Traded Liam Ryan [Traded with 2027 R3 to St Kilda for 2026 R2 (Stk)]

[Barrybran]

If Liam Ryan was a free agent, eagles would either get an early 3rd rounder which is pick 38-40 or a mid 2nd rounder which is around pick 30-32

Which free agency band do you think Ryan would fall into?

 

[Freomaniac]

Which free agency band do you think Ryan would fall into?

Depending on the situation.

If this was 2 years ago and he was a free agent as a 26 or 27 year old, I think it's an early 2nd round compensation pick like pick 22 similar to Willy Rioli.

Saints will pony up a future 2nd if they are desperate to get him

He isn't worth pick 21 to 24.

Likely to be pick 38 to 42

 

[Barrybran]

Depending on the situation.

If this was 2 years ago and he was a free agent as a 26 or 27 year old, I think it's an early 2nd round compensation pick like pick 22 similar to Willy Rioli.

Saints will pony up a future 2nd if they are desperate to get him

He isn't worth pick 21 to 24.

Likely to be pick 38 to 42

That's why I ask about the bands.

They're offering him $600k / year. He's still under contract for one more year.

If we hold onto Ryan and he leaves next year, we receive compensation for him leaving. if we hold onto him, we get the value of Ryan playing for another season. If the Saints give us an F2, we won't get to use that pick for another year, leaving us in the same position as if we had held onto him.

Whatever we get from St Kilda should be better value than keeping him for another season.

 

[Atomboy]

That's why I ask about the bands.

They're offering him $600k / year. He's still under contract for one more year.

If we hold onto Ryan and he leaves next year, we receive compensation for him leaving. if we hold onto him, we get the value of Ryan playing for another season. If the Saints give us an F2, we won't get to use that pick for another year, leaving us in the same position as if we had held onto him.

Whatever we get from St Kilda should be better value than keeping him for another season.

Saints offer to him next year will logically drop given he is a year older meaning your likely compo will also drop ?. And possibly end up as an end of second rounder……

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Saints offer to him next year will logically drop given he is a year older meaning your likely compo will also drop ?. And possibly end up as an end of second rounder……

Oh well, another year of Ryan in the team is worth a shit pick downgrading to a slightly more shit one.

 

[Scotland]

Mate you’re going to finish stone cold last again next year, not even Jesus Christ at CHF and Jean Claude van Damme at FB could make you better….

And you will add TDK and Ryan and Aleer and Silvagni and win 11 games.

What does that have to do with Ryan's trade value?

 

[bird_man]

I'm not for targetting Ryan at all, so not keen to give up a future second. But I also think it's fair value.

 

[billings2paddy]

I'm not for targetting Ryan at all, so not keen to give up a future second. But I also think it's fair value.

Swap of later picks back

 

[Barrybran]

Swap of later picks back

Yeah I don't think so. There needs to be more on top of an F2, not less.

 

[billings2paddy]

Yeah I don't think so. There needs to be more on top of an F2, not less

More chances of getting more for Chesser than us paying more than an F2 for ryan

 

[Altum Volantes]

Hilarious to check back into this thread after a week and see this dude ^ still posting ad nauseam.

 

[txbyhull]

Hilarious to check back into this thread after a week and see this dude ^ still posting ad nauseam.

Pretty sure it’s just a serious hate boner for the eagles. Been finding him in every eagles related thread bashing us and our posters every chance he gets lol. Think it’s bc they’re the 1 in 1-22

 

[Atomboy]

And you will add TDK and Ryan and Aleer and Silvagni and win 11 games.

What does that have to do with Ryan's trade value?

Ryan deserves better.

#freeRyan

 

[MisterMarcus]

It’s like whiplash coming from the Rowan Marshall

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thread to here.

 

[Wojcinski]

Saints fans want 3x firsts for Rowan Marshall

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but think an F2 for Flyin Ryan is too much?

 

[Falchoon]

It’s like whiplash coming from the Rowan Marshall thread to here.

If neither are traded I wouldn't be too fussed.

 

[txbyhull]

Saints fans want 3x firsts for Rowan Marshall but think an F2 for Flyin Ryan is too much?

Very much a pot meet kettle situation over there. Raging about value, when the same people disregard the Eagles value for Ryan and say nah take it or leave it. Asking 3 first rounders for Marshall is like us asking for 8 as a straight swap for Ryan. Ludicrous

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

It’s like whiplash coming from the Rowan Marshall thread to here.

For about the fourth time - saints fans saw Nas re-sign and immediately started acting exactly like the port fans they hated.

 

[EconomicDecline]

Cal Twomey on the latest episode of Gettable places Ryan’s value between F2 and F3.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Cal Twomey on the latest episode of Gettable places Ryan’s value between F2 and F3.

I'd have put more stock in him agreeing with me on Ryan's value if he didnt follow it up with 34 for Chesser...

 

[Leedsfirst]

I'm not for targetting Ryan at all, so not keen to give up a future second. But I also think it's fair value.

Why not? He does everything well except rehabbing. Fantastic player and great team mate. Ross is no dummy.

 

[stavro#4]

For about the fourth time - saints fans saw Nas re-sign and immediately started acting exactly like the port fans they hated.

So because we didn’t agree with west coast fans opinion that he is worth a late first or a downgrade to pick 7 - we are like the port Adelaide supporters who said they would walk Nas through the draft or have to accept whatever pittance they would throw our way for a top 5 player in the comp?


Evidently most of us have Ryan for an F2. You guys said no. But Twomey is also saying that’s the ball park aswell as your own WA sport journos.

As I posted pages ago. You guys are setting your expectations to high because he is one of your better players (in a poor side)

 

[Scotland]

I'd have put more stock in him agreeing with me on Ryan's value if he didnt follow it up with 34 for Chesser...

Ryan is worth F2/F3 and Chesser is worth 34. That's new.

Are we valuing players based on how many games they have played now?

 

[bird_man]

Why not? He does everything well except rehabbing. Fantastic player and great team mate. Ross is no dummy.

I just don't think he's been that great over the last four years and I don't think he's the age demographic that the club should be chasing.

He seems like the type a top four club should be chasing for a bit of icing on the cake.

Each to their own though

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

Saints fans want 3x firsts for Rowan Marshall but think an F2 for Flyin Ryan is too much?

I think most Saints fans see Marshall's value as around pick 15, and Ryan's as between 25-35. So mid first rounder, mid second rounder.

The problem with Marshall to the Cats is your pick is likely to fall around pick 25 after compo and F/S and Academy picks. Hence why we are asking for a little more. I'm sure if you added a F2 to that pick, it would get done day one of trade period. If you added a pick around 35-45, it would get accepted if it seals another deal. And if you dug your heals in on a first by itself, we'd probably rather take Marshall into next year and see how he goes with TDK

The problem with Ryan is a little more simple, in that we don't have a pick between 25-35 this year, hence why we're offering a F2. I get the feeling that WC are happy to accept this, and we're happy to pay it, as it seems like Ryan wouldn't have nominated us so early if he wasn't confident a deal was pretty much already done.