Unsolved The Family Murders * BREAKING! Von Einem is dead

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The Who's Who List

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VICTIMS
AB - Alan Barnes 16yo
NM - Neil Muir 25yo
PS - Peter Stogneff 14yo
ML - Mark Langley 18yo
RK- Richard Kelvin 15yo

• DS - Derrance Stevenson high risk lifestyle pornographer and criminal lawyer shot to death
• DS - David Szach convicted for the murder of criminal lawyer Derrence Stevenson

DECEASED
DSD - Denis St Denis hairdresser
RBD - Richard Dutton Brown the magistrate
PF - Pru Firman
SN - Sarah Novak
BG - Brian Gant
NB - Noel Brook also known as Di Di
TP - Trevor Peters of the diaries
PM - Dr. Peter Leslie Millhouse acquitted for the murder of Neil Muir
GG - Gino Gambardella chiropractor fled to Italy
JL - Jacquie the nurse mentioned in the ebook as a good friend of and who rented a unit close to BVEs unit we assume name suppressed? Reportedly deceased.

LIVING until further notice
BVE - Bevan von Einem also known as 'Bevbang' to inner circle and 'Vonnie' in the prison system
Mr R - The businessman name suppressed
SGW - Dr Stephen George Woodards
Mr. B - Teenage prostitute and informant name suppressed

LT - Lewis Turtur also known as 'Louie'
A - The older teenage boy Peter Stogneff's parents feel may have had something to do with their son's abduction
RR - Raymond Rozankowski who was a friend of BVE and lived in the same street as A

DK - Darko Kastellan assistant to Gambardella

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[AdelaideGT]

Are these Louise & Rihanna cases part of the Family Murders?

 

[Butters and Pepper]

Dieter Pfennig was convicted of the LB murder, no know connection has ever been made.

The speculated Family murders always involved male victims as far as I'm aware, too.

 

[dc3]

Are these Louise & Rihanna cases part of the Family Murders?

No but I think Johnnymac is just trying to explain who the cold case whistle blower is

 

[Macka_321]

Wouldn’t take any notice what is posted on that particular page.

 

[Wombat64]

Surely Mr R is not under the misapprehension that no one knows who he actually is?
Pretty sure everyone who posts here knows his identity, as well as thousands elsewhere.

Millions don't know his identity. There is a whole wide world outside of this forum.

 

[Macka_321]

Time for a royal commission sisters of mark Langley are calling for one.

 

[Peter Doherty]

10:59 into the first episode of Frozen Lies, can someone explain the GPO clock here?

 

[johnymac1]

Are these Louise & Rihanna cases part of the Family Murders?

Not by my reckoning

But the dude who operates from QLD has some weird theories fuelled by MTM

 

[Zebo]

I'm intrigued by the motivation for maintaining the suppression order?
Surely Mr R is not under the misapprehension that no one knows who he actually is?
Pretty sure everyone who posts here knows his identity, as well as thousands elsewhere.
It's not a difficult task, finding his identity on the internet.
Just seems an exercise in futility by maintaining appearances.

The 'motivation for maintaining the suppression order' lies in (1) the specific reasons the suppression orders were granted in the first place and (2) a desire to prevent a potential defence being able to argue that years of publicity/gossip has prevented any chance of a fair trial (as was successfully argued re the latter VE charges and was a major reason why the charges were 'dropped').

Your observation that ‘everyone knows’ and ongoing evidence of harassment and exposure from the media and people like Debi Marshall are reasons to SUPPORT the continued maintenance of suppression orders under the ‘fair trial’ principle, rather than providing grounds for overturning them.

So if you want to maintain the potential for justice to be done, these suppression orders are vital and ought to be respected.

 

[Soldier Of Misfortune]

Cold case whistle blower

As JohnnyMac said he has some
Weird theories with other cases like rhianna Barreau Louise bell etc

is the BVE zoom call available to watch or is there a transcript?

