Delisted Callum Ah Chee - Joins Adelaide via the PSD

[Crow till I die]

 

[Jbudds04v2]

Can't even argue on Bigfooty these days without AI slop ruining it.

What happened to the love of the game?

What happend to discussing RESTRAINT OF TRADE?

What happened to ACCEPT THE OFFER OR WE'LL SEND HIM TO THE PSD?

Can you put the slop away and try find joy in life? Do you need a languge learning model built off copyright violation and theft to tell you HOW TO ARGUE ABOUT AFL PLAYER TRADES?????

Really sorry, how about this one?

Critical Assessment of Value

• Limited impact profile: Despite playing regularly, Ah Chee has never established himself as a consistent match‑winner or core driver of team success. His role has been more complementary than central.
• List fit concerns: Adelaide already has younger, developing players who can cover wing, half‑back, and forward roles. Bringing in a 27‑year‑old who doesn’t fill a pressing list gap could be seen as redundant.
• System player, not system driver: His premierships with Brisbane can be framed as the product of a strong team environment rather than individual influence.
• Contract leverage: He has nominated Adelaide as his preferred destination. That strips Brisbane of bargaining power — if no deal is reached, he could walk through the pre‑season draft.

Trade Implications

Adelaide could argue:

• Ah Chee is not worth a second‑round pick, nor even a third‑rounder.
• Brisbane should attach a late pick sweetener to move him, effectively paying Adelaide to take on a player they no longer see as central to their best 22.
• The framing: “We’re absorbing the risk of a long‑term deal for a depth player. If you want to ensure he doesn’t walk for nothing, you need to incentivise us.”

Bottom Line

Ah Chee’s trade value is negative — Adelaide should only consider him if Brisbane packaged him with a pick upgrade or late‑round compensation. The logic is that his on‑field impact doesn’t justify giving up draft capital, and Brisbane’s lack of leverage means they should be the ones paying to make the deal happen.

 

[iBeng]

In what world is Cal worth a pick in the 40s?!

Adelaide fans wanting an easy win.

 

[Tom14]

Really sorry, how about this one?

Critical Assessment of Value

• Limited impact profile: Despite playing regularly, Ah Chee has never established himself as a consistent match‑winner or core driver of team success. His role has been more complementary than central.
• List fit concerns: Adelaide already has younger, developing players who can cover wing, half‑back, and forward roles. Bringing in a 27‑year‑old who doesn’t fill a pressing list gap could be seen as redundant.
• System player, not system driver: His premierships with Brisbane can be framed as the product of a strong team environment rather than individual influence.
• Contract leverage: He has nominated Adelaide as his preferred destination. That strips Brisbane of bargaining power — if no deal is reached, he could walk through the pre‑season draft.

Trade Implications

Adelaide could argue:

• Ah Chee is not worth a second‑round pick, nor even a third‑rounder.
• Brisbane should attach a late pick sweetener to move him, effectively paying Adelaide to take on a player they no longer see as central to their best 22.
• The framing: “We’re absorbing the risk of a long‑term deal for a depth player. If you want to ensure he doesn’t walk for nothing, you need to incentivise us.”

Bottom Line

Ah Chee’s trade value is negative — Adelaide should only consider him if Brisbane packaged him with a pick upgrade or late‑round compensation. The logic is that his on‑field impact doesn’t justify giving up draft capital, and Brisbane’s lack of leverage means they should be the ones paying to make the deal happen.

If that is your own, pure human slop then fine! I can respect terrible opinions, I've had a million of them myself.

If not?

 

[mpal6]

Never paid fair value? That makes no sense lol. Just look at last year - we traded a future 2nd for a contracted Neil-Bullen, and the deal was done within the first couple of days of trade week. If that wasn’t fair value, why didn’t Melbourne wait, ask for more, or keep him? You’ve been insinuating that because we’re on top, we suddenly need to start paying more - and when asked to back it up, you change your tune. Your backpedaling is hilarious.

So what doesn't suit you is subjective and irrelevant. Your dreamed up argument is the only one matters. I never changed my tune mate, seems like you hear voices in your head too? funny shit.

 

[bigman]

No club would give pick 16 for an out of contract Ah Chee. No reason for us to be bullied into it. Future second and the earliest of our thirds this year is enough.

 

[mpal6]

Your club traded pick 5 & Jack Crisp for Dayne Beams only to give him back to Collingwood a few years later for a packet of chips. Does that mean you're not a well run club either?

