List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread (Cont’d)

[Vankri]

I'll take that Checkers was a non factor against the Lions (he was injured though...probably shouldn't have played) but Cox still kicked two and wasn't our worst by any stretch of the imagination. And remember we were right in that game until 9 minutes to go....

Dunno how the youngsters would have gone, they'll get their chance soon enough.

Yep, we didn’t have many winners on the ground that day but Cox was in our top 10, if not closer to top 5. Especially when you consider he got no help from a useless Checkers on the day.

That said, the way it’s playing out right now makes sense. If Buller wasn’t coming in, Cox would be signed. Now it’s a case of maybe getting a year on minimum chips if no one else is interested.

 

[WanderingDude]

We screwed up big time when we traded our 2021 1st round pick to GWS at the end of 2020.
We knew there would be a bid on Nick, but should have held it until the end of the 2021 season.
That way we could have split it into two later picks, matched a bid for Nick, and still had a reasonable draft hand.
Some have said we could have picked up Finn Callaghan as well as Nick, but I think we would have had an earlier bid on Nick instead.
We might still have picked up another good player - Darcy Wilmot went at 16, Kai Lohmann at 20 and Paul Curtis at 35.

Insert rinse here
Insert repeat here
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Well stated but older than me.

 

[sr36]

There’s no science. Majority of the elite mids go in the top few pics. We’d need to be bottom 5 team for access unless f/s or academy like bris and g/c. You mentioned Holmes. Yup he was a good get at 20. Geel also used pick 7 on Clarke who’s likely a bust. Known quantities are worth their weight in gold.

Yep. The recruiters tend to get the mids more accurately than other roles. Not many of the good ones go outside the top dozen picks.

 

[jmac70]

Yep, we didn’t have many winners on the ground that day but Cox was in our top 10, if not closer to top 5. Especially when you consider he got no help from a useless Checkers on the day.

That said, the way it’s playing out right now makes sense. If Buller wasn’t coming in, Cox would be signed. Now it’s a case of maybe getting a year on minimum chips if no one else is interested.

I doubt Cox will get any offers.
I also doubt we will have a list spot for him. The club has plans for the trade period, if they work out, Cox will be off the list.

 

[sr36]

I doubt Cox will get any offers.
I also doubt we will have a list spot for him. The club has plans for the trade period, if they work out, Cox will be off the list.

I think he's a chance as back up ruck.

 

[jmac70]

I think he's a chance as back up ruck.

That would make no sense. Better off with a state league ruck.

 

[Matrix10]

We screwed up big time when we traded our 2021 1st round pick to GWS at the end of 2020.
We knew there would be a bid on Nick, but should have held it until the end of the 2021 season.
That way we could have split it into two later picks, matched a bid for Nick, and still had a reasonable draft hand.
Some have said we could have picked up Finn Callaghan as well as Nick, but I think we would have had an earlier bid on Nick instead.
We might still have picked up another good player - Darcy Wilmot went at 16, Kai Lohmann at 20 and Paul Curtis at 35.

Wilmot would have been a ripper pickup. Pity his old man didn't play another 95 games for us .

 

[Copeland]

Yeah the update is he's not coming to us, move on.

After some ammo to throw at a Bombers supporter

 

[sr36]

Yep, we didn’t have many winners on the ground that day but Cox was in our top 10, if not closer to top 5. Especially when you consider he got no help from a useless Checkers on the day.

He was murdered. The Andrews Cox match up was a complete stuff up.

 

[Vankri]

He was murdered. The Andrews Cox match up was a complete stuff up.

Nope, disagree. He kicked two, our second most SIs and got a couple of clearances of his own on 65% TOG.

He didn’t have Andrews the whole game (who tends to play the whole game and did so against us with 100% TOG). The match up is a catastrophic coaching mistake. Should have been McStay, or Checkers worst case because he was useless otherwise.

If Cox’ role was negator on Andrews, then it’s on the coaches.
If it was your traditional forward-ruck relief role, he did very well in it. As I said, I can count players who won their match ups or performed their actual role on one hand so I would take that output any day of the week, it’s just a shame there was no one else to make the most of the space it should have provided (ahem coaches and ahem Checkers).

 

[sideswipe]

I doubt Cox will get any offers.
I also doubt we will have a list spot for him. The club has plans for the trade period, if they work out, Cox will be off the list.

FFS how many posts do you want to make saying that you think Cox is done?

 

[gouki88]

FFS how many posts do you want to make saying that you think Cox is done?

It’s all an elaborate ploy to drive Domey insane

 

[sr36]

Nope, disagree. He kicked two, our second most SIs and got a couple of clearances of his own on 65% TOG.

He didn’t have Andrews the whole game (who tends to play the whole game and did so against us with 100% TOG). The match up is a catastrophic coaching mistake. Should have been McStay, or Checkers worst case because he was useless otherwise.

If Cox’ role was negator on Andrews, then it’s on the coaches.
If it was your traditional forward-ruck relief role, he did very well in it. As I said, I can count players who won their match ups or performed their actual role on one hand I would take that output any day of the week, it’s just a shame there was no one else to make the most of the space it should have provided (ahem coaches and ahem Checkers).

6 possessions and a couple of lucky goals. The bar certainly gets set low for Big Mase.

 

[gouki88]

6 possessions and a couple of lucky goals. The bar certainly gets set low for Big Mase.

A 100% goal tally increase in one game, incredible!

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

 

[Vankri]

6 possessions and a couple of lucky goals. The bar certainly gets set low for Big Mase.

Well if you’re going to cut their stats we had a team of VFL level players on the ground.

I would have gladly taken another couple of lucky goals from Checkers Schultz Sidey or Beau.

 

[gouki88]

What a debacle some of those top 10 picks in 2016. Ainsworth is alright, but Setterfield, Petrevski-Seton & Will Brodie - yuck

 

[jmac70]

Nope, disagree. He kicked two, our second most SIs and got a couple of clearances of his own on 65% TOG.

He didn’t have Andrews the whole game (who tends to play the whole game and did so against us with 100% TOG). The match up is a catastrophic coaching mistake. Should have been McStay, or Checkers worst case because he was useless otherwise.

If Cox’ role was negator on Andrews, then it’s on the coaches.
If it was your traditional forward-ruck relief role, he did very well in it. As I said, I can count players who won their match ups or performed their actual role on one hand so I would take that output any day of the week, it’s just a shame there was no one else to make the most of the space it should have provided (ahem coaches and ahem Checkers).

In the end, it doesn’t really matter.
Cox is too old and needs to retire.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Hasn't met with clubs his manager reckons!

 

[jmac70]

FFS how many posts do you want to make saying that you think Cox is done?

A lot.

 

[gouki88]

Hasn't met with clubs his manager reckons!

Careful Bailey - if you join Melbourne say goodbye to having hair

 

[manicpie]

What a debacle some of those top 10 picks in 2016. Ainsworth is alright, but Setterfield, Petrevski-Seton & Will Brodie - yuck

Can he play midfield and play it well?

 

[gouki88]

Can he play midfield and play it well?

Ainsworth? He seems to have only ever been a high half forward from memory

 

[manicpie]

Hasn't met with clubs his manager reckons!

WTF are they all doing in the bushes

 

[manicpie]

Ainsworth? He seems to have only ever been a high half forward from memory

Not ideal but I'll take him