Delisted Callum Ah Chee - Joins Adelaide via the PSD

[Crow till I die]

 

[1990crow]

For context, Alex Neal-Bullen was under contract and traded for pick 28.

Ah Chee is out of contract and we offered a future second and a future third.

So an equivalent, if not better offer, for a similar player in terms of age, ability and experience, who was out of contract.

And ANB finished top3 in Melbourne's best and fairest. Ah Chee outside the 10.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

More importantly the thread is all about ah chee

Where will he end up?

Thats a very good question. I can see WCE, Port, Essendon and Carlton all having genuine interest in him, but I'm not sure any will want to upset the apple cart too much especially with 3 of them having highly rated NGA and F/S prospects over the next few years that they'll be relying on teams not bidding early on to acquire.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Hmmm... I'm not seeing where I used this word. Either way, a 2nd rounder and a favourable pick slide is more than fair for a bloke who almost won a Norm Smith medal last year.

The Dogs were asking for a similar price for Buku Khamis ffs. Ah Chee is a class player.

Ironic you called my post which wasn't incorrect a fib, then countered it with an actual fib!

Bottom line is no club thought Ah Chee is worth using a 1st rounder, including a slide... so Lions lose an uncontracted player for nothing in the PSD.

The facts speak for themselves!

 

[Dom PC]

Ironic you called my post which wasn't incorrect a fib, then countered it with an actual fib!

Bottom line is no club thought Ah Chee is worth using a 1st rounder, including a slide... so Lions lose an uncontracted player for nothing in the PSD.

The facts speak for themselves!

Correction. Your club thought it wasn't worth sliding.

If you're going to be "factual", don't make it sound like 16 other clubs would have done an Adelaide to Ah Chee.

 

[1990crow]

Correction. Your club thought it wasn't worth sliding.

If you're going to be factual, don't make it sound like 16 other clubs would have done an Adelaide to Ah Chee.

The entire industry suggests they wouldn't have. It's only Brisbane fans.

Might be time for some self reflection.

 

[Dom PC]

The entire industry suggests they wouldn't have. It's only Brisbane fans.

Might be time for some self reflection.

The amount of hyperbole spoken by Adelaide fans in this thread is remarkable. It's quite telling really.

 

[1990crow]

The amount of hyperbole spoken by Adelaide fans in this thread is remarkable. It's quite telling really.

It's only Brisbane's side that's ignoring reality.

 

[Dom PC]

It's only Brisbane's side that's ignoring reality.

Offering a fat 5 year contract to a reigning 2x premiership player and getting him to commit to you and then expecting a late 30s pick to cut the mustard in a trade... which club base is ignoring reality here.

 

[Soggy2112]

Thats a very good question. I can see WCE, Port, Essendon and Carlton all having genuine interest in him, but I'm not sure any will want to upset the apple cart too much especially with 3 of them having highly rated NGA and F/S prospects over the next few years that they'll be relying on teams not bidding early on to acquire.

I have posted a number of fairly equivalent trades, none of which involve first round picks.

If at any point someone could provide a comparable trade that does include a first round pick to justify why Adelaide should have, feel free to do so.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Correction. Your club thought it wasn't worth sliding.

If you're going to be "factual", don't make it sound like 16 other clubs would have done an Adelaide to Ah Chee.

You are delusional if you think Ah Chee was ever going involve a 1st rounder from any club.

Similar uncontracted players have fetched a 2nd rounder.

We were offered a 2nd & 3rd rounder & Lions got greedy, so lose him for nothing.

The facts speak for themselves.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Offering a fat 5 year contract to a reigning 2x premiership player and getting him to commit to you and then expecting a late 30s pick to cut the mustard in a trade... which club base is ignoring reality here.

We were offering a pick in the 20's or a future 2nd & 3rd rounder.

If you are you are going to whinge, at least get your facts right!

 

[Mutineer]

The amount of hyperbole spoken by Adelaide fans in this thread is remarkable. It's quite telling really.

 

[NeverEddie]

Well we did just pick cotton..i mean indy cotton as a cat b player

I'll pay that

 

[ABAB]

Hmmm... I'm not seeing where I used this word. Either way, a 2nd rounder and a favourable pick slide is more than fair for a bloke who almost won a Norm Smith medal last year.

The Dogs were asking for a similar price for Buku Khamis ffs. Ah Chee is a class player.

