Preview Round 3, 2019: Fremantle v St.Kilda - Optus Stadium, Sunday 7th April, 3:20PM AWST

[bird_man]

It'll be interesting to see who plays tonight.

I see Stuv is named on the Barnaby French?

 

[plugger66]

That side picked itself is what I'm saying. It was the result of 2 external forces, being injuries and the increased necessity to win. It was the best available from limited stock with all emphasis on that single week. It wasn't balanced or part of any plan, it was just the best we could hash together.

Yes I get that but what side should we have picked if we were rebuilding as you claim we would be doing if Richo wasn't coaching? And we did get mature players for the reason that they would be ready if we needed them. That's thinking for the future and the now. An 18 year old may never play a game and so may a 22 year old but if either prove themselves they could still have up to 10 years in the system. That could be 2 rebuilds. With the quality of footballer dropping which I believe is the case because of 18 sides more and more mature players will be taken. That isn't suggesting they are doing it for the now

 

[George]

Why is Wilkie missing. The side hasn’t been picked yet. I wouldn’t be going off another website. Some just say the first 4 names are playing and the next 4 are emergencies. It’s like naming the side. Probably 5 or 6 don’t even play in the position they were named. Surely Wilkie will play. Going to be tough to win over there. Losing jack hurts. Freo by 25 unfortunately. Got last week wrong so let’s hope it continues

No idea. Hope he plays, he has been good. But again maybe on a managed program early.

 

[FQFjt]

Logic with Steven seems to be that the Hawthorn home game in front of a big St Kilda crowd is far more important for the club.

This is a big opportunity for our young midfield who really have no senior players to fall back on this time. I think we can win, but we will need big performances from Steele, Gresham and Ross.

 

[St Muir]

just had a good read and wow. they're so quick to take things so damn seriously. i mean it's not like i went over there and posted it. they actively sought out something to be outraged with! all over an attempt to take this piss on here.

having said that i've lost track with the amount of posters they've labelled all kinds of things, including their own. someone says anything remotely negative about their club and they're swinging at it.

its 2019 and they're still throwing mental health around as a way to insult people. pathetic really, but predictable. you'd think given the issues in broader society and the good work being done on here to de-stigmatise it, they wouldn't be so quick to throw it around as an insult.

"oh look that guy just said something i don't like, he must be mentally ill"

Maybe the 2 hour time difference accounts for them being behind the times?

 

[lewdogs]

Gee talk about a delayed post. I got down to training today before the boys jet off to Perth. It would be an understatement if I were to tell you that spirits were high at the club.

Boys went through about an hour or so of match-sim stuff. It was pretty high intensity. Longy was superb - clearly wants to make amends for what happened last week with his omission. Speed is what the team focused on today. High intensity transition work. Team defense, speed out of stoppage, kicking long, using their legs to break away. I've got a sneaking suspicion that the boys will revel in the huge ground of Optus Stadium.

No injury concerns. Roma moved freely. Admittedly did have the ankle strapped but didn't look like it was bothering him.

No idea why Wilkie is missing, maybe managing his program ala Stuv?

After the match sim drills the boys did some of their own stuff. Gresh, JB, Steeley, Longy and Matty Parker were over near the boundary where I was standing and they were taking some shots at goal. Club posted a video of the one Steeley drilled - was first class. Drop punt on the left foot tight up against the boundary. He copped some shit from the coaches before he slotted it so his response was pretty funny.

Think we had a full group out there. Couldn't see anyone missing of note that we don't know about already. Few boys were in the gym, too. Everyone is on their own programs and some have their minutes managed. Jono Marsh took part too by the way, which was nice to see. Big lad. I think Richo said he'll play in the 2's this weekend.

Got to say though from what I saw today and the evidence of the last four weeks, I am confident we will give Sunday a real shake. I think the boys have really bought into this underdog mentality. Crossed off the list by everyone in the media. Injuries to key players. An embattled coach and administration. Whilst it was somewhat deserved, we copped a huge whack over the summer. Every session I've been to post-Christmas has been fire in the belly type stuff. They weren't bullshitting us when they went public and said that they need to rectify what happened last year.

