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[lalorGOAT]

he kicked that goal, was composed, did not feel the pressure, in space after others gave it to him and he did not play the first half

You said yourself that you hadn't watched the full game yet. Don't judge him until you get around to it. He was unreal.

 

[RobsJourney]

I’ve said it a couple of times already but I really hope we do draft Robey.

Being gifted pick 3 from North (to be 4 after Allen compo) is a blessing, it’s the perfect pick to use on a bolter, and we use our own pick on the “sure” thing with runs on the board (eg Sharp).

I’ll be super pissed off if we split the pick.

 

[Mr Magic]

You said yourself that you hadn't watched the full game yet. Don't judge him until you get around to it. He was unreal.

I seen enough. I probably seen nearly 75 percent of the game

Lachie clearly was not BOG in my eyes and his other teammates had greater influence.

Lachie simply is not a barometer and is massively overrated

the point is he played better at gf intensity because he did not play first half in a very good team while his opponents did, lol

in other words if he started the game he would not be be able to do what he did and was propped up by his teammates

Neale isa good player, but he is not a world beater IMO

 

[sregit]

Mmm I mean I’m not mad about it at all, if this is true.



Mcglugage was BOG yesterday, I have a family friend who is a lions maniac and thought so too. He was tagged hard as well.
AFL will push hard to get Ashcroft to match Dusty’s 3 norms.

3 norms looks easily achievable for Ashcroft. Brisbane will be up top for at least 2 or 3 years more.

 

[copthat]

I didn't look at yesterday's game and think speed in the midfield was a massive factor, I wouldn't say they are the quickest midfield groups. Looking at CBAs, Holmes, Smith, Mullin, Atkins, Danger are about as quick as Ashcroft, McCluggage, Neale, Dunkley (played with grade 3 syndesmosis), Rayner. Ashcroft tested an elite 20m sprint, Holmes is quick. The rest you could call it even. The key really is no one is glacially slow.

The game had a huge number of stoppages. As we know the stats were literally even at half time. Brissy got on top by being far cleaner and far stronger over the ball in the second half. Their smarts and ability to exit cleanly as a group was elite and it had more to do with being great in the clinches than anything to do with speed IMO. 11 stoppage goals to 4. They were also massive with their physicality (see Rayner). They bullied the Cats. Smith is pretty quick and has amazing running power but could you say he was strong over the ball? Remember Dunkley shoving him into Row Z and running away with the ball? Look at his one handed effort prior to Neale's goal. Not strong enough.

Not saying speed wasn't and isn't important. You definitely need it in areas. Charlie Cameron

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Charlie Cameron

Age

31

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

2star

K

7.9

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.2

4star

broke the game open. Bailey found a lot of space. Lohmann too. And your midfielders can't be too slow. I just think they don't need elite speed. It's why I'm pretty keen on Greeves, even though I understand the similarity to Smillie. Sharp I can't say I would have too many complaints about. Robey looks to have the right qualities too as long as he can definitely be a midfielder at AFL level.

 

[Mr Magic]

Neale could have greater impact being a poor mans Ashcroft by being the sub coming on in the second half, which in effect was a tactical masterstroke

 

[Mr Magic]

I didn't look at yesterday's game and think speed in the midfield was a massive factor, I wouldn't say they are the quickest midfield groups. Looking at CBAs, Holmes, Smith, Mullin, Atkins, Danger are about as quick as Ashcroft, McCluggage, Neale, Dunkley (played with grade 3 syndesmosis), Rayner. Ashcroft tested an elite 20m sprint, Holmes is quick. The rest you could call it even. The key really is no one is glacially slow.

The game had a huge number of stoppages. As we know the stats were literally even at half time. Brissy got on top by being far cleaner and far stronger over the ball in the second half. Their smarts and ability to exit cleanly as a group was elite and it had more to do with being great in the clinches than anything to do with speed IMO. 11 stoppage goals to 4. They were also massive with their physicality (see Rayner). They bullied the Cats. Smith is pretty quick and has amazing running power but could you say he was strong over the ball? Remember Dunkley shoving him into Row Z and running away with the ball? Look at his one handed effort prior to Neale's goal. Not strong enough.

