Remove this Banner Ad

Bendigo FL discussion 2026

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Great to see real journalism, Coates League is outdated. Where has westy been, this story has been right under hes nose.

It has to dismantled this year, where's dillon, where's madigan? We need solutions not just head in the sand
I may be wrong but I assume ‘ Talent ‘ pathways are aligned to the AFL comp itself and therefore the AFL clubs oversee talent pathway, albeit that it is not sold that way .
As opposed to it being solely under the jurisdiction of state bodies like AFL Vic .
 
Last edited:
I may be wrong but I assume ‘ Talent ‘ pathways are aligned to the AFL comp itself and therefore the AFL clubs talent pathway, albeit that it is not sold that way .
As opposed to it following under state bodies like AFL Vic .
I’ve read your statement three times - I’ve no idea what you are trying to say 😕
 
Read a good article today about the Coates Leauge - you’d have to say it’s gone soon. Can’t happen soon enough. Will stop hundreds of parents thinking they may have Patrick Cripps under their roof . It provides false hope and it hurts every club in the country.
Its not false hope unless you have a very skewed opinion of your own child. You think of all of the very strong opinions you have on the league, the administration and the talent ( and they are all welcomed in my thinking) but if you arent aware if your son/daughter isnt at draft level when they are 16-18 there can be no false hope
 

Log in to remove this Banner Ad

Its not false hope unless you have a very skewed opinion of your own child. You think of all of the very strong opinions you have on the league, the administration and the talent ( and they are all welcomed in my thinking) but if you arent aware if your son/daughter isnt at draft level when they are 16-18 there can be no false hope
Not one pio was drafted, under 10 kids from country Victoria, thwts 200 kids travelling thousands of kilometres for the year, interrupting year 12 studies for what? For under 10 kids? There has to be a better way to do things. That system is over 30 years old now
 
Not one pio was drafted, under 10 kids from country Victoria, thwts 200 kids travelling thousands of kilometres for the year, interrupting year 12 studies for what? For under 10 kids? There has to be a better way to do things. That system is over 30 years old now
Thankyou ! Identify the top 100 from the bush, get them into Melbourne where they have all the best facilities and programs. Let little Johnny who is a decent player just play local footy and if he’s a late bloomer and stands out then have a crack at VFL. There you go AFL I just saved you a few million !
 
I may be wrong but I assume ‘ Talent ‘ pathways are aligned to the AFL comp itself and therefore the AFL clubs oversee talent pathway, albeit that it is not sold that way .
As opposed to it being solely under the jurisdiction of state bodies like AFL Vic .
AFL Academy is picked by clubs expressing interest in a said player. Overseen by AFL.

Coates Talent League is the AFL Vic Talent Pathway and managed by AFL Vic. Each state is responsible for its own junior system.

The various “Clubs” represent various regions and players are drawn from the clubs within that specified area.

They run Under 16 and Under 18 programs with lead in programs for Under 15 players (V Line Cup)

Many kids that end up in the Metro sides are country kids offered scholarships as 15 year olds to Xavier, Caulfield Grammar or whatever and end up in the APS system which appears to have taken over the Coates League due to the more intense nature of the competition.
 
Thankyou ! Identify the top 100 from the bush, get them into Melbourne where they have all the best facilities and programs. Let little Johnny who is a decent player just play local footy and if he’s a late bloomer and stands out then have a crack at VFL. There you go AFL I just saved you a few million !
How/Who identifies the 100? Do the big clubs like Sandhurst still gee their quota or is there a science to it? The bush is a big area with lots of schools and they will want a say!! I said it last week - best players get drafted almost always no matter what.
 
I'd be interested in viewing the CTL article you mention Crazymaggy2020

As much as it's a field of passion and genuine interest, I'm of the belief that yes the current model is tired and not performing as it once did and/or was initially intended to do.
Maybe it's a cycle, maybe it's how and why we're identifying, forming and coaching our squads but unless the powers that be (TM's/Coaches/ CTL staff etc) speak up the AFL don't need to intervene.

