Game Day Practice Match Carlton v Hawthorn - February 21st 4.00PM @ Princes Park

[Mr_Plow]

Players aside.

1. If this pressure forward line works, it will have to be set-up and function very different to what was on display today.
Nothing from the smalls at all and even Ed looked all at sea at times. Not sure what the answer is, although credit to Cuningham, but most of his better work was outside the role allocated. Gibbons a little selfish for mine, calling for the ball when in not advantageous situations. First game though so...nerves?
Polson looked lost also, but I see his value in the back-line. I know it's only one game but I didn't need this game to see this.

2. Defence - Not enough time to get organised via some poor turnovers. Jones best of the lot by some, but the pressure and positioning seemed to be lacking. Maybe it's a matter of time for the group to learn to play together, but the pieces weren't fitting so well today. Really missed Marchbank....and that other guys....what's his name? oh yeah...Docherty.

3. Credit to those that rucked against the odds today. We were clearly beaten in the centre, but efforts were there from the collective.
Kreuzer & Cripps clearly to make quite a difference.

4. Credit to Bolton for leaving Garlett on after several (many) poor skill errors. Have to learn somehow.

2. Midfield. Almost anyone and everyone went through here. This clearly wasn't a win at all cost game. Some bold moves and prepared moves.
I didn't mind what came about, but Dow may feel a little sore tonight for being the one that had to go in hardest.

Dow was wrapped up in tackles that many times, I lost count. I'm sure he enjoyed the physicality but would have also appreciated the space afforded to him by Cripps, lol.

 

[Funk]

To be fair you would like to think an up and coming young side would have a hell of a lot more to play for and impress in a practice match, you would generally think we would of won easily not get thrashed. Its very depressing.

We had no rucks and never won a hit out in the first half - and subsequently got slaughtered in the clearances.

Arguably our 2 best mids were also out against full strength Hawks.

Our 3rd best MID played FWD to let the young guys have a go in the middle - it was after all a “practice game”.

We only started to win hit outs late in the game with TDK.

Relax BR - it was not as bad as you seem to think.

 

[RedFury]

Walsh is weird... doesn't look quick, but gets around players like they are all slow. Not of this world, i tell ya.

 

[pinot]

Dow was wrapped up in tackles that many times, I lost count. I'm sure he enjoyed the physicality but would have also appreciated the space afforded to him by Cripps, lol.

I think Kennedy also spudded it abit.

 

[HARKER]

As long as the kids look like they are maturing and we didn’t get any injuries...who gives a toss about the rest?!

700+ posts suggest people care.

More positives than negatives overall, taking into account the players we had missing and the roles some were forced to take on.

I could happily go and watch the same again next week. Easily.

 

[windows1]

Windows1 wasnt lying, Walsh is the next coming.

Finally I get some credit.

Vanilla my arse.

 

[Robbo's my hero]

hmm.. not spectatorial, and no I have only one stair into my house... and no I haven't 'browned out'. and I guess too'
the sack is full of hyper morpy and that is lemon juice...

tell me something I don't know..

I’m glad you know it because I haven’t got a ****ing clue what you’re on about.

 

[pinot]

Cripps - Walsh - Samo - Setterfield is my midfield of choice at this time.

 

[Mr_Plow]

I think Kennedy also spudded it abit.

Wasn't a standout, for sure. Hopefully we have a ruckman next week, might help.

 

[TooBlue14]

Players aside.

1. If this pressure forward line works, it will have to be set-up and function very different to what was on display today.
Nothing from the smalls at all and even Ed looked all at sea at times. Not sure what the answer is, although credit to Cuningham, but most of his better work was outside the role allocated. Gibbons a little selfish for mine, calling for the ball when in not advantageous situations. First game though so...nerves?
Polson looked lost also, but I see his value in the back-line. I know it's only one game but I didn't need this game to see this.

2. Defence - Not enough time to get organised via some poor turnovers. Jones best of the lot by some, but the pressure and positioning seemed to be lacking. Maybe it's a matter of time for the group to learn to play together, but the pieces weren't fitting so well today. Really missed Marchbank....and that other guys....what's his name? oh yeah...Docherty.

3. Credit to those that rucked against the odds today. We were clearly beaten in the centre, but efforts were there from the collective.
Kreuzer & Cripps clearly to make quite a difference.