Not saying speed wasn't and isn't important. You definitely need it in areas. Charlie Cameron broke the game open. Bailey found a lot of space. Lohmann too. And your midfielders can't be too slow. I just think they don't need elite speed. It's why I'm pretty keen on Greeves, even though I understand the similarity to Smillie. Sharp I can't say I would have too many complaints about. Robey looks to have the right qualities too as long as he can definitely be a midfielder at AFL level.

injuries to Cameron etc. and scoreboard pressure, both Ashcrofts kicked very good goals while Bailey missed a few


Geelong got 16 to 4 free kicks for in the first half. Going down on the scoreboard looked like they felt every goal hitting them and Danger could not repeat last week with Dunkley watching/stunting him to

Stanley was a liability, Smith felt the pressure. Even their young Geelong backman felt the pressure O Sullivan, De Kooning made a few mistakes, it was coming in a bit

Brisbane looked to have a pace/burst advantage, even with Ah Chee and Raynor, they where overwhelmed int he end I think

on the radio they felt Geelong was getting beat in the ruck including by Fort

 

[sregit]

I didn't look at yesterday's game and think speed in the midfield was a massive factor, I wouldn't say they are the quickest midfield groups. Looking at CBAs, Holmes, Smith, Mullin, Atkins, Danger are about as quick as Ashcroft, McCluggage, Neale, Dunkley (played with grade 3 syndesmosis), Rayner. Ashcroft tested an elite 20m sprint, Holmes is quick. The rest you could call it even. The key really is no one is glacially slow.

The game had a huge number of stoppages. As we know the stats were literally even at half time. Brissy got on top by being far cleaner and far stronger over the ball in the second half. Their smarts and ability to exit cleanly as a group was elite and it had more to do with being great in the clinches than anything to do with speed IMO. 11 stoppage goals to 4. They were also massive with their physicality (see Rayner). They bullied the Cats. Smith is pretty quick and has amazing running power but could you say he was strong over the ball? Remember Dunkley shoving him into Row Z and running away with the ball? Look at his one handed effort prior to Neale's goal. Not strong enough.

Not saying speed wasn't and isn't important. You definitely need it in areas. Charlie Cameron broke the game open. Bailey found a lot of space. Lohmann too. And your midfielders can't be too slow. I just think they don't need elite speed. It's why I'm pretty keen on Greeves, even though I understand the similarity to Smillie. Sharp I can't say I would have too many complaints about. Robey looks to have the right qualities too as long as he can definitely be a midfielder at AFL level.

Your assessment of the game was on the mark. Brisbane were just better over the ball in the second half. Speed is a necessity, however, calmness in the clinches and cleaner possession are more important. Brisbane’s midfield group are smarter ball users.

I’m also with you that I’d like Greeves. Good in tight situations and can get to the outside also. A smart footballer.

 

[Phar Ace]

Lachie simply is not a barometer and is massively overrated

A bit like yourself here, then I'm guessing.

Just a coincidence then that Lions really roared when he came on. Overrated Sub

 

[Mr Magic]

A bit like yourself here, then I'm guessing.

Just a coincidence then that Lions really roared when he came on. Overrated Sub

umpires easing off , plus wear and tear on cats, plus Lions more energetic collectively/younger, less injuries/better bottom six plus no first half gave Neale a leg up

some one wrote a lot of Cats did not get much ball

Brisbane had a superior list I think on the field

Zorko did not have a brilliant game but was okay at times while C Cameron caught fire(has been largely a non-factor this season) and Cats struggled with Lions pace in defensive fifty on the ground

In hind sight C Cameron had nearly his best game nearly for the year, or most impactful and Neale was good in the second half, C Cameron did his damage mainly in the second half, what does this suggest??

 

[tigs2010]

I didn't look at yesterday's game and think speed in the midfield was a massive factor, I wouldn't say they are the quickest midfield groups. Looking at CBAs, Holmes, Smith, Mullin, Atkins, Danger are about as quick as Ashcroft, McCluggage, Neale, Dunkley (played with grade 3 syndesmosis), Rayner. Ashcroft tested an elite 20m sprint, Holmes is quick. The rest you could call it even. The key really is no one is glacially slow.

The game had a huge number of stoppages. As we know the stats were literally even at half time. Brissy got on top by being far cleaner and far stronger over the ball in the second half. Their smarts and ability to exit cleanly as a group was elite and it had more to do with being great in the clinches than anything to do with speed IMO. 11 stoppage goals to 4. They were also massive with their physicality (see Rayner). They bullied the Cats. Smith is pretty quick and has amazing running power but could you say he was strong over the ball? Remember Dunkley shoving him into Row Z and running away with the ball? Look at his one handed effort prior to Neale's goal. Not strong enough.

Not saying speed wasn't and isn't important. You definitely need it in areas. Charlie Cameron broke the game open. Bailey found a lot of space. Lohmann too. And your midfielders can't be too slow. I just think they don't need elite speed. It's why I'm pretty keen on Greeves, even though I understand the similarity to Smillie. Sharp I can't say I would have too many complaints about. Robey looks to have the right qualities too as long as he can definitely be a midfielder at AFL level.