Your region is the toughest in the state to navigate, so why can't the region be offered a bit more support to pay a few to get the squads appropriate, perhaps even offer reduced fee's to help offset other family expense.
You'll never get what you don't ask for.

The SANFL/WAFL model has always held up - perhaps AFL club U19's may be the go?
Have just spent 7-8 days in Perth, caught up with a couple of football contacts over there and to hear how they do different things was impressive.
Young men with licenses, part time jobs and another year of life skills controlling their own destiny, whilst (for us) leaving their local country clubs as their nominated home could still work.

Draft age can be 18yo, but some form of U19 comp may be better in Victoria (kids driving already elsewhere) as the 2025 world is a 24/7 life, far from the way we (and parents/kids) lived even a decade ago.

That way resources, coaches etc are of a better standard, and those in charge of sourcing and compiling lists are appropriately remunerated and certainly wouldn't come at current cut/paste/parent/mates of mates ways some regions are going about it.

Personally, I'd hate to see 100 country kids taken to the city year after year without trying to fix every region first - imagine losing 4-500 kids over a sustained period who may never play locally again.

Unless of course the current competition ceases, then it becomes something else completely and a free for all.

No right or wrongs here, its a topic (football) we all love, but I personally watch a (bloody) lot of private school, pathway and local/state league and it's not a statewide issue.
Let's not cloud local based angst towards the Bendigo League and the Pioneer's as an "everywhere issue" because it's not.

Apologies, been a long day on the computer - 27 job applications and I'm on a touch type roll here ha ha

BTW if anyone got anything going hit a brother up - who knows I might do some footy for free if employment can be obtained ;)
 
Last edited:
I'd be interested in viewing the CTL article you mention Crazymaggy2020

As much as it's a field of passion and genuine interest, I'm of the belief that yes the current model is tired and not performing as it once did and/or was initially intended to do.
Maybe it's a cycle, maybe it's how and why we're identifying, forming and coaching our squads but unless the powers that be (TM's/Coaches/ CTL staff etc) speak up the AFL don't need to intervene.

Your region is the toughest in the state to navigate, so why can't the region be offered a bit more support to pay a few to get the squads appropriate, perhaps even offer reduced fee's to help offset other family expense.
You'll never get what you don't ask for.

The SANFL/WAFL model has always held up - perhaps AFL club U19's may be the go?
Have just spent 7-8 days in Perth, caught up with a couple of football contacts over there and to hear how they do different things was impressive.
Young men with licenses, part time jobs and another year of life skills controlling their own destiny, whilst (for us) leaving their local country clubs as their nominated home could still work.

Draft age can be 18yo, but some form of U19 comp may be better as the 2025 world is a 24/7 life, far from the way we (and parents/kids) lived even a decade ago.

That way resources, coaches etc are of a better standard, and those in charge of sourcing and compiling lists are appropriately remunerated and certainly wouldn't come at current cut/paste/parent/mates of mates ways some regions are going about it.

Personally, I'd hate to see 100 country kids taken to the city year after year without trying to fix every region first - imagine losing 4-500 kids over a sustained period who may never play locally again.

Unless of course the current competition ceases, then it becomes something else completely and a free for all.

No right or wrongs here, its a topic (football) we all love, but I personally watch a (bloody) lot of private school, pathway and local/state league and it's not a statewide issue.
Let's not cloud local based angst towards the Bendigo League and the Pioneer's as an "everywhere issue" because it's not.

Apologies, been a long day on the computer - 27 job applications and I'm on a touch type roll here ha ha

BTW if anyone got anything going hit a brother up - who knows I might do some footy for free if employment can be obtained ;)
All the regions are too large, the trwvel is too great, thats for every country Coates League sides.

We need better coaches in the country senior clubs to develop players. Only the oandm has that currently.

Id get the best 25 kids in Australia in Canberra and play vfl, get a few ex players to coach and play and it gets rid of trwvel and it gives a year to get over home sickness before the draft. Id up the age of the draft after the first round to 19, play under 23 interleague and create 2 additional country vfl teams and promote young guys to play vfl and major league footy, by having zones to top up vfl lists.
 
