Training 2019 Preseason

[Sunny_]

If Harbs does a hamstring or something in AFLX that will really make it hard to get early wins. He is so vitally important to us.

I can't recall him having soft tissue injuries before but he is getting older these days. Hopefully should be fine.

 

[Jirik13]

If Harbs does a hamstring or something in AFLX that will really make it hard to get early wins. He is so vitally important to us.

I can't recall him having soft tissue injuries before but he is getting older these days. Hopefully should be fine.

He could do hamstring every week at club match practice (way more dangerous than AFLX). It looks like players actually enjoy AFLX, they get together, have a bit of fun, basically no tackling, 2 x 10 min is not even a quarter.

 

[Ray Donovan]

That’s my point though. Not having a go at you, I just don’t get how anyone could have us as a ‘clear’ favourite for the spoon. Statistically and historically we are less likely to be on the bottom of the ladder than Carlton, Brisbane or St Kilda, and I think how bad we are is being grossly exaggerated in the media

Lynch and May out I look down the gold coast list it will be pretty close with Carlton I assume I would need to do a bit more work with the draw.

I'm struggling a bit Swallow probably your best touk Miller, Wright, Witts, Hanley, Thompson, Harbrow, ainsworth. Day, Bowes, Sexton, Weller, Lemmens

Sprinkled through with a lot of mature off cuts Miles, Hombsch, GHS, Murdoch, Collins, Ellis, Young

I don't know enough just be difficult to make a case winning over 3-5 games for mine. Your going to prioritize the kids Luk, Rankine, King so it's going to be minimum 3 debutants. Brand new forward line probably 2-4 extra new mature players inside the best 22.

What carlton has brought in this season plus what was developing I have them slightly in front. Just the top end carlton with young talent developing I can see them perhaps winning 6 plus games.

St kilda are better than last season showed i just can't find a reason to have the suns much higher yet. These kinds of list builds the suns have usually suggest a tank and develop year.

Medium disposable contracts, young draft picks lots of development. No long term contracts.

 

[gcsunsfc]

Lynch and May out I look down the gold coast list it will be pretty close with Carlton I assume I would need to do a bit more work with the draw.

I'm struggling a bit Swallow probably your best touk Miller, Wright, Witts, Hanley, Thompson, Harbrow, ainsworth. Day, Bowes, Sexton, Weller, Lemmens

Sprinkled through with a lot of mature off cuts Miles, Hombsch, GHS, Murdoch, Collins, Ellis, Young

I don't know enough just be difficult to make a case winning over 3-5 games for mine. Your going to prioritize the kids Luk, Rankine, King so it's going to be minimum 3 debutants. Brand new forward line probably 2-4 extra new mature players inside the best 22.

What carlton has brought in this season plus what was developing I have them slightly in front. Just the top end carlton with young talent developing I can see them perhaps winning 6 plus games.

St kilda are better than last season showed i just can't find a reason to have the suns much higher yet. These kinds of list builds the suns have usually suggest a tank and develop year.

Medium disposable contracts, young draft picks lots of development. No long term contracts.

Which group of young players do you rate the highest (<22 yo)

Talls
C Curnow
H Mckay
T De Koning
Weitering

Medium/Smalls
P Dow
Z Fisher
M Kennedy
L O'Brien
SPS
Polson
Setterfield
Walsh
Williamson

GC

Talls
King
Lukosius
Ballard
Crossley


Mediums/Smalls
Ah Chee
Ainsworth
Bowes
Brodie
Joyce
Macpherson
McLennan
Powell
Rankine



I would say they probably have a few more top end players but I reckon we have young good depth as well.

 

[Jirik13]

Which group of young players do you rate the highest (<22 yo)

Talls
C Curnow
H Mckay
T De Koning
Weitering

Medium/Smalls
P Dow
Z Fisher
M Kennedy
L O'Brien
SPS
Polson
Setterfield
Walsh
Williamson

GC

Talls
King
Lukosius
Ballard
Crossley


Mediums/Smalls
Ah Chee
Ainsworth
Bowes
Brodie
Joyce
Macpherson
McLennan
Powell
Rankine



I would say they probably have a few more top end players but I reckon we have young good depth as well.

You forgot Fiorini. Only C Curnow is top end at the moment.