The Brisbane Lions have traded Dayne Beams to Collingwood. In exchange for Beams and Pick No. 41 and 44, the Lions receive Pick No. 18, 56 and a future first-round pick from the Magpies.

I know you don't understand fair value at all but 2 firsts deemed as chips is a new low even for you.

 

[mpal6]

No club would give pick 16 for an out of contract Ah Chee. No reason for us to be bullied into it. Future second and the earliest of our thirds this year is enough.

Your future second is in late 30s. You will never be able to draft Ah Chee with that pick even in open draft. Someone would've picked him up in 20s and he'll be gone. What you are offering is unders and you know it.

 

[Slim258]

As stated before, he had a contract in front of him relative to the rest of the team. the Crom have turned his head with a contract big enough to prize him out, and so the Lions should be adequately compensated.

Compensated for not paying him his worth? An average AFL contract of 5 years at $650-700k?

What would that get you in FA compensation?
Probably a late second rounder.

 

[Elixuh]

Your club traded pick 5 & Jack Crisp for Dayne Beams only to give him back to Collingwood a few years later for a packet of chips. Does that mean you're not a well run club either?

Hey hey hey stop trying to help Tom argue his own points. You’re meant to be arguing against him. Not making his points for him.

 

[GenericUsername202]

No club would give pick 16 for an out of contract Ah Chee. No reason for us to be bullied into it. Future second and the earliest of our thirds this year is enough.

And no club would give away Ah Chee for a pick in the late 30's or early 40's.

 

[Elixuh]

Really sorry, how about this one?

Critical Assessment of Value

• Limited impact profile: Despite playing regularly, Ah Chee has never established himself as a consistent match‑winner or core driver of team success. His role has been more complementary than central.
• List fit concerns: Adelaide already has younger, developing players who can cover wing, half‑back, and forward roles. Bringing in a 27‑year‑old who doesn’t fill a pressing list gap could be seen as redundant.
• System player, not system driver: His premierships with Brisbane can be framed as the product of a strong team environment rather than individual influence.
• Contract leverage: He has nominated Adelaide as his preferred destination. That strips Brisbane of bargaining power — if no deal is reached, he could walk through the pre‑season draft.

Trade Implications

Adelaide could argue:

• Ah Chee is not worth a second‑round pick, nor even a third‑rounder.
• Brisbane should attach a late pick sweetener to move him, effectively paying Adelaide to take on a player they no longer see as central to their best 22.
• The framing: “We’re absorbing the risk of a long‑term deal for a depth player. If you want to ensure he doesn’t walk for nothing, you need to incentivise us.”

Bottom Line

Ah Chee’s trade value is negative — Adelaide should only consider him if Brisbane packaged him with a pick upgrade or late‑round compensation. The logic is that his on‑field impact doesn’t justify giving up draft capital, and Brisbane’s lack of leverage means they should be the ones paying to make the deal happen.

There’s a greater than zero chance this Adelaide poster is the Deloitte guy who ‘wrote’ that report for the Commonwealth using AI.

 

[GenericUsername202]

In what world is Cal worth a pick in the 40s?!

Adelaide fans wanting an easy win.

Considering their shit finals campaign, i don't blame them. The problem is, they're a side that is used to folding to better clubs.

 

[bigman]

Your future second is in late 30s. You will never be able to draft Ah Chee with that pick even in open draft. Someone would've picked him up in 20s and he'll be gone. What you are offering is unders and you know it.

Then combine the two picks to move up the order if that works better.

There are no guarantees in football, we could drop out of the eight next year and it’s a pick in the 20s.

A first rounder is ridiculous, I’m sorry. In fact I’m not sure why Lions supporters are discussing it.

28 and OOC, not a star. If Ben Ainsworth were a premiership player, would you say he should cost a first rounder despite being OOC?

ANB was a premiership player too (and played a great grand final). Regular in their bnf. It’s absolutely a good comparison.

 

[Elixuh]

Then combine the two picks to move up the order if that works better.

There are no guarantees in football, we could drop out of the eight next year and it’s a pick in the 20s.

A first rounder is ridiculous, I’m sorry. In fact I’m not sure why Lions supporters are discussing it.

28 and OOC, not a star. If Ben Ainsworth were a premiership player, would you say he should cost a first rounder despite being OOC?

ANB was a premiership player too (and played a great grand final). Regular in their bnf. It’s absolutely a good comparison.

