Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

Opposition supporters coming to troll , you have been warned

 

[ossie_21]

I know I might be in the minority, but I’d be very happy to see Jamarra succeed at the Suns.

Part of me agrees with this, but Jesus ****ing Christ it’s annoying to see comments from an experienced player saying he’s blown away from JUH wanting to “train as hard as he can”, merely months from not even wanting to train, AT ALL. (apparently)

I just want the honest truth and answers - were we wanting him away from the club & that’s why he wasn’t training? Just ****ing tell us what the go was, that’s all I want.

 

[DognBones]

I know I might be in the minority, but I’d be very happy to see Jamarra succeed at the Suns.

Not I. There is no doubt that he suffered mental issues throughout the year but I can't resist the thought that part of his behaviour was a slap in the face to the club which gave him every measure of support possible. Does that mean that we were taken advantage of irrespective of his mental issues? Possibly. Only Jamarra can look inside himself and answer that one.
I can wish him well on a personal basis and hope that he is recovering from his issues.
However, as an invested WB supporter, I say, if he turns his life and football career around and becomes a star for an opposition club, then I for one will find that quite galling.

 

[maddog37]

I think of all the other players in the squad that juh took for granted and let down time and time again while he was out on the grog with his neck tatt mates.

The blokes with minimal comparative talent that busted their arse every week.

Hard to care what he does either way when we still have those honest, committed players to enjoy.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Part of me agrees with this, but Jesus ****ing Christ it’s annoying to see comments from an experienced player saying he’s blown away from JUH wanting to “train as hard as he can”, merely months from not even wanting to train, AT ALL. (apparently)

I just want the honest truth and answers - were we wanting him away from the club & that’s why he wasn’t training? Just ****ing tell us what the go was, that’s all I want.

Both can be true though. He was able to cruise last year on a standard contract and $800K.

He's now had a massive reality check/wake up call, and is genuinely on his last and only chance. He was about to be sacked. He's now got one last chance on a rookie's salary and a one year deal (yeah it's two but with get out clauses so big you could drive a truck through them - GC could just about sack him for not brushing his teeth). If he doesn't train hard he is gone from AFL for good this time.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Both can true though. He was able to cruise last year on a standard contract and $800K.

He's now had a massive reality check/wake up call, and is genuinely on his last and only chance. He was about to be sacked. He's now got one last chance on a rookie's salary and a one year deal (yeah it's two but with get out clauses so big you could drive a truck through them - GC could just about sack him for not brushing his teeth). If he doesn't train hard he is gone from AFL for good this time.

In other words he has been incentivised. I got the impression he really did not want to leave, but maybe the club realised he needed to hit rock bottom to grasp he had run out of chances. Sitting on another year of his contract with us wouldn’t do that.

 

[Spiritof82]

Not I. There is no doubt that he suffered mental issues throughout the year but I can't resist the thought that part of his behaviour was a slap in the face to the club which gave him every measure of support possible. Does that mean that we were taken advantage of irrespective of his mental issues? Possibly. Only Jamarra can look inside himself and answer that one.
I can wish him well on a personal basis and hope that he is recovering from his issues.
However, as an invested WB supporter, I say, if he turns his life and football career around and becomes a star for an opposition club, then I for one will find that quite galling.

Agree with you, hope he has a long playing career at the Sun's along the lines of the career Charlie Clarke enjoyed with us.

 

[X_box_X]

It would be easier to stomach if JUH has a prosperous Suns career from a personal level but he watches on as we win three flags and he fails to win any. Then, yes, I would be happy for him to have success individually.

 

[DiamondDogs8]

Young Pups

 

[GetDimmaBack]

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What's Rohan Smith's role here?

 

[Norm De Guerre]

What's Rohan Smith's role here?

Its from the "Rohan Smith Academy Camp" in Ballarat.

 

[grassman75]

Losing Sando is not worth getting butters for.

Is that you Ryley?

 

[Doggies7]

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Crofty is TALL. Can see he has a good couple CMs on Smith, Darcy and Emmett. Listed at 201 cms last year, might finish up around the 203-204 cm mark.