All the regions are too large, the trwvel is too great, thats for every country Coates League sides.

We need better coaches in the country senior clubs to develop players. Only the oandm has that currently.

Id get the best 25 kids in Australia in Canberra and play vfl, get a few ex players to coach and play and it gets rid of trwvel and it gives a year to get over home sickness before the draft. Id up the age of the draft after the first round to 19, play under 23 interleague and create 2 additional country vfl teams and promote young guys to play vfl and major league footy, by having zones to top up vfl lists.
Some regions too large perhaps, as are squad sizes but I assume with every kid who trials there's a cost, meaning 100+ paying something becomes 45-50-60 paying something more once squads are set.

All options worthy of conversation and consideration at this stage I reckon.

As long as it's in the best interests of football at all levels then any debate is a chance to learn, understand challenges and/or advantages and grow going forward with unity.
 
AFL Academy is picked by clubs expressing interest in a said player. Overseen by AFL.

Coates Talent League is the AFL Vic Talent Pathway and managed by AFL Vic. Each state is responsible for its own junior system.

The various “Clubs” represent various regions and players are drawn from the clubs within that specified area.

They run Under 16 and Under 18 programs with lead in programs for Under 15 players (V Line Cup)

Many kids that end up in the Metro sides are country kids offered scholarships as 15 year olds to Xavier, Caulfield Grammar or whatever and end up in the APS system which appears to have taken over the Coates League due to the more intense nature of the competition.
I understand that AFL Vic carries at the work within Vic Talent pathways but I’m pretty confident that AFL Clubs , via AFL Talent provide direction or strong indication on what they’d like pathways to look like / to be .
 

Remove this Banner Ad

I understand that AFL Vic carries at the work within Vic Talent pathways but I’m pretty confident that AFL Clubs , via AFL Talent provide direction or strong indication on what they’d like pathways to look like / to be .
If that’s the case…they’ve done nothing for 30 years other than encourage Private Schools to takeover the development system. AFL Vic’s record of achievement over the same period is equally impressive.
 
If that’s the case…they’ve done nothing for 30 years other than encourage Private Schools to takeover the development system. AFL Vic’s record of achievement over the same period is equally impressive.
AFL took over as /acquired the role of the governing body of Australian Rules Football in 1995 .
Many share a view that having the premier / elite competition govern the sport has been to the detriment of the sport at grassroots level roots / community level .
 
I'd be interested in viewing the CTL article you mention Crazymaggy2020

As much as it's a field of passion and genuine interest, I'm of the belief that yes the current model is tired and not performing as it once did and/or was initially intended to do.
Maybe it's a cycle, maybe it's how and why we're identifying, forming and coaching our squads but unless the powers that be (TM's/Coaches/ CTL staff etc) speak up the AFL don't need to intervene.

Your region is the toughest in the state to navigate, so why can't the region be offered a bit more support to pay a few to get the squads appropriate, perhaps even offer reduced fee's to help offset other family expense.
You'll never get what you don't ask for.

The SANFL/WAFL model has always held up - perhaps AFL club U19's may be the go?
Have just spent 7-8 days in Perth, caught up with a couple of football contacts over there and to hear how they do different things was impressive.
Young men with licenses, part time jobs and another year of life skills controlling their own destiny, whilst (for us) leaving their local country clubs as their nominated home could still work.

Draft age can be 18yo, but some form of U19 comp may be better in Victoria (kids driving already elsewhere) as the 2025 world is a 24/7 life, far from the way we (and parents/kids) lived even a decade ago.

That way resources, coaches etc are of a better standard, and those in charge of sourcing and compiling lists are appropriately remunerated and certainly wouldn't come at current cut/paste/parent/mates of mates ways some regions are going about it.

Personally, I'd hate to see 100 country kids taken to the city year after year without trying to fix every region first - imagine losing 4-500 kids over a sustained period who may never play locally again.