4. Credit to Bolton for leaving Garlett on after several (many) poor skill errors. Have to learn somehow.

2. Midfield. Almost anyone and everyone went through here. This clearly wasn't a win at all cost game. Some bold moves and prepared moves.
I didn't mind what came about, but Dow may feel a little sore tonight for being the one that had to go in hardest.

Dow is being touted as the next Cripps internally. He’s mirroring him in every way. If he turns out anything like his 3rd and 4th year and beyond we will pack a huge punch inside. Imagine two Crippers?

 

[BIGGUS 64]

Are you high?

Good gear from the sound of it!

 

[Heres Waite]

I learned two things today ... Walsh is the real deal ...

... and disturbingly some random Hawks supporter’s sack is full of lemon juice that he apparently calls hyper morpy.

 

[pinot]

Dow is being touted as the next Cripps internally. He’s mirroring him in every way. If he turns out anything like his 3rd and 4th year and beyond we will pack a huge punch inside. Imagine two Crippers?

He hasnt got the mass to break out of tackles. He needs more power will get there.

 

[pinot]

Wasn't a standout, for sure. Hopefully we have a ruckman next week, might help.

Out Kennedy - In Stocker.

 

[bluemahogany]

Honestly we might win without Garlett in the backline, an almighty stinker. Play him forward.

 

[RudyBlue]

Are you high?

Shit's wack

 

[Leeda]

hmm.. not spectatorial, and no I have only one stair into my house... and no I haven't 'browned out'. and I guess too'
the sack is full of hyper morpy and that is lemon juice...

tell me something I don't know..

legends need no explanation.. shame on you.. you are dropping further than I thought..

 

[Mr_Plow]

Out Kennedy - In Stocker.

Not the solution. But I do want to see Stocker.

 

[Leeda]

you would do well with my authority and my impromata. and even indeed my unconventional perspective..

shucks you can't pay for it.. r you cantering down the straight with a dollar in your ears

 

[RudyBlue]

legends need no explanation.. shame on you.. you are dropping further than I thought..

Not even Stig O'Hara's middle of the night posting is on this level

 

[Leeda]

Not even Stig O'Hara's middle of the night posting is on this level

never been on anyone's level.. where to now?

 

[ParapMarkets]

Wasn't a standout, for sure. Hopefully we have a ruckman next week, might help.

Who played ruck for us today? first and second halves. It sounds like we had not one of our 4 ruckman playing in the first half and then the kid playing in the second half.

 

[Bokan]