 

[Ray Donovan]

Which group of young players do you rate the highest (<22 yo)

Talls
C Curnow
H Mckay
T De Koning
Weitering

Medium/Smalls
P Dow
Z Fisher
M Kennedy
L O'Brien
SPS
Polson
Setterfield
Walsh
Williamson

GC

Talls
King
Lukosius
Ballard
Crossley


Mediums/Smalls
Ah Chee
Ainsworth
Bowes
Brodie
Joyce
Macpherson
McLennan
Powell
Rankine



I would say they probably have a few more top end players but I reckon we have young good depth as well.

Carlton , but that can I change this year you only really need one and it changes everything your young talent a lot is in Capped majority has less games.

Cripps is a young superstar and mitch McGovern coming across looks a pretty big plus.

Word is lukosius is the next wonder kid though so that could be the one.

I like ainsworth bowes does some nice things.

Just uncapped Ben king to me is still a bit or a project for the future

 

[Jen2310]

People go on about superstars, but you don't need stars. All you need is players who play their role. It's all it takes. A group and individual effort.

 

[briztoon]

Which group of young players do you rate the highest (<22 yo)

Talls
C Curnow
H Mckay
T De Koning
Weitering

Medium/Smalls
P Dow
Z Fisher
M Kennedy
L O'Brien
SPS
Polson
Setterfield
Walsh
Williamson

GC

Talls
King
Lukosius
Ballard
Crossley


Mediums/Smalls
Ah Chee
Ainsworth
Bowes
Brodie
Joyce
Macpherson
McLennan
Powell
Rankine



I would say they probably have a few more top end players but I reckon we have young good depth as well.

I would say Carlton are ahead. You didn't include Liam Stocker in Carlton's list, and if you're going to include McLennan in GC's list, you definitely should include Stocker in Carlton's list.


Curious what you think of Brisbane's young talent.

Talls
Hipwood
Skinner
Wooler
Ballenden
Payne

Medium/Smalls
Keays
Mathieson
Cox
McCluggage
J. Berry
Witherden
Lyons
Rayner
Bailey
Starcevich
Answerth
Smith
T. Berry
Joyce
McFadyen

 

[Jirik13]

I would say Carlton are ahead. You didn't include Liam Stocker in Carlton's list, and if you're going to include McLennan in GC's list, you definitely should include Stocker in Carlton's list.


Curious what you think of Brisbane's young talent.

Talls
Hipwood
Skinner
Wooler
Ballenden
Payne

Medium/Smalls
Keays
Mathieson
Cox
McCluggage
J. Berry
Witherden
Lyons
Rayner
Bailey
Starcevich
Answerth
Smith
T. Berry
Joyce
McFadyen

Talls - Hipwood yes (he will probably not be a typical power forward due to his body), the rest is potential

Medium/Small - J. Berry, McCluggage, Bailey, Witherden, Rayner (is it only me but he should shed some weight, way too big, skinfold issue?) - all yes, the rest is potential, Keys, Mathieson, Lyons possibly gone next off season

 

[briztoon]

Talls - Hipwood yes (he will probably not be a typical power forward due to his body), the rest is potential

Medium/Small - J. Berry, McCluggage, Bailey, Witherden, Rayner (is it only me but he should shed some weight, way too big, skinfold issue?) - all yes, the rest is potential, Keys, Mathieson, Lyons possibly gone next off season

I think Mathieson stays, the other two gone.

Was there ever anything from the Gold Coast end on rumours of Keays to GC during the trade period?

 

[Jirik13]

I think Mathieson stays, the other two gone.

Was there ever anything from the Gold Coast end on rumours of Keays to GC during the trade period?

Did not hear anything on GC side.

 

[gcsunsfc]

I would say Carlton are ahead. You didn't include Liam Stocker in Carlton's list, and if you're going to include McLennan in GC's list, you definitely should include Stocker in Carlton's list.


Curious what you think of Brisbane's young talent.

Talls
Hipwood
Skinner
Wooler
Ballenden
Payne

Medium/Smalls
Keays
Mathieson
Cox
McCluggage
J. Berry
Witherden
Lyons
Rayner
Bailey
Starcevich
Answerth
Smith
T. Berry
Joyce
McFadyen

Yeah left a couple out unintentionally - good call on Stocker
Left out guys like Heron, Dawson, Nutting etc.. from our list as focussing more on guys who have had more reps or highly recruited rookies.

