Rumour Bluemour Discussion XL - ‘Silly Season’ in full swing 😱

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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Thanks all!

 

[lily of laguna]

I really hope Lij stays - and not just because his skill set is exactly what we need. Made some mistakes but few don’t at 23 - we want them to be consummate professionals and forget what babies they are. Most people that age are not Sam Walsh - I certainly wasn’t and now I’m a senior exec at an asx 50 company. He’ll come good with proper leadership and mentoring and I’d like to think a professional football club could figure that out and make it happen.

Agree, life lessons and all that.
If he fails to grasp the opportunity his contract finishes and it doesn’t get renewed until then work with him.

 

[ctwenty1]

You can’t change the past and the decisions made when not clear of mind..

Man up CFC, give the guy a chance to see out his contract and support him through to the end..

The question is not for CFC to man up

That question is for Lij

 

[2ndeffort]

1 year contracts for the rest of his career.

Problem with that is if he turns it around and is flying, someone else will come in, offer him the world and after helping him through his dramas we'll be left with nothing

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Problem with that is if he turns it around and is flying, someone else will come in, offer him the world and after helping him through his dramas we'll be left with nothing

That's the risk.
I'd back us to manage it.

 

[katmanblue]

Best thing about having Wright and Davies is that they won’t give Williams a 2 year minimum money deal like the club did with Gov. Williams will be gone in 12 months in a clean break.

Williams on minimum wage would be smart list management.

 

[lily of laguna]

1 year contracts for the rest of his career.

Maybe for a couple of years but if he has genuinely changed after that and is a great player he has redeemed himself and gets a longer deal - hypothetically speaking of course

 

[The_BigFella]

Best thing about having Wright and Davies is that they won’t give Williams a 2 year minimum money deal like the club did with Gov. Williams will be gone in 12 months in a clean break.

Don’t agree. Zac had a good season last year. Especially when he has bursts in the midfield. We beat the Dogs if he doesn’t get injured. If he stays mostly injury-free next year, I’d offer a short-term deal on reduced money for sure.

 

[kingkingston]

We'll finally be rid of Williams' ridiculous contract too end of 2026...

He has had good form since playing forward.

 

[Soapy V]

Can we try and get in players under the age of 25 ? Florent and Rowbottom and picks is a disaster .

We are looking to fill 22-28 year age gap. Both these fill that and are best 23 players. I reckon Rowbottom is massively underrated

 

[The Bighouse]

The question is not for CFC to man up

That question is for Lij

2-way street, yes but without support from the top to see his contract through then there’s nothing he can do.

He’s trying isn’t he..? Back at training. Off the drink. Settling off-field?

Let him know that’s it’s up until the MSD and if the agreed terms aren’t met, it’s catch ya later.

 

[gbatman]

Maybe for a couple of years but if he has genuinely changed after that and is a great player he has redeemed himself and gets a longer deal - hypothetically speaking of course

Can never be trusted again, a long contract could bring in complacency and give him a licence to **** up again. Not going to give him the protection of a contract and the opportunity to do that. Take the one year contract for the rest of your career or be traded.

Problem with that is if he turns it around and is flying, someone else will come in, offer him the world and after helping him through his dramas we'll be left with nothing

Great, then we finally get something and get something potentially good for him as opposed to getting nothing for him this year.

 

[lily of laguna]

If this club is to get better it has to stop giving chop outs to guys based on their talent or if they fill a need for us, and if it has to start with Elijah then so be it.

He’s not the only one this applies to.

I get the support piece, but there’s a minimum standards piece here as well and personal responsibility is a part of that.

Get your point and if it was upsetting the player group to have him around I could understand, but it seems (and I have no idea) that Walsh and quite a few others want him to stay!

 

[katmanblue]

Not really.
In 2018 he signed a four year contract on very good money for the high potential he displayed since his debut season in 2016. He got injured midway through 2019 and basically didn’t play for 2 years.
One of the setbacks was due to injury he sustained playing basketball when he should have been rehabbing, which id imagine would not have been part of the the rehabilitation program the club set and paid for him to overcome his injury.
We also sent and paid for him to see various medical specialists in Australia and overseas during his rehabilitation.
His first full year back was 2022 and he was excellent but we immediately offered him a 6 year deal on very good money.
Fact. Not opinion…in my opinion.

Don't forget redrafting Ed, with the pick before that Richmond lad that tore us a new one Round 1 this year, just to get him to sign.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

He has had good form since playing forward.

Yeah sorry but his "good form" is nowhere near to the level of the $ he's on... not even close!

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Don't forget redrafting Ed, with the pick before that Richmond lad that tore us a new one Round 1 this year, just to get him to sign.

Yep, and said player was linked to us leading into the draft that year

 

[Blue_Fusion]

ohhh noo Pommy....

 

[ctwenty1]

Yeah sorry but his "good form" is nowhere near to the level of the $ he's on... not even close!

Agree

Happy for Williams to say but need sit be on reduced $ to match his output

Another player taht is injured too mich

 

[Chism]

We are looking to fill 22-28 year age gap. Both these fill that and are best 23 players. I reckon Rowbottom is massively underrated

I agree but unless the Swans offer Heeney or Gulden this board aint gunna be happy.

 

[lily of laguna]

Can never be trusted again, a long contract could bring in complacency and give him a licence to f#ck up again. Not going to give him the protection of a contract and the opportunity to do that. Take the one year contract for the rest of your career or be traded.


Great, then we finally get something and get something potentially good for him as opposed to getting nothing for him this year.

Pretty harsh stance.
Trust is hard to win and easily broken but if someone proves they have changed over a significant period of time they should be celebrated and admired in life not just footy.

 

[kingkingston]

Yeah sorry but his "good form" is nowhere near to the level of the $ he's on... not even close!

Their salary is irrelevant. They are all paid good money now. Judging players on only salary is pretty shallow.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Their salary is irrelevant. They are all paid good money now. Judging players on only salary is pretty shallow.

You're surely taking the piss here...

 

[kingkingston]

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ohhh noo Pommy....

We would want more

 

[ctwenty1]

Pretty harsh stance.
Trust is hard to win and easily broken but if someone proves they have changed over a significant period of time they should be celebrated and admired in life not just footy.

Whatever the club ultimately do I will back them in as I expect they will know the situation best

If he is let go then I will not be at all surprised and ultimately it will be for the better of the club

 

[kingkingston]

You're surely taking the piss here...

Not at all. Salaries have got to the point where no player can live up to how much they make. I focus on the years of a contract instead.

 

[lily of laguna]

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ohhh noo Pommy....

Pommy is fixated with draft picks.
The club has made it clear we don’t just want numbers on a page but some talented player/s too.
That deal for us is not that appealing