Welcome Welcome to Hawthorn Tom Scully. Congratulations for finally making it onto an AFL list!

[Strapping Young Lad]

Wondering where realhawk is these days? Not a bad effort by our fitness and conditioning guys.

 

[Lotus]

Running around Tom Scully making some news , traded to Hawthorn for 4th round pick .

 

[tige19]

I mean, aside from not playing in forever, not being tackled properly for the same amount of time, having no idea what his sideways movement will be like and the mental damage of having a very very serious injury, then sure.. absolutely no reason.

VFL this week, maybe next if they want to build him into a full game (yes I know he's always very fit). Allow him to believe in his body again, then pull the trigger.

No different on his body playing seniors or VFL, in fact he will get a better surface at the G than at Werribee so again its a better situation for him to play AFL. He is playing so lets move on.

 

[Milkshaker]

Running around Tom Scully making some news , traded to Hawthorn for 4th round pick .

Lol slipped in 'just a fourth round draft pick at the end'. If the footy gods have a sense of humour a 20 and 3 from Scully would be fun.

 

[Flag08]

The aura around our medical staff, whether a myth or not, in combination with Clarko, will keep us at the top of the destination club list for a few more years yet.

 

[Brant]

Scully to be named and then a late out after it pulls in an extra 10k worth of fans through the gates lol

North have read this & will also be naming Scully this weekend

 

[Brant]

No different on his body playing seniors or VFL, in fact he will get a better surface at the G than at Werribee so again its a better situation for him to play AFL. He is playing so lets move on.

The only difference is the impact on the Senior Team, with regard to capped interchange.

If he is only to play 40%-50% game time, then he can do that at a BHH Praccy Match without impact. If he is only to play 50%-60% game time at Senior Level, then it means our other players have to spend longer on the field or burn the interchanges etc.

That’s the only thing I can see being a consideration. If it’s a managed return by %, then it should (IMO) be at BHH. If it’s a full return but may only see him playing 70%-80% game time (based on how he feels & how the game is going) then it should be in the 1sts.

 

[tige19]

The only difference is the impact on the Senior Team, with regard to capped interchange.

If he is only to play 40%-50% game time, then he can do that at a BHH Praccy Match without impact. If he is only to play 50%-60% game time at Senior Level, then it means our other players have to spend longer on the field or burn the interchanges etc.

That’s the only thing I can see being a consideration. If it’s a managed return by %, then it should (IMO) be at BHH. If it’s a full return but may only see him playing 70%-80% game time (based on how he feels & how the game is going) then it should be in the 1sts.

He holds 4 out of the top 5 most kms covered in a game, his tank is probably the best we’ve ever seen in the game.. I think he comes in and play 70-80% as you say.

 

[detox]

Dont forget Tom scully played a full scratch match after JLT 2.

The club arent stupid with this. If hes selected hes fit enough to play. Even at 70% of his output, hes at average afl fitness levels.

Get excited.

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[Brant]

He holds 4 out of the top 5 most kms covered in a game, his tank is probably the best we’ve ever seen in the game.. I think he comes in and play 70-80% as you say.

I agree.


The last thing that I think he needs is miles in the legs. I can’t think why he’d come back just to get some run - I se it as he is either ready to play, or he isn’t; &, if he’s ready to play, it’s in the 1sts

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Dont forget Tom scully played a full scratch match after JLT 2.

The club arent stupid with this. If hes selected hes fit enough to play. Even at 70% of his output, hes at average afl fitness levels.

Get excited.

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And was BOG in that scratch match also.

 

[Rocket72]

Running around Tom Scully making some news , traded to Hawthorn for 4th round pick .

I was a believer that he'd play based on Hodgeyroad, but now that Ch9 has weighed in.... ;-)

Thanks for the share too.

 

[Brishawk]

He holds 4 out of the top 5 most kms covered in a game, his tank is probably the best we’ve ever seen in the game.. I think he comes in and play 70-80% as you say.

They haven’t been using gps very long so hard to make that kind of claim. Harvey clocked 19.6 in a game and I’m pretty sure that would still be the record. I also recall Crawford and Buckley were estimated to run near that kind of distance albeit using some sort of estimation method rather than a modern gps.

 

[Aramis]

#scullf**ked

on this day, you won bigfooty sir.
*tips hat*

 

[KermitJagger]

They haven’t been using gps very long so hard to make that kind of claim. Harvey clocked 19.6 in a game and I’m pretty sure that would still be the record. I also recall Crawford and Buckley were estimated to run near that kind of distance albeit using some sort of estimation method rather than a modern gps.

Considering how poor estimation methods are, particularly back in 2000 when Harvey reportedly covered that distance, I'd back the official 18.3kms covered by Tom Scully to be the record. As great both Crawf and Harvey were, a modern athlete will almost always be superior to an athlete from an older and less professional AFL.

 

[Rocket72]

Considering how poor estimation methods are, particularly back in 2000 when Harvey reportedly covered that distance, I'd back the official 18.3kms covered by Tom Scully to be the record. As great both Crawf and Harvey were, a modern athlete will almost always be superior to an athlete from an older and less professional AFL.

