Review Bad, Ugly, and Horrendous vs Hawks

[pjcrows]

Where's the Camporeale quote from?

 

[jackster83]

Where's the Camporeale quote from?

Article on the club website.

 

[pjcrows]

Article on the club website.

Holy hell...

 

[Mike Smyth]

Comment a bit to close to home Mike.


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Not really sure what you mean, but anyway, welcome to the afc board.

 

[Tadpole]

Oi
Ben Hart !
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I have never left a game early - and until this last game thought I never would - and I didn’t
BUT
IF I have to sit through too much more of what got served up Sat, I’m in the bar at 3/4 time !!!!!!!

Had I not brought my daughter to the game, I would have been sorely tempted to head for the gate early, but I didn't want to set a bad example for her and stayed through until the very bitter end.

 

[Scorpus]

Holy hell...

It's comments like this from Campo that give great insights into the mindset of the coaches.

You can see why we select Mackay and Douglas because of these comments/mindset.

 

[CutAboveTheRest]

To quote Camporeale:

"We don't need to change things. A lot of the key indicators were really good".

I'm speechless.

I'm not, in fact, I'd be disappointed if this club didn't say dumb shit like that.

 

[70lethal]

You think because they played those games, it means Hawthorn weren't happy to move them on? They cashed in fringe 22 players, guys who contributed and looked ok in premiership sides but weren't really important in any way, at the peak of their value, replaced them on the cheap with other fringe players like Henderson, and used the capital to move about looking for replacements for the star core players that were close to retirement.

Those players didn't leave, they were pushed. Franklin is the only one who really chose to leave while still at the peak of his star powers.

Hill definitely wasn't pushed. That absolute BS.

 

[arrowman]

This is why score involvements is such a good stat.

Rory Sloane - 8

Josh Jenkins - 4
Lachie Murphy - 3

Tom Doedee - 1

David Mackay - 1

True, but substitute "random HBF" for DMac to take the emotion out of it, and I wouldn't expect a HBF to have as many score involvements as a mid/HFF.

 

[GreyCrow]

What absolute bullshit!

Simon Goodwin, Nigel Smart, Scott Thompson etc etc

Thompson is a club great , he is not a club legend

Things i notice in the stats:

Doedee at 100% when he goes down. Says it all.
Tom Lynch, our HB -> HF link player... 2 i50s all game.
Gibbs, 16 disposals at 62.5% with 7 tackles - WTF were you doing?
Atkins, 10 i50s, more than twice as many as anyone else... if i say our entry into F50 was terrible, is that your fault? or bad forward running patterns?
Douglas, 15 disposals at 47% with 2 points? Just **** off. People want to claim your 250 games of experience, is important, then why did our debutant have a more influential game?

And p.s., stop ******* jogging past on the wing in front of me when there's a contest you could impact, it's ******* disgraceful. If you don't want to put the effort in, you want to be a millionaire, seriously **** off and quit, I'm not interested in the Richard Douglas 22 Game Retirement Tour.

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You should highlight the Atkins tackle count. And notice the difference between he and the other 21

Yes Gibbs was extremely ordinary, however this was because he was sent into defence to cover for Doedee. He had no idea what to do, and was completely useless. Prior to that, he had 7 possessions and 6 tackles and I thought was one one the few mids that was going hard at the man. Putting him into defence made our midfield AND defence weaker. That's on the coaches, particularly after they tried it and it was obvious it wasn't working.

Not so sure he doesnt know how to play it

He started off the BF when he got drafted? and his last year at Carlton I think he play HBF, because somebody mentioned he liked the ball better coming at him

 

[King Elvis]

I think I have a new favourite whipping boy over Campo, Ben Hart.

Our forward structure was abysmal. Don't get me wrong, the entry into our F50 was also a complete and utter joke, (not to mention that our midfield still sucked defensively), but our forwards were never in the right spot, and the smalls were never around to mop up the mess.

There was just 0 cohesion whatsoever. It's only round 1, but I had 0 faith in Hart as a forward coach, and playing on our own home turf, I did not like the look of our forward structure whatsoever. Solid 1/10 score for our so called "attacking weapons" to start the season.

Campo and Hart - what a dream team.

 

[King Elvis]

To quote Camporeale:

"We don't need to change things. A lot of the key indicators were really good".

I'm speechless.

Honestly, what kind of ****ing idiots do we have in the coaches box?

