Rumour Bluemour Discussion XL - ‘Silly Season’ in full swing 😱

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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Thanks all!

 

[Gavstar]

If Suns think their window is now. This trade seems a win/win/win.

Gives Suns the mature proven version of what they are losing and more points.

Suns > Petracca & Curnow & TDK Pick
Dees > Flanders & Pick 31 (GC)
Blues > Humphrey & Walter

JUH is much cheaper than Charlie and that rumour is circulating.

Much lower cost, high risk but with a potential high return over a longer period.

 

[Blue and Silver]

IF Charlie is staying, I hope he takes this as a reality check about how other clubs view him.

Nice to have if cheap is different then we will move heaven and earth.

Charlie is a superstar when he is on, but he is not on enough for other clubs to see him as worth selling a farm for

 

[SolGoodman]

The JUH to the Suns rumour is interesting, suggests both us and them aren't really that desperate to make the Charlie trade happen, which would also make sense with Chad's quotes yesterday.

Think Charlie stays at this point, just don't think it's even remotely possible to get a deal done realistically.

 

[manang magoos]

That’s not true.

I’m pretty confident he’d be able to deck Nick Daicos.

Get in line Gerard

 

[Jatz]

IF Charlie is staying, I hope he takes this as a reality check about how other clubs view him.

Nice to have if cheap is different then we will move heaven and earth.

Charlie is a superstar when he is on, but he is not on enough for other clubs to see him as worth selling a farm for

I don't even know if it's the superstar part, it's just no club willing to sell the farm for a 29 year old that showed no form this year and has had injury concerns.

I think we'd be pretty livid as a supporter base if we as a club gave up the farm for a player like that, if roles were reversed.

If he wanted this move, it really needed to be a couple of years ago.

 

[The Bighouse]

Did anyone see the tik tok Sam walsh just posted on the Carlton tik tok?

Tour of Chelsea soccer club with frnak the tank, Fogarty, cow, cotters in tow

But I could have sworn there was paddy Dow and an Adam cerra look a like were there too

Paddy come back?

They’re good mates, ex or on-going housemates. Traveled in off-seasons before.

FTT, Cotters and someone else (IIRC) were traveling together post-season.

Edit: #3 it was Binnsy (HUN called him Cowan, who may have been with them).

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

They can’t control what the media spruik, to sell papers and get views.

Of course they can control it. The media have told us that Charlie was open to a trade in his exit meeting. Where did that come from? They told us that Charlie came back from overseas and said he wanted out. Where did that come from? We get a daily narrative of Charlie being desperate. These things don't come from an imagination. The source is obviously his management.

All we should be hearing is that Charlie would like to get out of the Melbourne bubble (allowing for interstate or Geelong), but recognises a deal will be hard to do, and is happy to stay at Carlton with his teammates that he loves. Instead, it has been played out that Charlie is desperate to leave (implying his position at Carlton is untenable), and created the narrative that Carlton are the bad guys creating a toxic environment, and holding a player to ransom.

How many trust Charlie to play his guts out for the club if he stays now? I don't. I'm hopeful, but very wary.

 

[The Bighouse]

They were at octoberfest in Munich with dow, Errol gulden and Tom McCartin from the swans.

Haven't seen tiktok but I did see Walsh looking huge in some of those pics.

Edit

Cerra is there too so the look alike is probably Cerra?

Gulden ‘eh!
The plot thickens….

 

[dumb]

I think people need to seriously temper their expectations on what we'll get back for Charlie. And the talk of letting him rot in the twos is absolute idiocy and I'm glad some of you don't run the club.

charlie's form will largely dictate whether or not he rots in vfl. if no trade happens, and he sooks and stinks it up, the club won't have much choice. i think he'll be motivated to avoid something like that, as i mentioned earlier. his personal brand risks taking a hit if he's running around in vfl (mind you, being on the sidelines didn't do bailey smith any harm).

 

[lukep_86]

These footy award nights are always a bit loose… I heard a story about Gerard Whateley throwing hands and eventually dropping Tom Barrass, then he had Weddle in a headlock on the floor. Whole party had to step in before he let go.

He'd struggle to knock the froth off a beer

 

[katmanblue]

I wonder what bullshit he has fed Charlie

 

[ferrisb]

Gulden to the blues it is then

Oooooooh Errol.

I would give anything, just to trade him in...

 

[Aphrodite]

Linton St Bank/Superannuation Retirement Fund at it again

 

[katmanblue]

Linton St Bank at it again

Good. If anything could help if they do want to throw the hat in for Charlie. Otherwise these will beat eaten up with bid on their academy players.

 

[Magruder]

Man, it's crazy seeing how much other boards are underrating Curnow.

Banged up, washed up etc.

GC board poster reckons Flanders for #7 is ‘fair’….

Discuss…

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Linton St Bank at it again

 

[Blue and Silver]

I just don't know how the Saints do this without inevitably losing young talent who want pay commensurate with their abilities

 

[Aphrodite]

Did anyone see the tik tok Sam walsh just posted on the Carlton tik tok?

Tour of Chelsea soccer club with frnak the tank, Fogarty, cow, cotters in tow

But I could have sworn there was paddy Dow and an Adam cerra look a like were there too

Paddy come back?

 

[Foucault1989]

St kilda are insane. But hey they are having a crack i guess

 

[RPCB]

Linton St Bank at it again

After a year where he’s averaged 12 fewer disposals per game? Sure why not lol.

 

[Cripptonite]

My take: The media and other clubs are severely underestimating Charlie’s worth.

He is easily a top 10 player in the league when healthy. Would have had a three peat of Coleman medals if not for that injury vs GWS last year. He plays a position KPF that demands a massive premium and a super rare talent with only one other player in the league Jeremy Cameron

5

Jeremy Cameron

Age

32

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

arguably around the same level. He is in his prime and on top of all that he is contracted for 4 more years!

It’s a huge loss for Carlton if we let him go. We’d need to get huge value in return or hold him to his contract if we don’t. If I’m GW, the only way I’m sitting at the trade table for each suitor is:

1. Gold Coast: a combination of Walter, Humphrey or King or no deal (looks like they’ve accepted it’s not happening by enquiry after JUH)

2. Swans: one of Heeney or Gulden need to be part of the deal or walk away

3. Cats: a combination of Holmes, SDK Osullivan, Neale. (Won’t happen in my opinion)

If Charlie leaves he’ll be kicking 60+ goals per season for the next 5 years, probably win flags and will make us look silly like Josh Kennedy did at WCE or Betts at the Crows.

If he stays who knows we’ll likely have a new coach in 12 months which could convince Charlie to buy back in. Hoping he stays, knowing no club will stump up appropriate value.

 

[ctwenty1]

thanks Aph

walshy noticable bigger than the others...

 

[dumb]

I just don't know how the Saints do this without inevitably losing young talent who want pay commensurate with their abilities

a couple of options

win premiership - these players will stay for success. maybe the higher paid players will be happy to fillet a little off their contracts for sustained success. edit: you can say what you like about his success as a list manager, but sos is quite forward thinking with his tactical approaches on building a list.
don't win premiership - list manager jumps ship

 

[Aphrodite]

That’s not true.

I’m pretty confident he’d be able to deck Nick Daicos.

 

[katmanblue]

St kilda are insane. But hey they are having crack i guess

Ftfy