Did you just dis crawf at the expense of Scully? Only on this thread pal, only on this thread.... ;-)

 

[Rocket72]

The only difference is the impact on the Senior Team, with regard to capped interchange.

If he is only to play 40%-50% game time, then he can do that at a BHH Praccy Match without impact. If he is only to play 50%-60% game time at Senior Level, then it means our other players have to spend longer on the field or burn the interchanges etc.

That’s the only thing I can see being a consideration. If it’s a managed return by %, then it should (IMO) be at BHH. If it’s a full return but may only see him playing 70%-80% game time (based on how he feels & how the game is going) then it should be in the 1sts.

The other way to manage load is by position. Nobody seems to be considering him in a position other than the wing where his load will be greatest. Could he hold down another position?

 

[KermitJagger]

Did you just dis crawf at the expense of Scully? Only on this thread pal, only on this thread.... ;-)

I mean, if you take it as a dis.

Seriously though, Harvey and Crawford were only limited by the fact that the AFL wasn't as professional. Training has improved, nutrition has improved, everything has improved.

Crawford and Harvey were easily better players by any measure, but athlete probably not. That could very well be different if they both played now.

 

[bradburygold]

Im sure Crawf and Harvey covered more distance, close to 20km was regularly what was said.

but the HUGE difference is the speed of that distance travelled. Those guys were great runners, but Scully almost matches them and has the fitness to run at full pace for a lot of that.

 

[tige19]

Im sure Crawf and Harvey covered more distance, close to 20km was regularly what was said.

but the HUGE difference is the speed of that distance travelled. Those guys were great runners, but Scully almost matches them and has the fitness to run at full pace for a lot of that.

As a pure runner I’m not sure Crawf or Harvey had the tank Scully, a lot would have to do with sports science no doubt. As players there is little comparison, Crawf and Harvey stand out as 2 of the greatest mids to play the game.

 

[Bugs1977]

Essendon paying 2x first round for Shiel is pretty amazing.

We paid 1 x first rounder (and a second and burton) for Wingard
We paid 1 x first rounder and 3 x second for O'Meara
We paid 1 x first rounder for Tom Mitchell
We paid 1 x 4th rounder for Tom Scully
We paid 1 x first rounder (and Mark Williams) for Burgoyne
We paid 1 x first rounder for Gunston

It's a huge price. Pick 9 and whatever their first pick is this year (6-9).
Crazy trade.
Dododo did a real crazy here.

Don't get me wrong I am the most one eyed Hawthorn fan you will come across but whenever you state the draft picks given up I think it is highly important to list the players that were drafted, could've been drafted or if they picks are still to be used. Doing this gives a better assessment of who won out on the trade for the players received. I guess there is other things to take into consideration as well like some of the players drafted are still in the infancy of their careers and could wind up being anything ala Sam Mitchell or James Sicily etc.

That's just me trying to be diplomatic but I suppose not trades are won or lost as sometimes both parties can win.

 

[Bugs1977]

I just can’t help but wonder how fit he will be. His game is primarily based on being able to outrun everybody else and he’s undoubtably lost some of that ability (for the meantime anyway) since he’s been sidelined.
Wouldn’t be suprised if it takes him a while to get that back.

Hi gifted running ability which makes him so special is a combination of endurance and speed which I don't think will be effected at all. If anything it will be interesting to see how the injury has effected his agility. If he can get through the first couple weeks without any setbacks then like any injury it will mainly be the mental demons he has to push through. We players come back from broken bones or bad knee injuries the sometimes all it takes to push through those demons is to cop a couple of good old hits. This just subconsciously reinforces to the player that they are all good in the mind and body. Scully is a pro and you just know that important things like looking after his injury after the games wether it be icing it or getting massages will be done to the highest.

I remember a fun fact about Scully was that he has NEVER EVER had a drop of alcohol in his life. This really man brings a new meaning to his body is his temple.

 

[Brant]

The other way to manage load is by position. Nobody seems to be considering him in a position other than the wing where his load will be greatest. Could he hold down another position?

Could play HFF as he seems to love a goal. I don’t think that would reduce the load all that much though, not like say playing FP would

 

[Brishawk]

As a pure runner I’m not sure Crawf or Harvey had the tank Scully, a lot would have to do with sports science no doubt. As players there is little comparison, Crawf and Harvey stand out as 2 of the greatest mids to play the game.

During his playing career Crawford was recognised as having potential to be an elite 800m runner. I wouldn’t dismiss his athletic ability. We just don’t have a means of comparison. Of the current players no doubt Scully is top of the tree (prior to injury).

 

[tige19]

During his playing career Crawford was recognised as having potential to be an elite 800m runner. I wouldn’t dismiss his athletic ability. We just don’t have a means of comparison. Of the current players no doubt Scully is top of the tree (prior to injury).

Na no way am I dismissing him at all, he was a freak of nature... I have a business in Kilmore and I have heard many stories of Crawf doing the rounds around town, some of the stories are legendary. Was a cheeky bloke to apparently.