Rumour Bluemour Discussion XL - ‘Silly Season’ in full swing 😱

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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Thanks all!

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

The 11th hour swoop that started last November ???

Totally. JSOS manager has been offering him around the league since early this year.

 

[The Defender]

People should get comfortable with Charlie moving.

He has little ability to think for himself and is pissed at our approach … mainly fuelled by his DH agent.

SDK to St Kilda is possible and would open up options for Charlie to end up Geelong which is his preference.

Saints also into De Geoy in a big way.

More likely Marshall for SDK.

 

[carlton_99]

People should get comfortable with Charlie moving.

He has little ability to think for himself and is pissed at our approach … mainly fuelled by his DH agent.

SDK to St Kilda is possible and would open up options for Charlie to end up Geelong which is his preference.

Saints also into De Geoy in a big way.

I still don't see how Cats can get Curnow. Their picks this year and into the future just aren't valuable.

 

[Rosscoe 17]

8 years later? Very long bow to draw there

so you are saying new recruits sign 8 year contracts

 

[Blue__Balls]

People should get comfortable with Charlie moving.

He has little ability to think for himself and is pissed at our approach … mainly fuelled by his DH agent.

SDK to St Kilda is possible and would open up options for Charlie to end up Geelong which is his preference.

Saints also into De Geoy in a big way.

How on earth does SDK to St Kilda help Geelong land Charlie?

St Kilda's current draft hand is 50 + 65.
Geelong's current draft hand is 19 + 40 + 60 + 79.

Marshall and future first for SDK?
Geelong try to get Charlie for 19 + StK future first? We wouldn't even dignify them with a laugh before hanging up the phone.

If Charlie goes, it's Sydney for a few picks and players, or GC come to the party with Humphrey. Geelong have next to nothing to work with, other than players they don't want to trade or players we don't want.

 

[Blue__Balls]

so you are saying new recruits sign 8 year contracts

Clearly he's saying if you're getting them before the 8 year mark then they're not...as you suggested..."free".

 

[JimmyRabbit49]

What's the gap in valuation? Trade or contract? I would imagine the former.


Lock-down key defender with a n elite leap vs athletic medium defender/forward.

Hearing the gap was in trade.

Lock down defender frees up Weitering - I reckon we have enough medium defenders with Cowan. Carroll, Haynes, Kemp & McGovern plus Dean

 

[Blue__Balls]

Is Aleer a "lockdown" defender though? Seems much more in the loose intercept, playing on an athletic second/third tall kind of mold.

 

[circusdevil]

Would our fitness test for an incoming KPP be to see if Jacob is happy to fist bump them?

 

[marcmurphy3]

Is Aleer a "lockdown" defender though? Seems much more in the loose intercept, playing on an athletic second/third tall kind of mold.

He's more of a 2nd or 3rd tall, beat his man and intercept type. No chance he gets the number 1 forward ahead of Weitering.

 

[Uncle Fester]

More likely Marshall for SDK.

why does geelong do this?

 

[Soapy V]

Come on Austin get chesser and buku done please

They will be done. Sitting waiting on pick changes and what may happen with Charlie and Ainsworth etc then it will all fall into place

 

[Rosscoe 17]

Clearly he's saying if you're getting them before the 8 year mark then they're not...as you suggested..."free".

Don’t they become free agents after 3 years? Furthermore who is going to want to burn a pick on a player with his heart set on another club.

Definitely risky but not as ridiculous as suggested.

 

[circusdevil]

Can we sell Charlie to GWS?

Aleer, Gruzewski and Hannaford/Gothard would be a good package.

 

[Big Delut]

Don’t they become free agents after 3 years? Furthermore who is going to want to burn a pick on a player with his heart set on another club.

Definitely risky but not as ridiculous as suggested.

Players don't become free agents until they've been at a club for 8 years unless they're delisted.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

If Charlie is so “desperate” to get out why has he still not officially asked for a trade??

 

[NavySteel]

They will be done. Sitting waiting on pick changes and what may happen with Charlie and Ainsworth etc then it will all fall into place

Any word on an A-grade swap for Charlie or are we resigned to picks only (+ Buku and Chesser)?

 

[Lukeblueboy]

They will be done. Sitting waiting on pick changes and what may happen with Charlie and Ainsworth etc then it will all fall into place

Are u hearing any noise around the Charlie deal soap and what it may or may not consist of?

 

[The Defender]

why does geelong do this?

Not saying straight swap, crying out for a decent ruck, Blicavs plays back.

 

[Coops93]

is this the ****ing Saints board? Who cares what they do.

I've always found the % of posts about St Kilda on this board to be unusually high. The amount of attention, and slander, given to them is odd.

 

[Benaly28]

People should get comfortable with Charlie moving.

He has little ability to think for himself and is pissed at our approach … mainly fuelled by his DH agent.

SDK to St Kilda is possible and would open up options for Charlie to end up Geelong which is his preference.

Saints also into De Geoy in a big way.

Why would we be involved in any transaction that benefits saint kilda if the end result for us is astronomical?

 

[Blue__Balls]

Don’t they become free agents after 3 years? Furthermore who is going to want to burn a pick on a player with his heart set on another club.

Definitely risky but not as ridiculous as suggested.

Not sure which sport you're thinking of, but it's not AFL. 8 years of continuous service at one club to qualify for free agency. For example, even Mitch McGovern isn't a free agent - 3 years at the Crows, traded to Carlton, 7 seasons with us. He's now out of contract but not a free agent unless we delist him.

They're only contracted for 3 years as an early draft pick, and they could request a trade any time, but we'd have to cough up picks to satisfy their club or have them delist themselves when their contract ends and walk into the Pre-Season draft where anyone below us on the ladder could take them.

If we want them, we cough up in their draft year, not play games and hope to get them 3+ years later at a slight discount if the club who took them is willing to play nice.

 

[bluesinsider358]

Butters went out for dinner with Chris Davies and Michael Voss last night.

 

[Coops93]

Maybe he CAN train.

But he can't:
1. Play AFL quality football
2. Chase or apply pressure
3. Maintain AFL standards in fitness or behaviour
4. Hold a first 23 spot in one of the worst sides put on the field (early 2020s North Melbourne)

Also, I hate him.

He looked like a superstar early for Collingwood, then fell away quickly. Lots of off-field issues and he buckled under the pressure. Not sure how much, more how little, you can attribute to his time at North, it's no secret they've been a poorly run club for a while so that could be part of it in terms of the lack of structure to support him.

Some time off to sort out his issues, fall back in love with the game, then go to a club with better support framework he could be a decent value pick up as a SSP.

 

[BlueLocke]

If Charlie is so “desperate” to get out why has he still not officially asked for a trade??

We've had Merrett basically giving his farewell speech at the B&F after some pretty spiteful words directed his way by fellow members of their leadership group, Petrecca and Oliver have formally requested trades and then Curnow, who hasn't said anything publicly nor been directly sighted meeting with other clubs. The small amount of public commentary from Cincotta (who had been delisted and could've unleashed) and Cripps merely stated they like(d) playing with Curnow and hope he stays.

I think the lack of request is absolutely a positive if a trade can't be reached; I'm looking forward to Merrett having to walk back into a very awkward locker room at Windy Hill.