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[Neese]

Has some mongrel too

 

[FootyGeek]

Has some mongrel too

So.... about half a mongrel?

 

[Neese]

Not going there
I'm a classy lady I'll have you know

 

[thylacine60]

same

 

[Dadda Dave]

same

 

[Jimmae]

It will take quite a while to displace Newman, works hard all over the ground, good kick and has some dash too Hes been a quality addition.

Newman will play all year, even if we had no injuries

It's his ability to perform his primary responsibilities in defence that concerns me. If we've got Marchbank, Williamson, Simpson, Jones, Thomas, Garlett, Walsh, Murphy, Weitering, Setterfield and Plowman all fit at the same time, there isn't a role for him in the side.

Right now, we're two fit players away from that reality.

 

[Arr0w]

It's his ability to perform his primary responsibilities in defence that concerns me. If we've got Marchbank, Williamson, Simpson, Jones, Thomas, Garlett, Walsh, Murphy, Weitering, Setterfield and Plowman all fit at the same time, there isn't a role for him in the side.

Right now, we're two fit players away from that reality.

Some of the guys you mentioned aren't backmen, Walsh, Setterfield, Murphy, Garlett

His primary role is to stifle his opponent, peel off as required and deliver quality disposal, all of which he is currently showing, rating top 2 in our defensive unit

Sure we will assess it at year's end

 

[F_therest]

It's his ability to perform his primary responsibilities in defence that concerns me. If we've got Marchbank, Williamson, Simpson, Jones, Thomas, Garlett, Walsh, Murphy, Weitering, Setterfield and Plowman all fit at the same time, there isn't a role for him in the side.

Right now, we're two fit players away from that reality.

Newman gets a game ahead of garlett for sure, especially if willo was in the side providing the dash.

Willo has been out for over a year...and still out now. No guarantee he'll be playing anywhere near his best for most of the season, so Newman might get games ahead while willo works his way back through vfl.

This could very well be simmo's last year.

 

[Jimmae]

Some of the guys you mentioned aren't back men, Walsh, Setterfield, Murphy, Garlett

His primary role is to stifle his opponent, peel off as required and deliver quality disposal, all of which he is currently showing, rating top 2 in our defensive unit

Sure we will assess it at year's end

You'll notice I'm listing the more balanced amongst the outside midfield mix as well. That's why they're there.

Newman gets a game ahead of garlett for sure, especially if willo was in the side providing the dash.
0 No guarantee he'll be playing anywhere near his best for most of the season, so Newman might get games ahead while willo works his way back through vfl.

This could very well be simmo's last year.

Garlett is way more flexible in the number of roles he can play successfully, so he'd get deployed on the wing and do a job for us both ways.

Newman is not a long term replacement for anyone, I'm sorry to report.

 

[Arr0w]

You'll notice I'm listing the more balanced amongst the outside midfield mix as well. That's why they're there.


Garlett is way more flexible in the number of roles he can play successfully, so he'd get deployed on the wing and do a job for us both ways.

Newman is not a long term replacement for anyone, I'm sorry to report.

Garlett should be playing further up the ground, so has no influence on Newman's selection

No one has suggested Newman is a longterm lock, but he is a lock this year

 

[F_therest]

You'll notice I'm listing the more balanced amongst the outside midfield mix as well. That's why they're there.


Garlett is way more flexible in the number of roles he can play successfully, so he'd get deployed on the wing and do a job for us both ways.

Newman is not a long term replacement for anyone, I'm sorry to report.

Not even sure why we're debating Newman tbh, he's been solid in his first 2 games for us.
Not sure why you have a problem with him?

In term of long term replacement, Simmo and Daisy are two obvious examples right there.

 

[F_therest]

Garlett should be playing further up the ground, so has no influence on Newman's selection

No one has suggested Newman is a longterm lock, but he is a lock this year

Having said that he hasn't done anything to suggest he WONT be a long term lock. Been solid so far.

I'd argue he's an obvious long term replacement for Simmo or later down the track Daisy.

Solid 1v1 defender, tough and a good kick.

 

[thylacine60]

I'm missing something - sometimes I reckon jimster watches footy at a whole nother level - and I'm ok sitting downstairs on mine....

 

[Soapy V]

I'm missing something - sometimes I reckon jimster watches footy at a whole nother level - and I'm ok sitting downstairs on mine....

Love his posts but I just don't understand half of them

 

[Soapy V]

Garlett should be playing further up the ground, so has no influence on Newman's selection

No one has suggested Newman is a longterm lock, but he is a lock this year

The day Newman is pushed out we are doing very well

 

[gbatman]

Just got to pick the best players available. Garlett is not in our best 22. He's not playing further up the ground because there's a midfield full of players ahead of him. He's not going to play forward because he played forward all of last year and showed nothing. He's filling a role we need him to fill.

Currently our backline is missing Docherty, Williamson and Marchbank from it's best 22. When they are fit and have form they will come back in and who they replace is dependant on what roles they can play. Williamson probably replaces Garlett. Marchbank is an upgrade on Plowman but only when he forms some real solid match fitness. Docherty is an upgrade on either Simpson, Thomas or Newman.

