Politics In Solidarity with the Persian People

[Saint]

"
According to lawyers and human rights monitors, detainees are frequently charged with capital offences such as espionage for Israel or the United States, monarchism, or support for Reza Pahlavi – accusations that can carry the death penalty under Iran’s legal framework.

Executions, lawyers warn, are being processed with unprecedented speed – often before families can even determine where detainees are being held.

The Death Sheds: night killings, morning deliveries​

Beyond the formal execution chambers, another pattern has emerged.

As mass arrests continue across the country, families who have received the bodies of their loved ones over the past two weeks describe strikingly similar experiences — accounts that suggest a systematic and repetitive cycle.

According to these families, bodies are returned in black, zippered bags. The remains, they say, appear “fresh,” and in many cases bear a single gunshot wound to the forehead.

Multiple testimonies indicate that detainees are being held in large warehouse-like facilities, killed during the night, and their bodies handed over to relatives the following morning.

One relative of a victim stated: “Every night the Kahrizak shed is emptied, and by morning it is full again.”
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https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world%2Fsea-of-blood-tehran-resorts-to-secret-executions-lethal-injections-as-repression-intensifies%2Fnews-story%2F3878e1acd4288353841c8528bdf255cc?amp

This is the problem with once-reputable news organisations shredding any form of integrity.

Having seen the positive light the Australian shone on genocide in Palestine, I won't bother reading what they say about Iran because I know how many lies they told about Palestine.

Is there a credible news agency reporting this? There's nothing like this on BBC, there's not even a mention of it in mainstream US media, who would usually be pushing something like this.

Reading the Australian is like reading the Epoch Times for levels of integrity/independence.

 

[jathanas]

This is the problem with once-reputable news organisations shredding any form of integrity.

Having seen the positive light the Australian shone on genocide in Palestine, I won't bother reading what they say about Iran because I know how many lies they told about Palestine.

Is there a credible news agency reporting this? There's nothing like this on BBC, there's not even a mention of it in mainstream US media, who would usually be pushing something like this.

Reading the Australian is like reading the Epoch Times for levels of integrity/independence.

Disappeared bodies, mass burials and ‘30,000 dead’: what is the truth of Iran’s death toll?

Testimony from medics, morgue and graveyard staff reveals huge state effort to conceal systematic killing of protesters

www.theguardian.com

Machine guns to machetes: Weapons that massacred thousands in Iran

BBC News Persian Forensic has been able to confirm the security forces' deployment of a wide array of lethal and non-lethal weaponry.

www.bbc.com

There seems to be a consensus that innocents are getting killed by their own government, but I agree on your sentiment re media integrity.

 

[Saint]

Disappeared bodies, mass burials and ‘30,000 dead’: what is the truth of Iran’s death toll?

Testimony from medics, morgue and graveyard staff reveals huge state effort to conceal systematic killing of protesters

www.theguardian.com

Machine guns to machetes: Weapons that massacred thousands in Iran

BBC News Persian Forensic has been able to confirm the security forces' deployment of a wide array of lethal and non-lethal weaponry.

www.bbc.com

There seems to be a consensus that innocents are getting killed by their own government, but I agree on your sentiment re media integrity.

Certainly looks like a slaughter.

The interesting thing is that, in a place like Iran, you would expect there to be a focal point or persistent target of the violence. In Iraq, the Sunnis would go after the Shi'a. There's a lot of reporting about deaths of "protesters", but if they're being killed in hospital beds, perhaps they're also on some other target list and not just being killed because of protest (like because of being on some Govt watch list of democratic or other types of groups.)

I would have thought in Iran, the violence would have been more focused in provinces like Balochistan in the south-east, Kurdish provinces in the north west or the Arab minority in the western provinces (as well as Tehran). Maybe this will be elaborated over time, perhaps the harshest crackdowns also have resulted in the greatest stifling of information.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

‘SEA OF BLOOD’: TEHRAN CONTINUES SECRET CAMPAIGN OF MASS EXECUTIONS, REPRESSION

‘SEA OF BLOOD’: TEHRAN CONTINUES SECRET CAMPAIGN OF MASS EXECUTIONS, REPRESSION

todayspaper.theaustralian.com.au

 

[ZEV]

Dude its hard to take your supposed care for Iranian/Persian people seriously when you described their leaders as "goat herders".