I think our game style and team defense will keep us in the game on Sunday. It'll be all about making the most of our opportunities, especially in a hostile environment. Got to keep a lid on it, but if we can pull this off over there in Perth it may be the catalyst for our entire year, if last week wasn't exactly that already.

I am equally interested to see how the boys respond after our first loss - whenever that may be, because it will show how far we've come if we get back on the horse and perform well the following week, or slump back into old habits and let the season get away from us.

Any sign of Hannebery?

 

[lewdogs]

Maybe the 2 hour time difference accounts for them being behind the times?

3 hours at the moment

 

[MUFKilda]

I'm starting to think I've been too negative and we can get up against Feralmantle. Really looking forward to bounce up.

 

[hayes]

Load management in round 3 is a load of crap but that’s modern sport. I think we’ll see Long in for Steven because going by his stats he’s been playing a lot of forward and we need speed. Maybe even Clark for Dunstan because these big grounds just don’t suit him.

 

[Yawkey way]

Fyfe, Mundy and Walters are the big three we need to shut down imo.

Fremantle are a big test over on their home turf but if you can keep those guys in check then you go a long way to winning. The AFL site has an extended bench of eight including Wilkie, I liked his game and think he would be really stiff to be dropped.

Just on being stiff I thought brown was ok for Essendon last week there were a lot worse imo but out he went. I really hate Essendon it’s pretty funny that one of the more interesting games this round is between the two paper tigers.

 

[Yawkey way]

Stuv's a loss no doubt, but it's all about our system more then an individual player as we saw in the JLT & for my 2 bob's worth i think Long will play as Stuv has played more of a forward role in the past couple then a mid & Longy can have a burst in there if required.

Very lucky if he does, from most accounts he didn’t do much for sandy last week.

I think Clark would be a better choice, on the big ground another midfield rotation would be handy.

 

[bird_man]

Stuv had 9 clearances game one. Luckily us getting off to a better start round two meant we didn't need him in there quitet as much.

I think replacing him with a small forward would be a mistake.

 

[The Enemy Within]

Very lucky if he does, from most accounts he didn’t do much for sandy last week.

I think Clark would be a better choice, on the big ground another midfield rotation would be handy.

You can count on 1 hand the amount of times Long has played well at Sandy he plays better at the higher level & he's speed will be crucial over there.

 

[George]

Any sign of Hannebery?

Didn't see him, but I think he is on light duties at the moment.

 

[Yawkey way]

You can count on 1 hand the amount of times Long has played well at Sandy he plays better at the higher level & he's speed will be crucial over there.

He opened the door imo and the guys who are playing small forward all deserve to stay in the team. With stuv out we are a mid down so I prefer Clark this week.

 

[stavro#4]

Great chance for this side to develop themselves and their identity with out Jack this week.

It could be one of those games where you see the growth from boys to men if we win. Exciting I think

..... now expect a 8-1 goal quarter from Freo and we get pumped Haha!

 

[gringo2011]

Stuv's a loss no doubt, but it's all about our system more then an individual player as we saw in the JLT & for my 2 bob's worth i think Long will play as Stuv has played more of a forward role in the past couple then a mid & Longy can have a burst in there if required.

Ironically, Stuv has only been average so far playing up forward and bringing in Long or Young might actually be an upgrade for that position. Pretty bizarre you can say that about leaving your best player out though.

 

[BrutThough]

Any sign of Hannebery?

Dinny's observations of Hanners yesterday

 

[BrutThough]

Long is the player in the extended squad named on the field for Sandy. Probably suggests he is playing for them this week.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Yes I get that but what side should we have picked if we were rebuilding as you claim we would be doing if Richo wasn't coaching? And we did get mature players for the reason that they would be ready if we needed them. That's thinking for the future and the now. An 18 year old may never play a game and so may a 22 year old but if either prove themselves they could still have up to 10 years in the system. That could be 2 rebuilds. With the quality of footballer dropping which I believe is the case because of 18 sides more and more mature players will be taken. That isn't suggesting they are doing it for the now

I wasn't arguing the side picked Pluggs, l just disagreed that those 5 blokes were evidence of a development approach because of the above. We just had no other cattle available at the time which is still largely the case.
I reckon were over the hump now and will resume more normal running, but l put not much faith in these 2 wins and like George said, seeing how they (players and selectors ) respond to a loss will be far more telling.