 

[Wooden Robot]

The 'motivation for maintaining the suppression order' lies in (1) the specific reasons the suppression orders were granted in the first place and (2) a desire to prevent a potential defence being able to argue that years of publicity/gossip has prevented any chance of a fair trial (as was successfully argued re the latter VE charges and was a major reason why the charges were 'dropped').

Your observation that ‘everyone knows’ and ongoing evidence of harassment and exposure from the media and people like Debi Marshall are reasons to SUPPORT the continued maintenance of suppression orders under the ‘fair trial’ principle, rather than providing grounds for overturning them.

So if you want to maintain the potential for justice to be done, these suppression orders are vital and ought to be respected.

Thanks for that, Zebo.
Well and correctly explained.
Appreciate you taking the time.
It's surprising - well, maybe not - just how easy it is to come across his name, business, activities etc. on the internet, if you are acquainted with his story.
Sadly ... there'll never be any trial going forward where he'll be involved.

 

[Macka_321]

Seen a news report that major crime went to the prison today camera caught them leaving one was holding a camcorder by the look of it.

 

[squawk]

60 Minutes has finally uploaded their 1988 story.

 

[Peter Doherty]

60 Minutes has finally uploaded their 1988 story.

Does anyone know if this is the full, original story that aired?

 

[johnymac1]

wonder how B is handling the news?

 

[HK_Hawk]

wonder how B is handling the news?

He only picked up the newspaper… he didn’t actually go through and read it like other members of his family…

 

[johnymac1]

Vision of two Detectives walking out of the prison after seeing BVE.

Did they get the rehearsed story, or did BVE give the Family both barrels?

He has been constant with his line, "I only played the harp to RK"

 

[theredrooster]

60 Minutes has finally uploaded their 1988 story.

Based on what most people in this thread already know, who do they believe is being depicted in this reenactment?

 

[theredrooster]

60 Minutes has finally uploaded their 1988 story.

Thirty-seven years after this 1988 report, the case hasn’t officially advanced even an inch. Not one inch.

 

[theredrooster]

As difficult as it is to bring up, it’s something that hasn’t really been discussed. I often wonder how many surviving victims may have contracted HIV, given the risks at that time. The physicality alone was sexually horrendously dangerous.

 

[Nemisis]

As difficult as it is to bring up, it’s something that hasn’t really been discussed. I often wonder how many surviving victims may have contracted HIV, given the risks at that time. The physicality alone was sexually horrendously dangerous.

AIDS was first diagnosed in 1982, and the first death was in 1984. Hopefully, the victims just escaped the outbreak.

 

[theredrooster]

AIDS was first diagnosed in 1982, and the first death was in 1984. Hopefully, the victims just escaped the outbreak.

Scientists believe the virus may have been circulating undetected for many years —possibly up to a decade— before the first officially recognized cases. If the victims had been r*ped by multiple perpetrators, the risk of transmission would understandably be a significant concern. Fortunately, there have been no official public reports indicating that any victims contracted the virus as a result of the attacks, suggesting that, hopefully, no such transmissions occurred.

 

[theredrooster]

I sincerely wish that Darko Kastellan, Lewis Turtur, Clocker and Mr. B, with appropriate legal protections and indemnities, would fully disclose everything they know. After all this time, do they truly believe that an elderly timepiece salesman, with a lot of now-dead posh friends, could still pose any kind of physical threat to them?

 

[dc3]

Based on what most people in this thread already know, who do they believe is being depicted in this reenactment?

Was thinking the same , possibly the trans house at alberton?
The pub looked like the links hotel

 

[theredrooster]

I’m also struck by the extent to which BVE appears to have sacrificed his entire adult life to protect others who were allegedly equally involved. It’s hard to understand — no amount of pressure, fear, or potential retaliation seems worth maintaining that level of silence. Had he cooperated with authorities, he likely would have received a much shorter sentence. At this stage, as BVE nears the end of his life this week, one wonders what he has left to lose by finally speaking openly. I can’t imagine how it would feel to serve forty-two years universally despised and incarcerated while your alleged co-conspirators went on with their daily lives. Do it BVE. Do it!