We have 3 tortoises in the middle who all cant kick so everyone has become obsessed with getting some lightning speed unicorns. We need guys that can use the ball, don't panic and get up and down the field all day.

 

[KrispyKreme]

3 norms looks easily achievable for Ashcroft. Brisbane will be up top for at least 2 or 3 years more.

I dare say so.

 

[THE THIN MAN]

We have 3 tortoises in the middle who all cant kick so everyone has become obsessed with getting some lightning speed unicorns. We need guys that can use the ball, don't panic and get up and down the field all day.

Speed helps to get the Footy rather than chasing all day.

 

[Punt Road Feral]

Eagles are going Duursma and CDT. Lock it in. Harley is already arranging for Duursma to move in with him

I really hope your right LOTW.

Would be best case scenario for us if they take CDT off the board before pick 3 and leaving some quality mids in the pool.

 

[Mr Magic]

I really hope your right LOTW.

Would be base case scenario for us if they take CDT off the board before pick 3 and leaving some quality mids in the pool.

Lions seemed to have a ruck advantage in this GF clearly

I thought when Scott was bringing in Stanley, before the game, as if this was his best option, like really??


running out of bullets Geelong??

on the flip side, Lions seem better without Hipwood. I reckon Hipwood would struggle to get in even if Allen and Draper does not go there.

Lions win the ruck an Draper going there supposedly, yet Geelong De Kooning, Blicavs, Stanley barren as. This is where makeshift Geelong catching up with them and they should never have won in 22 really. If they never won in 22 some would ask what are they Cats doing? Scott and the Cats like to have their own narrative of course and positive spin

 

[DontArgue4]

Hahahah I’ll ask someone who actually knows that answer instead to find out.

I know ive hung shit on lord of the winge before but ive heard the exact same

The same contact told me Lalor was our #1 pick before the media caught wind

 

[_RT_]

Looking at the Lions midfield I'm starting to think that adding Sharp & Cumming is the way we need to go. A midfield unit of Smillie Sharp McAuliffe with Lalor Hotton Cumming rotating through could be the way forward

 

[SumTingWong]

A later pick for NHH is ideal for me.
Don't know how we get it. But would mean a forward line of

Alger. Armstrong. Hotton
Campbell Faull. NHH

 

[KrispyKreme]

I know ive hung shit on lord of the winge before but ive heard the exact same

The same contact told me Lalor was our #1 pick before the media caught wind

I probably can get away with finding out if Harley wants Duursma to WC but other than that I won’t be able to find out what west coast want.

 

[Morro]

I know ive hung shit on lord of the winge before but ive heard the exact same

The same contact told me Lalor was our #1 pick before the media caught wind

I freakin love this.

 

[Morro]

I probably can get away with finding out if Harley wants Duursma to WC but other than that I won’t be able to find out what west coast want.

Dursma the clear no 1, think we can put that bed.

 

[docko911]

How many players can Richmond rotate through the midfield?

7 is probably the max but not all our players have to rotate through the midfield initially.

You could have 8-11 midfield types in the team covering 2-3 forward positions, 2 wing positions, 3 on-ball and 3 bench. Plus, Prestia won’t play every game and could potentially be dropped late in the year if things are going well. Taranto and Hopper may not play every game.

I don’t think it’s inconceivable that we could have Taranto, Hopper, Smillie, Lalor, Hotton, McAuliffe, Ross/Prestia + 3 x draftees in our team (assuming a couple have pace).

 

[SMILLIE]

Twomey has been running with Duursma and CDT for weeks. Nobody is putting their balls on the line with that mail

 

[Punt Road Feral]

7 is probably the max but not all our players have to rotate through the midfield initially.

You could have 8-11 midfield types in the team covering 2-3 forward positions, 2 wing positions, 3 on-ball and 3 bench. Plus, Prestia won’t play every game and could potentially be dropped late in the year if things are going well. Taranto and Hopper may not play every game.

I don’t think it’s inconceivable that we could have Taranto, Hopper, Smillie, Lalor, Hotton, McAuliffe, Ross/Prestia + 3 x draftees in our team (assuming a couple have pace).

At times yes but we’ll naturally have injuries and niggles with the above mentioned group.

I’m personally happy for TT, Hopper and Prestia to do the donkey work against the big bodied premier sides in the comp and give our kids snippets in games to see the contrast in quality and a taste for it.

 

[4tune8]

We have 3 tortoises in the middle who all cant kick so everyone has become obsessed with getting some lightning speed unicorns. We need guys that can use the ball, don't panic and get up and down the field all day.

This is more correct than people realise.

The efficient speed of ball movement will outpace any player.