Well maybe its my ignorance but I think a number of those haven't shown in any capacity they are AFL players at this stage- admittedly many are very young, even 1st years or have been injured so haven't had the chance. I don't follow the draft that closely to know much about the juniors unless highly discussed. I don't know much about Skinner, Wooler, Ballenden, Payne, Lyons, Answerth, T. Berry, Joyce, Mcfadyen. I'm sure some will emerge as real players in the next few years but I couldn't say at this stage.

I dont rate Keays, don't really see him as an AFL player.
Smith is ok, rucks may get better with age, seems back up worthy at this stage but not more.

I rate mathieson more than he gets reps for, plays his role well. Whats his defensive running like?
Witherden - I'm not the biggest fan. Not sure he is as good as gets suggested.
Cox has great potential - maybe Harbrow style player from a GC perspective?
Starcevich and Bailey really showed something last year - look good young kids
Berry, Mcclug, Rayner obvious stars
Hipwood - we've discussed before. Think he's capped at a second best forward, or at least needs to play with another strong marking guy IMO.

So I'd say have 4-5 that will be very good players at least
But could say that there may be <8-10 who are best 22 worthy
Similar to both GC and Carlton
Probably more certain 'very good' or better players but Im unsure about the depth.

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

I believe there's a praccie match vs Bris. on Thu. arvo. at Metricon. Does anyone know if it will be open to walk in and watch?

 

[Jen2310]

I don't see why not. You'd think it would be open to the public. But can't find the details for it.

 

[Sunny_]

I'd be surprised if it is open. Training at Metricon is closed to the public most of the time.

Journos will get in but that's it.

 

[Jen2310]

I'd be surprised if it is open. Training at Metricon is closed to the public most of the time.

Journos will get in but that's it.

Really? That sucks. They should open it for those that want to go watch the scratch match. What's the harm in in?

 

[Jirik13]

Really? That sucks. They should open it for those that want to go watch the scratch match. What's the harm in in?

Agree. There will be one public against Lions on Feb 23.

 

[briztoon]

Pretty sure the Lions have said it’s open to the public.

 

[Camsta]

Really? That sucks. They should open it for those that want to go watch the scratch match. What's the harm in in?

Pretty sure Thursday is intraclub (probables vs possibles) - prac game against the lions on the 23rd is open to the public

 

[Jen2310]

Pretty sure Thursday is intraclub (probables vs possibles) - prac game against the lions on the 23rd is open to the public

Ah, makes more sense.

 

[Crow till I die]

Based on what?

we were 2 wins and percentage ahead of Carlton, who are missing their Docherty for the season, had a B&F where 6/10 will be aver the age of 30 this season (2 of whom already retired), and one of those under 30 was Liam Jones.

Half a win behind St Kilda and the only game we played them we lost by 2 point in the last two minutes missing majority of our best 22.

1 win behind Brisbane, again, by 4 points from a kick in the last couple of minutes missing most of our best 22.

and that's after playing on the road non-stop for the first 9 rounds of the year and having the longest injury list in the AFL by some way (we had only scrimshaw left playing reserves out of our listed players in round 23), with the 5 players we traded having only played 44/110 games last year

- Lyons (who was delisted) can be comfortably replaced by Miles who offers more
- Peter Wright is finally fit and can replace Lynchs output (20 goals from 10 games, 9 of which came against Carlton)
- Jack Hombsch can generally replace May in terms of his actual defensive work (but not his offensive drive/kick.)
- Wright, Miller, Ah Chee, Fiorini, Ainsworth, Brodie and Bowes will all be between their 3rd - 5th years and all primed to break out and are already some of our most important players.
- have a new fitness/S&C boss who's actually improved players aerobic capacity (joining a running group in the off season) and they're noticeably bigger this year.
- brand new coaching staff, development staff and have now invested the most in player welfare of any club.
- 2nd year preseason of being able to use our state of the art facilities.
- no injuries this season to worry about YET.

anyone that has us wooden spoon favorites by a LONG way is a fool. It's entirely possible we come last, but history would suggest that we wont.

Every crows supporter hope's GC go well enough so that carlton get the spoon at the very least

 

[Jen2310]

 

[SUNS]

There seems to a rising quality in the content of our digital product. Hopefully a sign of things to come!

 

[footylover18]

- Wright, Miller, Ah Chee, Fiorini, Ainsworth, Brodie and Bowes will all be between their 3rd - 5th years and all primed to break out and are already some of our most important players.

That's kinda the problem.

 

[exile]

There seems to a rising quality in the content of our digital product. Hopefully a sign of things to come!

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