I don't really believe you give a **** about people you just described as "goats".

We know that even if the current Hamas sponsoring, murderous goat herders are removed, there is no viable democratic alternative to step up and govern.

ferball I love how you don't even attempt to deny that Iran is funding Hamas, yet make false statements claiming jathanas made dehumanising comments about the Iran's theocratic dictatorship....

Also, your lack of regionally specific cultural and environmental understanding is off the charts.

 

[jathanas]

Dude its hard to take your supposed care for Iranian/Persian people seriously when you described their leaders as "goat herders".

I don't really believe you give a **** about people you just described as "goats".

Dude, it's hard to take you seriously when you misconstrue my disdain for the barbaric Iranian government as a lack of care for the innocent people they're slaughtering. "Their leaders" is also using the term loosely, and would be argued against by the families of the people they've killed.

Interestingly, you're disputing my genuine care for the Iranian people; where have you expressed yours?

PS: I described the Iranian government as goat herders, for which I should apologise to goat herders, as this is painting them in a bad light.

 

[ferball]

ferball I love how you don't even attempt to deny that Iran is funding Hamas, yet make false statements claiming jathanas made dehumanising comments about the Iran's theocratic dictatorship....

Why would I deny that Iran fund Hamas?

You literally quoted him using a common western racist slur against people from central and west Asia. Hardly surprising that a zionist is racist tho.

 

[jathanas]

Why would I deny that Iran fund Hamas?

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Because Hamas, along with Hezbollah and the Houthis, are terrorist organisations. Generally, this would be something to stay discreet about.

 

[ferball]

Because Hamas is a terrorist organisation.

Its also the organisation that governed Gaza, running hospitals, education, etc etc. Its only logical then that if a surgeon works in a hospital in Gaza someone can say they work for Hamas, arrest kidnap them and break their hands so they can never work to heal another human again.

And it also has nothing to do with you using racist language about Iranians. Which is the issue here.

You might be in solidarity with the persian people but they are just one (a majority) of many ethnic groups in Iran.

When you referred to goat herders were you meaning that the Persians or the other ethnicities were goats?

Please explain.

 

[jathanas]

Its also the organisation that governed Gaza, running hospitals, education, etc etc. Its only logical then that if a surgeon works in a hospital in Gaza someone can say they work for Hamas, arrest kidnap them and break their hands so they can never work to heal another human again.

And it also has nothing to do with you using racist language about Iranians. Which is the issue here.

You might be in solidarity with the persian people but they are just one (a majority) of many ethnic groups in Iran.

When you referred to goat herders were you meaning that the Persians or the other ethnicities were goats?

Please explain.

I shouldn't have to explain, but since it wasn't clear, here goes.

I used the term "murderous goat herders" to imply that the Iranian government is primitive in their beliefs.

Below is an example of why I hold this view of those savages; race has nothing to do with it.

Visegrád24 on Instagram: "Iranian Grand Ayatollah equates women to cattle, and that God created women for men's use. These are views shared by most Islamist Radicals in the Islamic Regime of Iran. The man in thehe video is Sayyid Sadiq al-Husayni

129K likes, 10K comments - visegrad.24 on January 30, 2026: "Iranian Grand Ayatollah equates women to cattle, and that God created women for men's use. These are views shared by most Islamist Radicals in the Islamic Regime of Iran. The man in thehe video is Sayyid Sadiq al-Husayni al-Shirazi...

www.instagram.com

 

[jathanas]

ferball I love how you don't even attempt to deny that Iran is funding Hamas, yet make false statements claiming jathanas made dehumanising comments about the Iran's theocratic dictatorship....

Also, your lack of regionally specific cultural and environmental understanding is off the charts.

I'll take a stab in the dark, but I suspect that coming here and casting aspersions might have something to do with his ideology.

