the Aussie cricket team used whatever they wanted you must have been living under a rock

 

[Gough]

If you don’t think the Aussie cricket team used whatever they wanted you must have been living under a rock

Before the 72/73 Pakistan series Ian Chappell told his team that if he heard a sledge prefaced with "black" that person had a problem with him (per Fire in Babylon by Lister) so you're a touch over fifty years off with that.

 

[Munich]

If you don’t think the Aussie cricket team used whatever they wanted you must have been living under a rock

What does a cricket team decades ago have to do with present day AFL?

 

[JimmyBC]

What does a cricket team decades ago have to do with present day AFL?

Nothing.

 

[sr36]

If you don’t think the Aussie cricket team used whatever they wanted you must have been living under a rock

I don't know what your point is. Your talking about a different sport in a different era. I'm assuming that in the past homophobic slurs were used regularly in Test Cricket. They used to be commonplace in sport.

Shane Warnes era was an era before sexuality had been included in the Sex Discrimination Act. What Warney and others said to their opponents in that era is completely irrelevant.

What other players say to each other that you might consider really obnoxious, but which isn't subject to Australia's Discrimination Acts is also irrelevant. Not many people expect footballers to be nice to each other. They're expected to avoid discriminatory abuse about race or sexuality. Rankine didn't avoid that. It's really that ****ing simple.

 

[The Casey Cat]

If you don’t think the Aussie cricket team used whatever they wanted you must have been living under a rock

As it has been in this whole unfortunate topic, you're whataboutism is irrelevant, ignorant, deluded and pathetic. If this sort of garbage is the only argument or contribution you can muster then you simply don't really have one and should shut up.

 

[crowman2]

Before the 72/73 Pakistan series Ian Chappell told his team that if he heard a sledge prefaced with "black" that person had a problem with him (per Fire in Babylon by Lister) so you're a touch over fifty years off with that.

Still doing it today even after king warnes antics

Just part of Australian sledging

 

[crowman2]

As it has been in this whole unfortunate topic, you're whataboutism is irrelevant, ignorant, deluded and pathetic. If this sort of garbage is the only argument or contribution you can muster then you simply don't really have one and should shut up.

So you are living under a rock aren’t you grommie

 

[crowman2]

I don't know what your point is. Your talking about a different sport in a different era. I'm assuming that in the past homophobic slurs were used regularly in Test Cricket. They used to be commonplace in sport.

Shane Warnes era was an era before sexuality had been included in the Sex Discrimination Act. What Warney and others said to their opponents in that era is completely irrelevant.

What other players say to each other that you might consider really obnoxious, but which isn't subject to Australia's Discrimination Acts is also irrelevant. Not many people expect footballers to be nice to each other. They're expected to avoid discriminatory abuse about race or sexuality. Rankine didn't avoid that. It's really that ****ing simple.

As I said grommie just Australian sport you may get used to it one day

 

[sr36]

As I said grommie just Australian sport you may get used to it one day

Times change. They don't let us drive pissed anymore either.

 

[crowman2]

Times change. They don't let us drive pissed anymore either.

Keep thinking that grommie

It might come try probs won’t

 

[Humblebob]

Keep thinking that grommie

It might come try probs won’t

Da fkss a grommie? I’m still waiting for that Daicos flopper song you promised us!

Sing us a verse!

 

[sr36]

Keep thinking that grommie

It might come try probs won’t

It's already come true. (I assume that's what you were trying to say).

I was at Vic Park the day that the Winmar photo was taken - when Winmar and McAdam cut us to ribbons and were racially abused for it all day from both sides of the fence. Put that day into a current context and security would have desended into the crowd and lots of the crowd would have gotten lifetime bans. Heaps of the Collingwood players would have gotten very lengthy suspensions and the Collingwood President would have been made to stand down immediately for saying that Aboriginals would be fine if they behaved like white people.

I miss a lot of things about those times - but thankfully the racial and homophobic abuse is on its way out.

But you seem unable or perhaps just unwilling to differentiate between the standard accepted sledging that players and the crowd still dish out in the current game and discriminatory abuse, so I'll leave it there.

 

[RCAB]

We've now circled back to it's okay to call someone a f***** because a team in another sport were known for sledging.

Do we have any evidence for that team using racist, sexist or homophobic insults?

I don't care what their excuse is.

The word was never okay 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 50 years ago, 100 years ago, 500 years ago, a thousand years ago.

The British empire was the biggest proponent of introducing laws to dozens of countries and multiple continents, which outlawed things like sodomy.

Across history, many Indigenous and pre-colonial cultures embraced or tolerated sexual and gender diversity, and it was often colonial, religious, or imperial systems that introduced criminalisation and homophobia.

 

[Forward Press]

wtf is even a grommie.

 

[RCAB]

wtf is even a grommie.

Google:

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"Grommie" can refer to several different things, most commonly a young participant in extreme sports like surfing, skateboarding, or snowboarding, similar to a "grommet". It can also be the name of a New Zealand DJ known for her multi-genre bass music. Additionally, a "Grommie" electric head shaver is a brand of grooming device.

 

[north_lad]

wtf is even a grommie.

I think Crowman2 is implying that people are young and naive to think that this kind of behaviour is beyond the pale. Of course, he follows the Crows so is probably a MORON

 

[Osho]

Surfing and skateboarding are extreme sports?

Gemini needs more friends, and a body to get outside with.

 

[crowman2]

wtf is even a grommie.

You’re too old let go

 

[Freddy Swift]

I have a genuine question. Somebody posted a link to an article by a gay Crow supporter referring to themselves as ‘queer’. Queer by definition means odd or peculiar and to me sounds every bit as derogatory as other slurs that have been used. Why is this word acceptable to the gay community?