Rumour Bluemour Discussion XL - ‘Silly Season’ in full swing 😱

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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[Blue_Fusion]

I've seen enough. Voss isn't the right coach to bring us a premiership.

Why do you think they haven't offered him an extension yet?

They know they're getting rid of him next year unless by some miracle we make finals...

 

[Gavstar]

Where is Voss's accountablilty FFS

 

[Opium]

Come on, the guy didn't make excuses... took accountability for his poor performance and was no doubt hinting that there are players there that can't accept criticism... hence the "don't do it for me and winning doesn't look like blaming each other" stuff...

I will always give credit where it's due and Vossy def spoke well. I know talk is cheap, but in front of everyone at the B&F what was he supposed to do?

fwiw, Rob spoke well too... had an actions speak louder than words message and emphasised that we are a football club first and foremost and that we don't want to be known as "a big business that plays football"...

They've said all the right things imo, now it's time to take action...

Definitely read my feedback on the survey then.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Where is Voss's accountablilty FFS

Did you listen to his speech? The words "I failed" came out of his mouth... he did take accountability...

 

[Gavstar]

Come on, the guy didn't make excuses... took accountability for his poor performance and was no doubt hinting that there are players there that can't accept criticism... hence the "don't do it for me and winning doesn't look like blaming each other" stuff...

I will always give credit where it's due and Vossy def spoke well. I know talk is cheap, but in front of everyone at the B&F what was he supposed to do?

fwiw, Rob spoke well too... had an actions speak louder than words message and emphasised that we are a football club first and foremost and that we don't want to be known as "a big business that plays football"...

They've said all the right things imo, now it's time to take action...

Resigning or sacking is accountability everything else is just words

 

[RoyalBlues]

Careful Opium. The pro Voss brigade are out hunting together and they’re hungry. Eager for more cheap words and no action or results on field.

Or is the Pro- Carlton brigade, which should be all of us, hearing about failings- where responsibility is being taken by captain and coach and moves towards improvement? Surely we all want the best for the Blues next year and beyond.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Definitely read my feedback on the survey then.

Not just yours mate... I ripped into them a beauty too... as I'm sure thousands of others did...

 

[Carltonfc9]

I've seen enough. Voss isn't the right coach to bring us a premiership.

Mate no coach is getting us a flag atm with the culture our players have atm and sacking the coach is going to stroke there egos so much more just thinking knew it wasn't us, can't be us its the coach. About time after failing a year they have to look at the coach in the eyes that they let down last year and just get ****ing better

 

[Opium]

Why do you think they haven't offered him an extension yet?

They know they're getting rid of him next year unless by some miracle we make finals...

My question is why are we keeping him now? Tactically he's not up to it. Now the culture is being bought out in the open. Isn't it the coach who should be galvanising the group and get the players to buy in?

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Resigning or sacking is accountability everything else is just words

Well sacking isn't accountability, that's not in his hands.

Why would he resign? Would you if you were in his spot? Of course not...

Admitting failure in front of the players and staff is def taking accountability... expecting him to announce his departure on B&F night is the stuff of unicorns...

 

[SurreyBlue]

Mate im not full sold on voss but if you think sacking him is magically going to make us better, you would definitely get a job on the board at carlton because sacking the coach has fixed all our problems in the last 30 years hasn't it

People always point to sacking the coach as being the wrong move because it won't fix our problems,
Of course, they are right - but when standards and expectations are a mess and haven't been fixed by a guy that has been there for four years and another longer, then supporters have every right to demand answers.
It's been said many times, but HoF & Senior Coach set the standards and expectation and even the game plan.
Assistant coaches and player leadership execute it, some assistants might even be innovative in game plans, but they are all aligned, including the head coach.
It seems to me Lloyd and Voss have set no standards or expectations, and it's taken a CEO to set it straight.
We hope anyway - proof will be in the pudding but it's poor management off field that has led us to this point.

 

[Opium]

Where is Voss's accountablilty FFS

That's why I can't understand why Wright would come out and endorse Voss for next season. What were the KPIs to warrant keeping him?

 

[SurreyBlue]

My question is why are we keeping him now? Tactically he's not up to it. Now the culture is being bought out in the open. Isn't it the coach who should be galvanising the group and get the players to buy in?