 

[JohnnySteel]

Crofty is TALL. Can see he has a good couple CMs on Smith, Darcy and Emmett. Listed at 201 cms last year, might finish up around the 203-204 cm mark.

Very probable considering his twin is around 208 currently.

 

[DiamondDogs8]

Very probable considering his twin is around 208 currently.

It is essential that he retires from volleyball and joins as a Cat B rookie

 

[JohnnySteel]

It is essential that he retires from volleyball and joins as a Cat B rookie

Agreed. We better be working on luring him over in the next few years.

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

I still think there's a big role for Sanders in this team if he can tweak a few things and improve another 5% this off-season. We haven't drafted another pure mid in the last two drafts now including the MSD, so while it is a congested rotation with the old boys still playing well, you saw with Freijah there are rotation minutes available if you can and grab them.

He was drafted as a blue chip, ball winning, huge possession mid and has had some really nice games here and there. I remember he looked really good to start last season kicking goals and improving his running patterns before falling off a little late. Reports are he's been the last one out on the training track already this pre-season and looks in good nick, he's serious about his footy so I'm very interested to see how he fits in next year and if he can be a part of the next midfield brigade with Ed and Freijah. The Tassie jungle drums are beating loudly and Butters is obviously a chance, but while he's here, there's a pretty big gap from the Libba, Treloar, Bont group down to he and Joel to push into that midfield and stamp his name on this team.

He’s as likely as anyone on our list to have a breakout year… fingers crossed

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

It's too early though he will likely be solid at least. It's stupid to judge either way at this point, just like all those numpties saying who "won' the draft.

Those judging Sanders harshly are probably basing it on what was paid to get him rather than the fact we also got Croft

Croft!! now’s there’s a player that could be anything… how good were those 2 grabs he took in his debut game this year. Some serious x factor

 

[weltschmerz]

Croft!! now’s there’s a player that could be anything… how good were those 2 grabs he took in his debut game this year. Some serious x factor

Still think he could make a great backman.

 

[doggie dog]

As a Melbourne wokester, never been much of a drinker. Expensive way to not remember much.

 

[Pencil case]

Croft!! now’s there’s a player that could be anything… how good were those 2 grabs he took in his debut game this year. Some serious x factor

Still have some major doubts about Croft but was glad to see him perform well at AFL level for those two games. Hopefully he can continue to be the reverse Schache. Hopeless in the VFL but a star at AFL level.

 

[Doggy]

Still have some major doubts about Croft but was glad to see him perform well at AFL level for those two games. Hopefully he can continue to be the reverse Schache. Hopeless in the VFL but a star at AFL level.

Yeah, but you already have Sanders as a superstar so..

 

[DognBones]

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I really like this photo because it sends strong signals of two important concepts that we supporters need for the coming season : excitement and hope.
I am excited by the talent that some of these young players have already shown and by the potential of the new additions to our list. The talent ranges across a variety of different roles and skill sets.
The hope is what they can achieve for our club in the future as they develop. Obviously, they won't all succeed in the AFL environment but I'm confident that many will be very good footballers for a long time and contribute to our sustained success.
A most uplifting photo!

 

[bobs head soup]

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A lot of blokes are understandably bitter when they are moved on as a coach and are detached from the club.

Not Rohan Smith.

Bleeds red, white and blue.

Champion.

 

[MaxiBont]

Still have some major doubts about Croft but was glad to see him perform well at AFL level for those two games. Hopefully he can continue to be the reverse Schache. Hopeless in the VFL but a star at AFL level.

Croft showed much improved VFL form before his AFL debut

 

[DueWest]

Still have some major doubts about Croft but was glad to see him perform well at AFL level for those two games. Hopefully he can continue to be the reverse Schache. Hopeless in the VFL but a star at AFL level.

Right, major doubts about a 200cm+ player who had various injuries in first two years, played a couple of games and showed a fair bit in those ?

Last 200+ cm player you had those major doubts on after year two must have been Darcy