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Petracca did due diligence, he met with Adelaide and Gold Coast. Once deciding, Gold Coadt doubled down and got to workSo like I said - you can say that hawks didn't offer enough, that's fine - but smart clubs would prefer picks because they can convert those to the players they actually want, or use them to adapt their draft strategy. Getting players as part of these trades is just opportunism - it is dumb to make it your trade strategy.
Melbourne is a good example. Even though they were losing their midfield (Petracca and Oliver) they didn't faff aroudn with GC and GWS grandstanding to make them include players. They did painless pick trades (including sending some second rounders back to GC) and then went and got Heath, CJ, Steele and Mihocek in SEPARATE trades targeting players that acutally suited them.
Melbourne had a very smart trade period and turned the negative of two key players leaving into a genuine reset of their squad. Well done Melbourne. Carving their own path. Very active and doing all that they can to improve in 2026. Reckon they'll do ok
Furthermore, the trades that didn’t get done were players wanting one club only.Petracca did due diligence, he met with Adelaide and Gold Coast. Once deciding, Gold Coadt doubled down and got to work
Hawthorn postured for weeks with a low ball offer and then tried to strong arm Essendon with a dumb ‘deadline’ suggesting it was it but looked foolish by coming back in with more.
If Zac was so keen to get out, like Curnow, like Trac he’d have nominated multiple clubs but it seemed Hawthorn were the ones who wanted him, trying (and failing) to use that as leverage to lowball Essendon
He quit. Essendon is unprofessional. Program is not elite. Standards are low. He wants success. Essendon cannot offer that. yada yadaWhat were the reasons reported by the way?
Were they reported or just suggestions?He quit. Essendon is unprofessional. Program is not elite. Standards are low. He wants success. Essendon cannot offer that. yada yada
Then there was the AFLW team and his teammates ratting on him.
I'm sure he feels very loved![]()
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They are bad too.Yeah I get it hawks bad, what about the 16 other teams
Petracca did due diligence, he met with Adelaide and Gold Coast. Once deciding, Gold Coadt doubled down and got to work
Hawthorn postured for weeks with a low ball offer and then tried to strong arm Essendon with a dumb ‘deadline’ suggesting it was it but looked foolish by coming back in with more.
If Zac was so keen to get out, like Curnow, like Trac he’d have nominated multiple clubs but it seemed Hawthorn were the ones who wanted him, trying (and failing) to use that as leverage to lowball Essendon
It being a nothing story is worse. Your footy club is white-anting their own player over a nothing storyWere they reported or just suggestions?
The AFLW story was shown to be a nothing story fwiw
1000% I will, he'll be wearing the red and black so why wouldn't I..Will you be cheering him on friend?
Keep going with the personal insults, champ.This is so dumb.
If you're the club losing the quality player and you refuse to trade unless you get a quality player from that team it's a tiny pool of options. There's maybe 3 or 4 guys that would be a potential of being available and wanting to move clubs if your'e lucky.
If you take the picks instead you have currency and options to approach literally any club in the entire league with those picks (possibly 30-40 across the league) and find a quality player that acutally suits your list.
Or you can convert those picks into other/future picks as part of whatever future drafting strategy you've got and whatever other conversations you've got going.
There is much more freedom for the receiving club if they get a swathe of picks.
Those demanding that Hawthorn give up a player aren't actually wanting to see a quality player go to Essendon, they just want to see Hawthorn pay a more painful price. But a smart club sees a firtful of picks as a convertable currency. A dumb club says "do our recruitment for us"
Now it's fine to say that the total of 3/4 first rounders isn't enough - but to demand a player be part of the trade is real neanderthal stuff.
So like I said - you can say that hawks didn't offer enough, that's fine - but smart clubs would prefer picks because they can convert those to the players they actually want, or use them to adapt their draft strategy. Getting players as part of these trades is just opportunism - it is dumb to make it your trade strategy.
Melbourne is a good example. Even though they were losing their midfield (Petracca and Oliver) they didn't faff aroudn with GC and GWS grandstanding to make them include players. They did painless pick trades (including sending some second rounders back to GC) and then went and got Heath, CJ, Steele and Mihocek in SEPARATE trades targeting players that acutally suited them.