 

[VDS66]

I don’t understand what you are saying. One minute you are saying we are picking sides to win and are coaching for the now and now it seems you are arguing against yourself. And sides do get picked with that little experience especially when you have 4 or 5 regulars unavailable. Who is to say some of them would have played anyway. Of course it was a plan to get experienced state league players and you recruit those types hoping some will be ready straight away. I agree with your word bias. You have shown it by arguing both ways.

Just saved me a heap of typing... Thanks.

 

[Jaxsons]

just had a good read and wow. they're so quick to take things so damn seriously. i mean it's not like i went over there and posted it. they actively sought out something to be outraged with! all over an attempt to take this piss on here.

having said that i've lost track with the amount of posters they've labelled all kinds of things, including their own. someone says anything remotely negative about their club and they're swinging at it.

its 2019 and they're still throwing mental health around as a way to insult people. pathetic really, but predictable. you'd think given the issues in broader society and the good work being done on here to de-stigmatise it, they wouldn't be so quick to throw it around as an insult.

"oh look that guy just said something i don't like, he must be mentally ill"

Must be lefties.

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[The_Steadier]

Gee talk about a delayed post. I got down to training today before the boys jet off to Perth. It would be an understatement if I were to tell you that spirits were high at the club.

Boys went through about an hour or so of match-sim stuff. It was pretty high intensity. Longy was superb - clearly wants to make amends for what happened last week with his omission. Speed is what the team focused on today. High intensity transition work. Team defense, speed out of stoppage, kicking long, using their legs to break away. I've got a sneaking suspicion that the boys will revel in the huge ground of Optus Stadium.

No injury concerns. Roma moved freely. Admittedly did have the ankle strapped but didn't look like it was bothering him.

No idea why Wilkie is missing, maybe managing his program ala Stuv?

After the match sim drills the boys did some of their own stuff. Gresh, JB, Steeley, Longy and Matty Parker were over near the boundary where I was standing and they were taking some shots at goal. Club posted a video of the one Steeley drilled - was first class. Drop punt on the left foot tight up against the boundary. He copped some shit from the coaches before he slotted it so his response was pretty funny.

Think we had a full group out there. Couldn't see anyone missing of note that we don't know about already. Few boys were in the gym, too. Everyone is on their own programs and some have their minutes managed. Jono Marsh took part too by the way, which was nice to see. Big lad. I think Richo said he'll play in the 2's this weekend.

Got to say though from what I saw today and the evidence of the last four weeks, I am confident we will give Sunday a real shake. I think the boys have really bought into this underdog mentality. Crossed off the list by everyone in the media. Injuries to key players. An embattled coach and administration. Whilst it was somewhat deserved, we copped a huge whack over the summer. Every session I've been to post-Christmas has been fire in the belly type stuff. They weren't bullshitting us when they went public and said that they need to rectify what happened last year.

I think our game style and team defense will keep us in the game on Sunday. It'll be all about making the most of our opportunities, especially in a hostile environment. Got to keep a lid on it, but if we can pull this off over there in Perth it may be the catalyst for our entire year, if last week wasn't exactly that already.

I am equally interested to see how the boys respond after our first loss - whenever that may be, because it will show how far we've come if we get back on the horse and perform well the following week, or slump back into old habits and let the season get away from us.

Not mentioning what a specimen max king is, and a detailed description of how he alpha dogged everyone who came near him in ANY training report ...should be permaban worthy.

 

[Persevering Saint]

My mail is that Lonie will be thrown into the ruck if Marshall gets injured.

Hurley reckons he'd do alright.

 

[Crusty Undies]

I think people are overrating how important Stuv has been so far this year. He's always good but he practically carried our midfield last year, this year in comparison he's playing as a bit part forward who pinch hits in the middle until he rebuilds the fitness he lost over the last few weeks of preseason. So far this year we haven't had Stuv as we've come to expect at all anyway.