What Adelaide does next year is irrelevant to us. The valuing is based on the Crom taking out the minor premiership this year. That’s instructive as to form next year.

 

[briztoon]

You’ve already got enough Annable points, what’s the point of getting 16 (even as an upgrade)

Ridley.

 

[Elixuh]

Then combine the two picks to move up the order if that works better.

There are no guarantees in football, we could drop out of the eight next year and it’s a pick in the 20s.

A first rounder is ridiculous, I’m sorry. In fact I’m not sure why Lions supporters are discussing it.

28 and OOC, not a star. If Ben Ainsworth were a premiership player, would you say he should cost a first rounder despite being OOC?

ANB was a premiership player too (and played a great grand final). Regular in their bnf. It’s absolutely a good comparison.

Ben Ainsworth is not as good as Cal and is primarily a cap dump by GCS to bring in Petracca.

Ainsworth was on some crazy $$ relative to output.

 

[bigman]

And no club would give away Ah Chee for a pick in the late 30's or early 40's.

Out of contract reduces your bargaining power significantly.

Why would the crows give up pick 16 for him? He’s not the difference between winning or losing a flag next year. We targeted him because he’s a victim of your pursuit of two blokes who will cost near 900k each next year, plus OOC and a role player, so he’s a smart buy without the need to overpay in collateral.

We don’t have to sell the farm for him.

Crows fans would much rather miss out on him than give up pick 16. We still have a list to build.

 

[GenericUsername202]

Out of contract reduces your bargaining power significantly.

Why would the crows give up pick 16 for him? He’s not the difference between winning or losing a flag next year. We targeted him because he’s a victim of your pursuit of two blokes who will cost near 900k each next year, plus OOC and a role player, so he’s a smart buy without the need to overpay in collateral.

We don’t have to sell the farm for him.

Pick 16 in an awful draft isn't exactly selling the farm. Plus, after academy picks, etc, it would become 18-19 or something like that. I would argue that you wouldn't find someone better in this years draft in that range then Ah Chee. Tbh, I do think pick 16 is slightly high, however, it's a hell of a lot closer to Ah Chee's value then a pick in the late 30's or early 40's. I would value Ah Chee's value around the early 20's.

 

[bigman]

Pick 16 in an awful draft isn't exactly selling the farm. Plus, after academy picks, etc, it would become 18-19 or something like that. I would argue that you wouldn't find someone better in this years draft in that range then Ah Chee.

Awful draft except for a strong South Australian contingent.

There will be many locals taken in the top 30 this year, something we would be well aware of.

 

[daniel_4tw]

The only thing worse than reading fans from two different clubs argue about a players value that have absolutely no say in what the trade will be, is reading AI slop.

Let’s not normalize posting ChatGPT on BigFooty.

 

[Crouch]

So what doesn't suit you is subjective and irrelevant. Your dreamed up argument is the only one matters. I never changed my tune mate, seems like you hear voices in your head too? funny shit.

Your continued defiance is staggering. You literally implied that we should now 'pay fair value' due to our ladder position. Your own words. I'm not making shit up. Either show evidence of others doing the same and back up your claim or stfu.

 

[1970crow]

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The most important prize is below. The finals are just a small separate competition for a largely meaningless trophy. We’d already tasted ultimate success weeks earlier. We could have won finals too, but when you’ve won the home and away there’s partying to do.

 

[Crow till I die]

Lets wind it down people..its haggling on a forum over a draft pick. We (crows) think it won't involve a 1st,Brisbane fans think it will. If it does end up a 1st, I will be the first to drop back at the end of trade period and put my hand up and say we were done over congratulations Brisbane. But I don't think that scenario will eventuate and I( say it will be our F2 and we will include a 3rd rounder or it will involve later pick swaps on top of our f2

 

[mpal6]

Your continued defiance is staggering. You literally implied that we should now 'pay fair value' due to our ladder position. Your own words. I'm not making shit up. Either show evidence of others doing the same and back up your claim or stfu.

Finally you've stated what I said as fair value (for once) rather than twisting it to "which club has overpaid due to ladder position".

Stick to fair value than overpaid and we are sweet. Or else bugger off mate.

 

[Crouch]

Finally you've stated what I said as fair value (for once) rather than twisting it to "which club has overpaid due to ladder position".

Stick to fair value than overpaid and we are sweet. Or else bugger off mate.

Now you're going in circles lol. What is considered 'fair value' and 'overpaid' is subjective and irrelevant. Back up your claims or bugger off mate.