And Carlton didn't give that as a fair value is a 3rd rounder for him, just like everyone is saying a fair value for Ah Chee is a 2nd rounder. Twomey was "shocked" Brisbane did do the trade. using your argument Cox played a PF against Richmond in comparison to his career, is he worth a 1st rounder????

 

[lionsrules]

That Dom is a real prick hmmph !

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

And Carlton didn't give that as a fair value is a 3rd rounder for him, just like everyone is saying a fair value for Ah Chee is a 2nd rounder. Twomey was "shocked" Brisbane did do the trade. using your argument Cox played a PF against Richmond in comparison to his career, is he worth a 1st rounder????

...Huh??

 

[crowman2]

Thats a very good question. I can see WCE, Port, Essendon and Carlton all having genuine interest in him, but I'm not sure any will want to upset the apple cart too much especially with 3 of them having highly rated NGA and F/S prospects over the next few years that they'll be relying on teams not bidding early on to acquire.

Yes there could be a number of clubs pay the price he has put on his head

It seems interesting Ben Williams comments and how he feels he will be playing at Adelaide

He may have already courted those clubs for their interest in him

He clearly wants a payday to see out his career and there is nothing wrong with that buddy did it GAJ did it

 

[ABAB]

...Huh??

What???? Your argument is Ah Chee kicked 4 goals in the Grand Final which was a lot more than his career average, Cox did the same in the PF against Richmond so did you also think Cox is worth a 1st rounder had Collingwood traded him then??? Carlton didn't overpaid for an uncontracted player so we did the same and both players are going to the PSD and will end at their nominated clubs with Bulldogs and Brisbane getting nothing.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

What???? Your argument is Ah Chee kicked 4 goals in the Grand Final which was a lot more than his career average, Cox did the same in the PF against Richmond so did you also think Cox is worth a 1st rounder had Collingwood traded him then??? Carlton didn't overpaid for an uncontracted player so we did the same and both players are going to the PSD and will end at their nominated clubs with Bulldogs and Brisbane getting nothing.

Mason Cox pulling one elite game out of his arse in a final didn't change that he was practically useless 90% of his career. Completely different situations, Ah Chee is a genuinely good player who can play a variety of roles for Brisbane as well as performing in big games.

As for the Buku business, Carlton didn't have the time or picks to sort out a deal as we were deep into negotiations with Sydney over Curnow. He's also contracted so will be back at the Dogs next year.

 

[ABAB]

Mason Cox pulling one elite game out of his arse in a final didn't change that he was practically useless 90% of his career. Completely different situations, Ah Chee is a genuinely good player who can play a variety of roles for Brisbane as well as performing in big games.

As for the Buku business, Carlton didn't have the time or picks to sort out a deal as we were deep into negotiations with Sydney over Curnow. He's also contracted so will be back at the Dogs next year.

No wonder they asked for a 2nd rounder given he was contracted. Ah Chee isn't contracted and is a good role player, similar to ANB who was traded for pick 28 while contracted at the same age just last year. As Twomey said, he was "shocked" Brisbane didn't do the trade as it was reasonable, it wasn't like we offered a 3rd rounder.

 

[blueiris]

More importantly the thread is all about ah chee

Where will he end up?

No it isn’t the thread has been how crom think not giving a fair trade

 

[blueiris]

And ANB finished top3 in Melbourne's best and fairest. Ah Chee outside the 10.

ANB isn’t a dual premiership player Cal was actually playing injured for most of the season

 

[blueiris]

You are delusional if you think Ah Chee was ever going involve a 1st rounder from any club.

Similar uncontracted players have fetched a 2nd rounder.

We were offered a 2nd & 3rd rounder & Lions got greedy, so lose him for nothing.

The facts speak for themselves.

With 10 minutes to go your Manager added a 3rd round pick which are useless picks now

 

[blueiris]

We were offering a pick in the 20's or a future 2nd & 3rd rounder.

If you are you are going to whinge, at least get your facts right!

You didn’t offer a pick inside 25 which most people thought was a fair trade

 

[Soggy2112]

Offering a fat 5 year contract to a reigning 2x premiership player and getting him to commit to you and then expecting a late 30s pick to cut the mustard in a trade... which club base is ignoring reality here.

This argument doesn’t work though because the opposite is also true. Brisbane offered a salary that undervalued him in order to bring in Draper and Allen, but still wanted to demand a high price at the trade table.

The only valid way to work out his trade value is to look at the precedents that have been set. Again I can’t find one that supports the argument that Adelaide should have been compelled to include a first rounder in the deal.