Unless of course the current competition ceases, then it becomes something else completely and a free for all.

No right or wrongs here, its a topic (football) we all love, but I personally watch a (bloody) lot of private school, pathway and local/state league and it's not a statewide issue.
Let's not cloud local based angst towards the Bendigo League and the Pioneer's as an "everywhere issue" because it's not.

Apologies, been a long day on the computer - 27 job applications and I'm on a touch type roll here ha ha

BTW if anyone got anything going hit a brother up - who knows I might do some footy for free if employment can be obtained ;)
It’s on the Goulburn league page
 
All this makes me think we should go back to the days when clubs had zones
Let each club take a metro and regional area and they are responsible for running development in that area with school visits clinics etc and they have first pick of any players in those areas
Bring back the under 19s and picking players straight out of clubs to replace injuries during the season
For those of us old enough to remember it was a pretty good system
 
TBH, I think the AFL seem to be pretty content to let the private school thing just organically take over. That way it’s the schools, not the AFL, providing all the resources, and the clubs don’t have to look beyond metropolitan Melbourne and Geelong for recruitment. It’s by far the cheapest and easiest model for them. The AFL has long been run by private school boys with precisely zero interest in, or understanding of, country footy. There really needs to be a revolution across country footy landscape, or it’s going to slowly die out.
 

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

TBH, I think the AFL seem to be pretty content to let the private school thing just organically take over. That way it’s the schools, not the AFL, providing all the resources, and the clubs don’t have to look beyond metropolitan Melbourne and Geelong for recruitment. It’s by far the cheapest and easiest model for them. The AFL has long been run by private school boys with precisely zero interest in, or understanding of, country footy. There really needs to be a revolution across country footy landscape, or it’s going to slowly die out.

Someone told me recently that if you take girls out of the participation figures there is only 70% of the junior numbers to current numbers of senior players
So if there are 100 players in seniors and reserves in the country there’s only 70 juniors coming through but the kicker is of that 70 there’s a big drop off by seniors so the reality is more like 40%
If nothing changes there will likely be a 60% reduction in the number of open age teams over the next 20 years or so
 
Someone told me recently that if you take girls out of the participation figures there is only 70% of the junior numbers to current numbers of senior players
So if there are 100 players in seniors and reserves in the country there’s only 70 juniors coming through but the kicker is of that 70 there’s a big drop off by seniors so the reality is more like 40%
If nothing changes there will likely be a 60% reduction in the number of open age teams over the next 20 years or so
I wouldn’t think that could be correct in counting all juniors . There is a shit load of kids playing 14 years and under .
 
All this makes me think we should go back to the days when clubs had zones
Let each club take a metro and regional area and they are responsible for running development in that area with school visits clinics etc and they have first pick of any players in those areas
Bring back the under 19s and picking players straight out of clubs to replace injuries during the season
For those of us old enough to remember it was a pretty good system
Good points Jack...I will reiterate that each AFL Club should have their own Academy. Draft from within that and then be able to draft from other club Academies if they overlook their own.
 
I wouldn’t think that could be correct in counting all juniors . There is a shit load of kids playing 14 years and under .

That’s a good example there’s 24 under 14 teams in the Bendigo junior league including two teams Rochester and Maryborough who do not have senior teams in the area
So there’s 22 junior teams and there’s how many senior sides in the three leagues feeding off it? 26 with two teams each?
Even if you keep half those kids to senior level you are in big trouble and in my experience you are lucky to keep a handful from that age group
 
That’s a good example there’s 24 under 14 teams in the Bendigo junior league including two teams Rochester and Maryborough who do not have senior teams in the area
So there’s 22 junior teams and there’s how many senior sides in the three leagues feeding off it? 26 with two teams each?
Even if you keep half those kids to senior level you are in big trouble and in my experience you are lucky to keep a handful from that age group
The under 14’s is a 2 or 3 year age bracket. Seniors probably closer to 15-16 year age group.
 

Remove this Banner Ad

Bendigo FL discussion 2026

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Back
Top