 

[ferball]

I'll take a stab in the dark, but I suspect that coming here and casting aspersions might have something to do with his ideology.

What's my ideology?

 

[jathanas]

What's my ideology?

What do you mean by "Zionist", and why is it hardly surprising that one would be racist? I sense hostility there.

 

[ferball]

What do you mean by "Zionist", and why is it hardly surprising that one would be racist? I sense hostility there.

That's not really an answer to my question.

Perhaps you should try again.

 

[jathanas]

That's not really an answer to my question.

Perhaps you should try again.

Let’s not dance around the issue.

You’ve come here to defend theocrats slaughtering innocent people from my supposed racism. That has been your only input.

Regarding your ideology, that all that’s important in the context of this thread, yes? That’s who you’re here to stand up for.

Have I missed anything?

Anyway. Great chat. Stay awesome!

 

[IlovethePies]

That’s a hollow question that barely deserves a response.

People are getting massacred and you’re playing hypotheticals. 35000 dead in 2 days, but I don’t hear you yelling genocide about Iran. See the double standard?

We know that even if the current Hamas sponsoring, murderous goat herders are removed, there is no viable democratic alternative to step up and govern.

If US intervention could stop the slaughter, that would be a strong result on its own.

In short, let’s focus on stopping the killing. Long term governance planning can follow.

`That is the entire point. US intervention cannot stop the slaughter, it can only intensify it. This is not speculation, because there a multiple recent historical examples to prove it.
Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya...
in all three of these countries, US intervention led to a collapse in the very fabric of society. Chaos, violence, barbarism on a scale far greater than before the US intervention resulted.

If you actually did care about the Persian people, here is what you would demand of the US and European governments:

-End all sanctions against Iran that are strangling its economy and creating a humanitarian catastrophe for the Iranian population.

The desperate economic conditions in Iran played a large part in driving the recent protests. The economic and social distress in Iran is the result of decades of sanctions which have now become more brutal than ever. The number of premature deaths in Iranian hospitals due to lack of medical supplies because of the sanctions, for example, is totally unknown. Over the years, the sanctions regime has certainly caused the deaths of far more Iranians than those murdered by the theocracy in the last few weeks.

- Move all military forces which threaten the lives of the Iranian people with catastrophic military violence and destruction away from Iran's borders and coasts.

These would be the immediate demands of anyone who genuinely was concerned about the Iranian people.

 

[IlovethePies]

Because Hamas, along with Hezbollah and the Houthis, are terrorist organisations. Generally, this would be something to stay discreet about.

It depends who is defining the word "terrorist".

If you asked a person in Gaza, they would likely define the entire IDF as a terrorist organisation

 

[barreness]

What's my ideology?

 

[IlovethePies]

The tweet from Zei Squirrel below sheds a different light on various' links posted from the corporate media posted to this thread claiming a bloodbath of over 35 000 dead in Iran.

The Guardian article was produced by Deepa Parent, a free lance journalist and member of HRAI (Human Rights Activists in Iran), which is a non-profit based not in Iran, but in Fairfax County Virginia (coincidentally near the headquarters of the CIA), and receives donations from the National Endowment for Democracy (which is a CIA front).

Zei Squirrel also gives some useful advice for how to guage the credibility of these Iran "atrocity pieces", as he calls them. They are all written by various figures with links to the CIA and pro-Israeli think tanks in the US.

 

[jathanas]

`That is the entire point. US intervention cannot stop the slaughter, it can only intensify it. This is not speculation, because there a multiple recent historical examples to prove it.
Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya...
in all three of these countries, US intervention led to a collapse in the very fabric of society. Chaos, violence, barbarism on a scale far greater than before the US intervention resulted.

If you actually did care about the Persian people, here is what you would demand of the US and European governments:

-End all sanctions against Iran that are strangling its economy and creating a humanitarian catastrophe for the Iranian population.

The desperate economic conditions in Iran played a large part in driving the recent protests. The economic and social distress in Iran is the result of decades of sanctions which have now become more brutal than ever. The number of premature deaths in Iranian hospitals due to lack of medical supplies because of the sanctions, for example, is totally unknown. Over the years, the sanctions regime has certainly caused the deaths of far more Iranians than those murdered by the theocracy in the last few weeks.

