Rumour Bluemour Discussion XL - ‘Silly Season’ in full swing 😱

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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None of this draws a conclusion as to the accuracy or otherwise of the original post.

There is no need to further speculate. What will be will be.

Also, you need to remember that this thread like all parts of this forum is bound by the rules of poster conduct. If you want to express skepticism towards a rumour that's fine, but having a crack at posters who are contributors to this forum is simply not on and will be acted upon.

Simply put, don't be a dick.

Thanks all!

 

[Blue and Silver]

Apparently some clubs have asked about Jade Gresham

11

Jade Gresham

Age

28

Ht

177cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

7.2

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.5

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.4

5star

G

0.4

3star

.

Wouldn't be surprised if that's us. We are clearly into HFF types right now

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Thinking about the Walsh, Butters, Walker, Smith on ball brigade in 2027

 

[bradfisher14]

Apparently some clubs have asked about Jade Gresham.

Wouldn't be surprised if that's us. We are clearly into HFF types right now

Surprised there hasn't been more talk about him moving, given the rumours going around.

Wouldn't be opposed to bringing him in if it's for a nothing pick and Essendon are willing to pay a decent chunk of his salary.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Apparently some clubs have asked about Jade Gresham.

Wouldn't be surprised if that's us. We are clearly into HFF types right now

I’d rather Ainsworth.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Yeh but that just swings the power way too far the other way so it will never happen.
ATM clubs can ask players to leave and players can ask clubs to leave and neither can get what they want without the other agreeing.

Here's a radical idea.

Every draftee gets an 8-yr contract. Trades can only be initiated by clubs.

During the first 4 years, the club can trade the player to any other club, but cannot delist the player.
(This gives new players more surety and time in the league, but gives clubs the ability to move a young player on for maximum return)

During years 5-8 if a trade is initiated the player can specify a state, with their club then able to either secure a deal with a club in that state or, if no suitable deals are tabled, can elect to retain the player. Clubs can delist players from year 5 onwards, but the player gets a 6 month pay-out to assist with their transition back into real life.
(This gives players moderate agency early in their career to facilitate (in particular) moves back to their home state, but provides the clubs with the ability to secure a reasonable deal or retain the player based on their needs. The payout would sit outside the salary cap

From year 9 onwards, players attain free agency and can move to a club of their choice on a contract negotiated with said club. For the duration of that contract, if the club elects to initiate a trade then the player can nominate a club, and either a trade deal is reached with that club or they remain where they are.

As I said...radical. Would probably need some major work on how pay would be structured during years 1-8. But I reckon as a vague model it gives clubs suitable power, gives players security and scaling agency, and gives contracts appropriate value whereby a player who elects to sign a contract from Year 9 onwards is expected to abide by it - sign short term if you want flexibility, or long term if you want security, but you don't get both.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

I know one rumour that’s true about Jade, he can’t football

 

[SolGoodman]

I know one rumour that’s true about Jade, he can’t football

Not true, he can football, but only every sixth game a season.

 

[thegreatbeast]

Apparently some clubs have asked about Jade Gresham.

Wouldn't be surprised if that's us. We are clearly into HFF types right now

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Whenever this thread hears about a possible trade for anyone even remotely approaching a big name, it goes nuts.

I'm constantly 15 pages behind, ploughing through every poster's carefully thought out permutations of what we should accept from Sydney for Charlie in a trade.

And then they insist on repeating themselves, just in case their point might have been overlooked.

 

[RAPPA]

I know one rumour that’s true about Jade, he can’t football

If he lands at Carlton he will have completed the merry go round of the modern day rabbles of Saints, Bombers and Carlton

 

[DrTrain]

If we can’t move pick 10 to next year maybe we trade with WCE for 13 34 and Chesser. Then 34 for BA and 40 for Buku.

 

[Blue and Silver]

I’d rather Ainsworth.

Rankings wise:

Hayward
Ainsworth
Gresham

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Not every trade nets you a flag.

Thanks for being obtuse.

Now ask yourself why we didn't get a flag, ney, we didn't even get close to a flag...

So why sell the farm for Butters now?

 

[bradfisher14]

I’d rather Ainsworth.

We need more than one small forward.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Albury or Wodonga?

Actually Tarcutta is about half way. But realistically you'd go to Holbrook , get a ham and salad roll at the bakery and meet them at the submarine park. Can't imagine that anybody could say no to you in that scenario.

 

[Will_Hayward]

To no flag... thanks for proving my point...

That wasn't the only factor. Other issues, such as injuries and poor recruitment, were why we failed.

 

[katmanblue]

Don’t let any Bummer fans steal it!!!

Don't worry I'll flog em off

 

[Lukeblueboy]

An overall hall of the following:

Butters/humphrey, Ainsworth, Haywood, buku, chesser and reidy.

Not bad imo

 

[zeggie]

Here's a radical idea.

Every draftee gets an 8-yr contract. Trades can only be initiated by clubs.

During the first 4 years, the club can trade the player to any other club, but cannot delist the player.
(This gives new players more surety and time in the league, but gives clubs the ability to move a young player on for maximum return)

During years 5-8 if a trade is initiated the player can specify a state, with their club then able to either secure a deal with a club in that state or, if no suitable deals are tabled, can elect to retain the player. Clubs can delist players from year 5 onwards, but the player gets a 6 month pay-out to assist with their transition back into real life.
(This gives players moderate agency early in their career to facilitate (in particular) moves back to their home state, but provides the clubs with the ability to secure a reasonable deal or retain the player based on their needs. The payout would sit outside the salary cap

From year 9 onwards, players attain free agency and can move to a club of their choice on a contract negotiated with said club. For the duration of that contract, if the club elects to initiate a trade then the player can nominate a club, and either a trade deal is reached with that club or they remain where they are.

As I said...radical. Would probably need some major work on how pay would be structured during years 1-8. But I reckon as a vague model it gives clubs suitable power, gives players security and scaling agency, and gives contracts appropriate value whereby a player who elects to sign a contract from Year 9 onwards is expected to abide by it - sign short term if you want flexibility, or long term if you want security, but you don't get both.

Will never happen re: draftees whilst the AFL EBA is what it is. Both clubs and players have asked previously for some of the above, but AFL wont agree as the draftees pay would need to increase astronomically to get that over the line with the AFL Players and association.

 

[zeggie]

Now ask yourself why we didn't get a flag, ney, we didn't even get close to a flag...

So why sell the farm for Butters now?

Look at the Carlton playing squad in 2008.

Look at the Carlton playing squad in 2025.

Let us know if you notice any differences.

 

[katmanblue]

It should be so easy for them, and yet...

If they published a rulebook, they'd have to abide by them.

 

[I bleed Blue]

Once SOS was gone it all stopped…I reckon Barass70 was SOS himself

Barass was someone close to SOS

He had a huge blow up on this board when SOS was moved on.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Apparently some clubs have asked about Jade Gresham.

Wouldn't be surprised if that's us. We are clearly into HFF types right now

He's slow. We are obsessed with average speed forwards.

 

[branedotorg]

Apparently some clubs have asked about Jade Gresham.

Wouldn't be surprised if that's us. We are clearly into HFF types right now

hope not, he's been very poor for for the bombers, i'd only be looking to his lil brother in the rookie draft

 

[charred_fate]

Rankings wise:

Hayward
Ainsworth
Gresham

Needs more ‘daylight’