Melbourne had a very smart trade period and turned the negative of two key players leaving into a genuine reset of their squad. Well done Melbourne. Carving their own path. Very active and doing all that they can to improve in 2026. Reckon they'll do ok
HeyaIt being a nothing story is worse. Your footy club is white-anting their own player over a nothing story
He does. Thanks for being so concerned.He quit. Essendon is unprofessional. Program is not elite. Standards are low. He wants success. Essendon cannot offer that. yada yada
Then there was the AFLW team and his teammates ratting on him.
I'm sure he feels very loved![]()
Speaking of smart clubs and dumb clubs, I think a real intelligent aspect of Gold Coast's trade period was facilitating moves of quality players like Ainsworth and Flanders to other clubs to build a draft hand with which they could chase Petracca with assets that Melbourne wanted. Do you know if Hawthorn looked at doing this?This is so dumb.
If you're the club losing the quality player and you refuse to trade unless you get a quality player from that team it's a tiny pool of options. There's maybe 3 or 4 guys that would be a potential of being available and wanting to move clubs if your'e lucky.
If you take the picks instead you have currency and options to approach literally any club in the entire league with those picks (possibly 30-40 across the league) and find a quality player that acutally suits your list.
Or you can convert those picks into other/future picks as part of whatever future drafting strategy you've got and whatever other conversations you've got going.
There is much more freedom for the receiving club if they get a swathe of picks.
Those demanding that Hawthorn give up a player aren't actually wanting to see a quality player go to Essendon, they just want to see Hawthorn pay a more painful price. But a smart club sees a firtful of picks as a convertable currency. A dumb club says "do our recruitment for us"
Now it's fine to say that the total of 3/4 first rounders isn't enough - but to demand a player be part of the trade is real neanderthal stuff.
Bold, planning to Bradbury their way to the next premiershipThey are bad too.
What do you mean genuine top 10 picks? Didnt you hear? Hawks offered pick 22, its a genuine first round pick.Keep going with the personal insults, champ.
Comments were a general observation that picks alone may not suffice in trades, given the compromised drafts.
Your argument makes even less sense. It's a simple equation: You want quality, you have to pay for quality. Clubs may no longer accept a bunch of secondary picks as opposed to genuine top 10 picks.
In your feeble attempt to get the upper hand, you are conflating the reality of the marketplace with your biased opinion of what is smart and what is dumb. And you accuse me of emotional nonsense.
I look forward to your next round of condescending personal remarks.
Jog on thanks.
Roberts, Caldwell, Martin, CaddyWho are your Hodge Mitchell Lewis Rough and Buddy equivalent players ?
Roberts, Caldwell, Martin, Caddy
They need to find Buddy 2.0.
Carn man. If you are going to quote me, at least come up with something worthy of my time.Bold, planning to Bradbury their way to the next premiership
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Fella you forgot where you are, you quoted me back on post 12548. You gonna elaborate how Essendon improve or recruit or you just wasting my time?Carn man. If you are going to quote me, at least come up with something worthy of my time.
Abasi, have a word with him please.
You sure did, struggling with short term memory, no wonder you can't answer a simple question.I quotes you on post 12548? Settle down Rainman!
None of that is relevant to what I said.Petracca did due diligence, he met with Adelaide and Gold Coast. Once deciding, Gold Coadt doubled down and got to work
Hawthorn postured for weeks with a low ball offer and then tried to strong arm Essendon with a dumb ‘deadline’ suggesting it was it but looked foolish by coming back in with more.
If Zac was so keen to get out, like Curnow, like Trac he’d have nominated multiple clubs but it seemed Hawthorn were the ones who wanted him, trying (and failing) to use that as leverage to lowball Essendon
How many times does this need to be explained? The Hawkes board is perpetually misinformed.He quit. Essendon is unprofessional. Program is not elite. Standards are low. He wants success. Essendon cannot offer that. yada yada
Then there was the AFLW team and his teammates ratting on him.
I'm sure he feels very loved![]()