- Move all military forces which threaten the lives of the Iranian people with catastrophic military violence and destruction away from Iran's borders and coasts.

These would be the immediate demands of anyone who genuinely was concerned about the Iranian people.

Your basic premise for almost everything is: "The US would make things worse, especially if we add a dose of Israel". In Iran's case, it's purely hypothetical.

Do you have a position on the slaughter taking place? Not what would happen if the US intervened, but the killings taking place now?

As an aside, requesting that economic sanctions be stopped so that the Iranian government ceases to murder its own citizens is ridiculous, even by your standards.

 

[jathanas]

The tweet from Zei Squirrel below sheds a different light on various' links posted from the corporate media posted to this thread claiming a bloodbath of over 35 000 dead in Iran.

The Guardian article was produced by Deepa Parent, a free lance journalist and member of HRAI (Human Rights Activists in Iran), which is a non-profit based not in Iran, but in Fairfax County Virginia (coincidentally near the headquarters of the CIA), and receives donations from the National Endowment for Democracy (which is a CIA front).

Zei Squirrel also gives some useful advice for how to guage the credibility of these Iran "atrocity pieces", as he calls them. They are all written by various figures with links to the CIA and pro-Israeli think tanks in the US.

Disputing the mass murder of innocent Iranians is a new low.

 

[IlovethePies]

Your basic premise for almost everything is: "The US would make things worse, especially if we add a dose of Israel". In Iran's case, it's purely hypothetical.

Do you have a position on the slaughter taking place? Not what would happen if the US intervened, but the killings taking place now?

As an aside, requesting that economic sanctions be stopped so that the Iranian government ceases to murder its own citizens is ridiculous, even by your standards.

I have made my position clear on the slaughter in Iran. I am utterly opposed to it. And I don't want it to become worse. I care greatly for the suffering of the Iranian people, just as I do for the suffering of the people in Gaza.

 

[IlovethePies]

Disputing the mass murder of innocent Iranians is a new low.

Read the tweet. I'm disputing nothing. I am just suggesting that your sources are dubious, and providing evidence to support this suggestion.

 

[IlovethePies]

As an aside, requesting that economic sanctions be stopped so that the Iranian government ceases to murder its own citizens is ridiculous, even by your standards.

If economic sanctions were immediately lifted, the Iranian population would have access to critical medical, agricultural, etc resources that would address immediate issues of physical survival.

The demand for lifting the sactions is motivated by a genuine concern for the welfare of the Iranian people.

The fact that you want sanctions to remain shows that you have no concerns whatsover for what could immediately give relief to the population.

Currently, the doctors in Iran tending to all the injured protestors don't have access to adequate medical supplies.

 

[ferball]

Let’s not dance around the issue.

You’ve come here to defend theocrats slaughtering innocent people from my supposed racism. That has been your only input.

Regarding your ideology, that all that’s important in the context of this thread, yes? That’s who you’re here to stand up for.

Have I missed anything?

Anyway. Great chat. Stay awesome!

Just so you;'re clear this was my comment in another thread about this situation and it reflects what i think about the people in charge of Iran.

If those claims are true they are disgusting and put the Iranian regime on par with other disgusting regimes like Israel and the US.

If they have slaughtered all those people (and I've heard from other sources they have) then they are disgusting and on par with the slaughter in the ME perpetrated by the US and Israel.

Now if that's not strong enough for you I dunno what to say.

Your mate ZEV likes to refer to arabs generally as "goat herders" and even likes to claim protesters who wear the kefffiyeh in solidarity with Palestinians are as bad as people who use blackface because they "dress up like goat herders". Its a common slur used against middle eastern people, often by people pretending to criticise religion. I just assume you are using the same sort of racism but if I notice you referring to other religious types who push violent conflict (some modern Christian or Jewish leaders for example,) as goat herders I'll accept I may have misjudged you.

Until then I find it hard to take your concern seriously.