In short, yes. Only GW and the board now, know the answer to this question but we as supporters, certainty do sit here wondering. Let's see.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Mate 2023 is the only season he has had hes best players available to coach same as that run in 2024 other then that we have been absolutely destroyed with injury showing we have a massive lack of depth if they can fix that, watch how quickly it turns for us especially if we can get a healthy year like 2023

I recall us having a near full bill of players at times during 2022 and 2024 too. I also recall us dominating during those patches small windows where our outside runners weren't in the rehab room.

 

[Matty411]

Waiting for news from tonight...

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

That's why I can't understand why Wright would come out and endorse Voss for next season. What were the KPIs?

That's hardly a surprise, you've had it in for Voss for an eternity.

 

[Carltonfc9]

People always point to sacking the coach as being the wrong move because it won't fix our problems,
Of course, they are right - but when standards and expectations are a mess and haven't been fixed by a guy that has been there for four years and another longer, then supporters have every right to demand answers.
It's been said many times, but HoF & Senior Coach set the standards and expectation and even the game plan.
Assistant coaches and player leadership execute it, some assistants might even be innovative in game plans, but they are all aligned, including the head coach.
It seems to me Lloyd and Voss have set no standards or expectations, and it's taken a CEO to set it straight.
We hope anyway - proof will be in the pudding but it's poor management off field that has led us to this point.

Mate are people forgetting we played in a bloody prelim 2 years ago does he take all the credit for that no the players done there part aswell, 2025 we have had a poor year its not all voss the players have to take responsibility aswell and by sacking him, you are telling the players its not you guys its the coach when clearly its on the players aswell

 

[Blue_Fusion]

My question is why are we keeping him now? Tactically he's not up to it. Now the culture is being bought out in the open. Isn't it the coach who should be galvanising the group and get the players to buy in?

This has been mentioned a few times already but there are so many things from the outside in we don't know still...

• Perhaps they tried to convince horse or Simmo and they didn't want to do it
• Optics of sacking another coach
• Has 12 months, so we don't have to pay him out
• perhaps better suitors for the role will be available end of next year
• perhaps the assistants were the crux of the problem

My take is simple, allow him to finish his contract, we will most likely not renew him next year when we finish bottom 6. We can then start fresh with a new coach sought after by GW and CD this time...

Next year will be about starting to build our culture and not only set standards... but hold those accountable who don't meet them every time they set foot in that club and on game day. We will be a very attractive proposition for a coach like Hickmott or Skipworth for example.

 

[thegreatbeast]

Waiting for news from tonight...

Wickzki

YOU PROMISED US!!!!!

(not really, but this is what I live for in the offseason.....)

 

[Opium]

That's hardly a surprise, you've had it in for Voss for an eternity.

I call it as I see it. He can't coach and now the culture of the place is stuffed. All under his watch.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Mate are people forgetting we played in a bloody prelim 2 years ago does he take all the credit for that no the players done there part aswell, 2025 we have had a poor year its not all voss the players have to take responsibility aswell and by sacking him, you are telling the players its not you guys its the coach when clearly its on the players aswell

My children know the standards and expectations I've set in my house.
We made a prelim on the back of the players vowing to give there all for a short period of time. That one historic point in time tells me it was a ship without a captain steering.

 

[Gavstar]

My question is why are we keeping him now? Tactically he's not up to it. Now the culture is being bought out in the open. Isn't it the coach who should be galvanising the group and get the players to buy in?

Once is ok, this is twice at two different clubs a pattern of clubs playing groups being broken under him as head coach.

 

[Wickzki]

Wickzki

YOU PROMISED US!!!!!

(not really, but this is what I live for in the offseason.....)

I hope it's because we've grown up as a club and don't have to make false promises.

I was genuinely surprised that we had nothing tonight.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I call it as I see it. He can't coach and now the culture of the place is stuffed. All under his watch.

Culture was far worse under the coaches before him and ultimately he can't control some petulant cry babies like Jack walking out the door for more coin.

I don't think Voss is a great coach (and he may well be a crap one for all we know) but I have, and still do, blame the list and high performance team more than the coaches. List has been extraordinarily imbalanced and relied on half a dozen hyper injury prone outside players to be fit and healthy to unlock out our best footy.

When they've all been on the park we've played some outstanding football. Unfortunately that just never happened for more than a couple of weeks at a time most years.

 

[Tjblues]

Resigning or sacking is accountability everything else is just words

Ridiculous comment.

It’s actually a perfect example of what Voss spoke about and a lack of resilience. You are advocating for quitting when it gets hard.

Of course we need more than just words. But it’s October, what do you want them to do?