Newman is borderline but with Simpson at his age, newman is a replacement there I feel. He's also a replacement for Thomas.

 

[Iamcarlton]

Just got to pick the best players available. Garlett is not in our best 22. He's not playing further up the ground because there's a midfield full of players ahead of him. He's not going to play forward because he played forward all of last year and showed nothing. He's filling a role we need him to fill.

Currently our backline is missing Docherty, Williamson and Marchbank from it's best 22. When they are fit and have form they will come back in and who they replace is dependant on what roles they can play. Williamson probably replaces Garlett. Marchbank is an upgrade on Plowman but only when he forms some real solid match fitness. Docherty is an upgrade on either Simpson, Thomas or Newman.

Newman is borderline but with Simpson at his age, newman is a replacement there I feel. He's also a replacement for Thomas.

I suspect Garlett was carrying a shoulder injury most of last year so I think we should cut him a little slack on last year .
If and that's a big if we ever get our best defence together id give Garlett another go forward .
Seems hesitant to me on when to go and when not in the backline doesn't look like its coming natural to him playing defence but that could change somewhat if he gets more games there .

 

[bmaurizio]

You'll notice I'm listing the more balanced amongst the outside midfield mix as well. That's why they're there.


Garlett is way more flexible in the number of roles he can play successfully, so he'd get deployed on the wing and do a job for us both ways.

Newman is not a long term replacement for anyone, I'm sorry to report.

Disagree with you Jimmie, reckon Newman is sound addition, given team development stage.
Has courage a beautiful kick and is utilitarian.
Also add maturity and coming from a successful team culture, a person whom appreciates the opportunity of helping relaunch of a mighty club. Reckon Nick’s is an astute acquisition at low cost.

 

[bmaurizio]

I suspect Garlett was carrying a shoulder injury most of last year so I think we should cut him a little slack on last year .
If and that's a big if we ever get our best defence together id give Garlett another go forward .
Seems hesitant to me on when to go and when not in the backline doesn't look like its coming natural to him playing defence but that could change somewhat if he gets more games there .

Agree would love to see Garlett, Fasolo and Murphy at the feet of Harry, Charlie and Mitch, as their synchronization improves they’ll fire up big time.

 

[Iamcarlton]

Agree would love to see Garlett, Fasolo and Murphy at the feet of Harry, Charlie and Mitch, as their synchronization improves they’ll fire up big time.

Just don't like the mix forward atm, early doors last year Garlett looked dangerous so I think a fitter Garlett in a better side may be somewhat different .
Have to remember how bad we were last year certainly wouldn't have been an easy task getting a kick in our forward line for anybody .

 

[gbatman]

I suspect Garlett was carrying a shoulder injury most of last year so I think we should cut him a little slack on last year .
If and that's a big if we ever get our best defence together id give Garlett another go forward .
Seems hesitant to me on when to go and when not in the backline doesn't look like its coming natural to him playing defence but that could change somewhat if he gets more games there .

I think he was fit enough to do something last year and he did nothing. I get the feeling that is what our MC have decided as well and we won't be trying it unless there are injuries or it's trialled in the VFL.

I would possibly try Garlett as a high half forward in the VFL for a bit if he gets pushed out of the backline but I feel the he will quite possible be one of those players who's not quite good enough. Still time for him to get his defensive game right but even so is probably still backup.

Gives us depth and that's important. We've certainly had worse playing defence the last few years.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Noway does Williamson go past Newman this season. If he gets back and plays a few AFL games then we should be very happy.

 

[Robertio]

After two games Newman stays and would love Garlett to be given plenty of time, something there that i like.

 

[JustaBattler]

Garlett's last AFL game for Carlton in 2018 was July - he is 22 and has played a total of 30 games of AFL - 13 of them for Carlton. 2018 was a disaster for him as he did his shoulder bumping Stephens in his second JLT game and tried to 'endure' his way through the season with a bung shoulder due to injuries to other players for a total of 11 games. To put things in context he has less game time than most of the kids SOS has recruited.

I think it is fair enough to give a player at least 50 games before writing them off - it is pretty obvious Garlett is playing a lot like a forward trying to learn to be a defender - he has an attacking mindset sometimes unsuited to a situation at hand - and his instincts as a forward sometimes take precedence when they shouldn't as a defender. He has a few more weeks to show that he can be that small faster defender the side is missing until Marchbank/Williamson and McCreadie come back into calculations - or Shumaker/Stocker put their hands up.

 

[Soapy V]

I suspect Garlett was carrying a shoulder injury most of last year so I think we should cut him a little slack on last year .
If and that's a big if we ever get our best defence together id give Garlett another go forward .
Seems hesitant to me on when to go and when not in the backline doesn't look like its coming natural to him playing defence but that could change somewhat if he gets more games there .

Garlett is not a forward and it would be madness to move him after training and being told he is set for HB this year. First time he’s been fit and had shown some good signs and imo is improving. A bit of trust and confidence along with some patience and we could have a very good player. Has the talent