My totally subjective thoughts, influenced by many things -

1. Jack silvagni - played defense and mid first half, forward and mid second half. Maybe that somehwat excuses his lackluster performance, but still failed to make an impact down back or in the middle. Forward he looked the most comfortable, however that is where he is perhaps least needed. Did compete better there, before kicking and admirable goal from the middle with an impressive display of effort.
2. Paddy dow - looked more promising earlier on, didn't seem to have as much impact later. Overall probably a disappointing game from paddy, probably needs to get stronger, especially considering he was playing true inside mid for the day.
3. Marc murphy - similar to most the mids, it was harder to judge marc as I was further away from the action. He seemed to somehwat trouble the opposition, receiving a tag(?) I believe. Worked hard to get both outside and inside and chase the ball. A meh game.
4. Lochie O'Brien - impressive game from the youngster, especially the first half. Seemed one of a few designated deliverers into our forward half/50. Nice boot on him, got some real distance and hit players up on occasion. Also very vocal, was good to see. Quietly impressed.
5. Sam petrevski-seton - he looks special this kid. Seems to have built some serious strength and power Into him, looking like the player we hoped he could become. The even footedness and poise was on display ofc, but this was coupled with strength and burst at the stoppage, and real penetration and distance on his kicking. Another you would want delivering into the 50.
6. Kade simpson - similar to Murphy, a relatively quiet game by kades standards. Gave away an unfortunate free kick early and didn't seem to really get going that often. Did appear to be on limited minutes/ a reduced role, to give other half backers an opportunity.
7. Matthew Kennedy - showcased an impressive overhead marking ability, Matt unfortunately wasn't able to bring the same grunt and clever shepherds one would expect him to provide in the home and away. However he did seem to be playing in somehwat unusual positions, playing more outside and even as deepest forward.
10. Harry McKay - nice kick, decent running patterns also. Mids seemed to like delivering it to him, although slightly better hands would be nice. Didn't play too deep either, which was pleasing to see. Should never ruck however, not unless significant work is put in.
11. Mitch McGovern - brings another dynamic to the forward line, and seems confident to take his shots, something which is pleasing to see considering how gun shy some of our players are. Still a little underdone imo, seemed to drift about 30-50 metres out without a massive amount of intensity.
12. Tom de koning - only played the half, Tommy performed 'ok' in the ruck, nothing super special, still needs to build his craft and strength. Didn't do a whole lot up forward either, although he did flyfor the ball on occasion. Ideally wouldn't be playing too many games, at least early in the season.
14. Liam Jones - the quintessential Jones game, featuring many goal saving marks and efforts, coupled with poor kicks that quickly undid his good work. Simpson around him seemed to help, I feel he does need an experienced head to direct and/or cover his man on occasion. The deepest defender, he seemed to have been given separate instructions to the other defenders perhaps, as he was not involved in their huddles after each goal.
18. Sam Walsh - wow! He is absolutely ready to play round one. Probably the most prolific ball winner on the ground, showcased slick moves in tight and quality disposal, he already seems on top of his own game. Still needs work in understanding stoppage game/positioning, but a really good debut, our best mid and well received by the crowd.
19. Angus Schumacher - played the second half. I'll be honest, I didn't notice him at all. I'm going to assume he'll spend most of the season in the VFL, but who knows.
20. Lachie plowman - was happy with plowmans performance, a good no nonsense game where he played on both small and tall. Gives the same week in week out.
21. Jarrod garlett - ouch. Probably worst on ground. On a positive note, he seemed to have the fitness and desire he perhaps lacked after injuring his shoulder in the jlt last year. However, he simply lacked the composure to play in the back half. This lack of composure hindered any skill component of his game, with multiple turnovers leading to goals. Interesting to see if we persist with him, needs to calm down.
23. Jacob weitering - flew for marks and seemed to have a licence to move across the ground, I was impressed with the commitment by Jacob. However he didn't particularly get involved in our attacking play, which disappointed me considering his quality of disposal. Perhaps a role given to others, similar to Simpson ? Defensively was a bit dissapiinting also.
24. Nic Newman - was severely incensed by one umpire in particular. I liked his left boot, seemed to have ok disposal about him. Can't say I noticed a whole lot in regards to his defensive game however.
28. David cuningham - if David can produce this in proper games, he will play every week. For a confidence player such as cuningham, this could be a very important game. Snagged a few goals in quick succession playing deep forward, and most pleasingly appeared to know how to get to good crumbing positions, something which our other small forward triallees struggled with. When he moved further back into the middle/half forward he impressed me also with his run and carry, as well as his vision. He did drop in and out of the game as expected from a limited possession player like cuningham, but stayed in the game much longer than usual.
29. Cameron Polson - seemed to have bulked up, a proper afl players body now. Unfortunately didn't seem to impact much.
30. Charlie curnow - the crowd loves him! A very dynamic player, Charlie flying around just makes things happen, quite a few smart taps and one percenters. Hoping he can build and produce even more.
35. Ed curnow - played up forward and slotted our first, but seems wasted up there. Struggled to make an impact. With his endurance but comparative lack of burst, really should play mid exclusively.
39. Dale Thomas - his first half really impressed me, if Thomas keeps this up he will once again have a spot in our best 22. Continuing his good form from last year, just doing all the right things, shocking haircut aside.
40. Michael gibbons - another failure of a small forward trialee. Not suited to the position. Found himself too wide on occasion also, essentially playing himself out of the game, also causing his disposals to be under pressure and poor. In the middle however he improved immensely, just interesting if there is a spot for all these one paced mids that struggle to make an impact up forward.
41. Levi casboult - battled manfully in ruck all day, but in reality was really outclassed. Hands weren't as sticky as usual, but can't question his commitment. Does seemed resigned to a VFL spot however.
43. Will setterfield - only played the half, clearly underdone. Just seemed a bit behind the play when he was around it. Hopefully will build match fitness and improve from here.
45. Hugh Goddard - didn't come on till late in the third I believe, still needs to work on communication with the other backs, flying into packs etc. Didn't have much Gametime, didn't do a whole lot is my summary.

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[Soapy V]

Settled midfield with a proper Ruckman will really help. Cripps in with Kennedy Curnow SPS Dow Fisher Walsh will be very good. Once they are all in and on the park together we will see a real difference

 

[Mondyboy]

I just saw highlights. Who said Walsh was a steal at pick one? Spot on.


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