This from Campo.
Hart saying us losing to Hawthorn is irrelevant, because he wasn't at the Club for those losses.

These guys are clowns - and they are the reason we won't win a flag.

I pity Don Pyke.

 

[MRB37]

Holy hell...

I'd suggest you watch the whole interview on YouTube before making up your mind based on one quote.

 

[King Elvis]

That is utter bullshit.
Suckling through 2011 to 2015 played 23, 25, 23 and 25 games - 0 VFL games in that period. Missed a season in that period with a knee reco.
Hill through 2013 to 2016 played 24, 22, 24 and 20 games a season - 0 VFL games in that period
Duryea through 2013 to 2018 played 18,23, 22, 23, 15 and 17 games a season. - 7 VFL games in that period

That's proving his point mate.

They're fringe 22 players; good enough to consistently get selected, but not critical to the success of the team; exactly the type of players who are replaceable, and give you the opportunity to improve your side.

If we were ruthless, our side would look a lot different - and so would our success rate.

 

[MRB37]

That's proving his point mate.

They're fringe 22 players; good enough to consistently get selected, but not critical to the success of the team; exactly the type of players who are replaceable, and give you the opportunity to improve your side.

If we were ruthless, our side would look a lot different - and so would our success rate.

So why are you mad we got rid of Jarryd Lyons?

 

[adelaidecrows]

Sums up the mediocrity cancer that has afflicted this club since 1998.

Appalling. How this muppet continues to be associated with us is astounding. He should seriously STFU.

the stat that killed us was turn overs and bombing it long to contests in the forward line. I dont see any relation to acknowledging the good like inside 50s, contested possessions and clearances to 'OMG we lost, how dare he say anything was good, thats accepting mediocre which this clubs accepted since 1998. See how stupid that is! That sort of bs argument that the club has accepted mediocre is just pigeon level brainless cry babying. take that shit somewhere else.

 

[King Elvis]

We moved on Jarryd Lyons and now there's a whole thread on what a massive **** up that was. This board won't be happy to see any player moved on if they play any level of competent football at another club.

We gave him away because we'd rather select perennial underachieving good blokes, than him.

 

[adelaidecrows]

So why are you mad we got rid of Jarryd Lyons?

queue a homer simpson like brain explosion when they realise they just killed their own argument.

 

[adelaidecrows]

We gave him away because we'd rather select perennial underachieving good blokes, than him.

and stupid statement of the year goes to......

 

[MRB37]

We gave him away because we'd rather select perennial underachieving good blokes, than him.

Perennial underachievers Matt Crouch and Hugh Greenwood?

 

[Bicks]

Fring

That's proving his point mate.

They're fringe 22 players; good enough to consistently get selected, but not critical to the success of the team; exactly the type of players who are replaceable, and give you the opportunity to improve your side.

If we were ruthless, our side would look a lot different - and so would our success rate.

Again bullshit, fringe best 22 AFL players do not consistently play AFL when fit for selection and no VFL, SANFL, WAFL etc.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Perennial underachievers Matt Crouch and Hugh Greenwood?

hahahahaha gold!

 

[King Elvis]

So why are you mad we got rid of Jarryd Lyons?

Because we never gave him a genuine opportunity.
Because we continued to select proven underachievers ahead of him.
Because we gave him away for basically nothing, instead of attempting to maximise his value.
Because we preferred a busted Scott Thommo over him.

Because we traded him out for nothing, and then kept selecting players that he is better than; to the detriment of our team.

When is the last time Richard Douglas had a 25+ possession game, 7 tackle game?

We traded Bernie Vince to correct a management **** up - the right decision, for the wrong reason.

Why didn't we trade Douglas or Mackay or Atkins; or any of the players we all know are mediocre, who have the odd good game, to get something of value for them?

 

[Bicks]

Thompson is a club great , he is not a club legend

OK I'll concede that but he did largely carry our midfield for close to a decade.

 

[NTRabbit]

Fring

Again bullshit, fringe best 22 AFL players do not consistently play AFL when fit for selection and no VFL, SANFL, WAFL etc.

Yes they do? These are the guys at the fringe of the 22, your 16th and 18th and 20th and 22nd selected players, guys who contribute to the whole but aren't a critical part of the structure. Hawthorn won some premierships, inflated the value of their fringe players, and then flipped them for max value, which they were able to convert into replacement star players, while replacing the fringe players with more fringe players, from the DFA list and later picks.