Opinion Where has the club gone wrong?

[Papa G]

I can’t go into detail but you’d be surprised by the dirty pool played by port that screwed over the sanfl releasing some of the shackles.

Go on.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Our leaders don’t step up in big moments. I’ve have lost so many games under 10 points since Hinkley came along. Win most of them and we would had played finals every year.

In the end a 4 year contract for an underperforming coach was always a mistake

 

[Papa G]

I've received a response. It's nothing interesting, but i've asked his permission to post it here. Will see.

 

[Steve Dore]

Our leaders don’t step up in big moments. We have lost so many games under 10 points since Hinkley came along. ...

The obvious solution to this issue is to have co-captains.

..... oh wait

 

[Byrons Firen]

I did not renew my 11 game membership after over 40 years of supporting the PAFC, so did my mate also a 40+ year member.
We got a 3 gamer so at least I can catch up with some buddies a few times this year.
If there seems a good worthwhile game we can always get tickets at the gate.

I have been worn down (again) and last year's collapse was the final straw. I got sick of leaving games angry and stressed.
Even if we won it felt like a loss.

I don't like appreciate being told I'm not a "loyal" supporter because I don't keep pissing money and weekends away when my club is clearly heading down shit creek with no captain and no rudder and as i see it no chance of change anytime soon.
40+ years of paying and attending games is not a snowflake, armchair supporter.

I *will* get my full membership again but only after I see changes at my club, underachieving, stubborn, arrogant, lazy losers booted out, a game plan that is robust, brave and exciting - even if we lose at the end of the day I *need* to know we have tried.

(I guess Richo would not like to hear all that though, and I'm not on twitter)

Your not alone mate it hurts to say.

 

[Steve Dore]

This request for feedback only seems to be on Twitter. No email??

If so then Matthew is cutting out many of us middle-aged respondents (just turned 70yo) [emoji41]

Though highly computer literate I don't do twits as a rule, and don't know any country people that do.

If only the club could get a high-performing intergenerational engagement specialist on the board the more mature members like us wouldn't feel so left out.

 

[*PAF]

Our leaders don’t step up in big moments. I’ve have lost so many games under 10 points since Hinkley came along. Win most of them and we would had played finals every year.

In the end a 4 year contract for an underperforming coach was always a mistake

Not having a go at you PA but this is where we have gone wrong.

The club promoting and supporters accepting games that were long gone way before a few junk time goals made the score respectable as close losses is something that shows where we have gone wrong.

Some of those close losses were pathetic and should be called as such.

 

[MrPlow]

How soon can that dog start at PAFC?

 

[PA88]

To recap:

• “Little club from Alberton” [Koch]
• “All of them significantly bigger than us” [Thomas]
• “Port Adelaide has always punched above its weight” [Thomas]
• “No-one was complaining when we won five in a row” [Lade]
• “At 11-4 Ken was a superhero” [Koch]
• “There is absolutely no doubt in my mind. This is the best win I’ve been involved with at Port Adelaide, including finals.” [Hinkley]
• “We’ve got a long way to go to become anything like the Richmond Football Club.” [Hinkley]

There are no doubt more putrid soundbytes I’ve forgotten in the wake of unconvincing wins and dreadful losses.

Just what the hell are they playing at down there?

It’s like a race to the bottom in terms of lowering expectations and overinflating what should be pretty standard scenarios for a club which should be in the upper echelon of the league talentwise.

And they seem surprised that the natives are restless.

I remember somewhere hearing Lade's comment that you typed above and my only thought in response at that time was ... but you guys kept telling us that "the best was yet to come".

"The best was yet to come". Hinkley had said it and now we're a long way off from becoming Richmond.

There can't be a clash of mentalities Ken. You can't cop a disappointment and allow that to alter your mindset and standards but that's been Ken and the club for some years now.

 

[thundercloud]

A quick count up of the top contributors for this post:

Total individual posters 138

Top 10 by number of posts 141 posts
51 posters with 1 post each.
49 posters with either 2,3,4 posts 143 posts

100 posters with 194 posts compared to 10 posters with 141 posts.

So the question in my mind is whether the thread can be biased by top posting posters?

I was sort of thinking of doing this sort of analysis just when the lost faith thread disappeared into the icloud, trash can or archived for prosperity???

 

[PA88]

Those that have said these losing statements such as Koch's and the like are those that the Creed says to sweep out of the club no matter who they are.

You become what you declare. When the Creed was penned the leaders understood that the wrong mentality by word or by thought can destroy clubs. The Creed formalised the right mindset of what the club had been, what it was, and what it was to be in the future, and with the message to search and destroy any thought contrary to the right mindset.

 

[rumoursofwinter]

I just saw this article tucked away on the afl site.

What is the 'Kennedy Cup'? Is this Port Adelaide.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-14/afl-kennedy-enter-china-partnership-to-progress-the-game

I hope they paid cash upfront. I wish we would go back to myatm and soaring whoever they were.

 

[Doctor Feel]

A quick count up of the top contributors for this post:

Total individual posters 138

Top 10 by number of posts 141 posts
51 posters with 1 post each.
49 posters with either 2,3,4 posts 143 posts

100 posters with 194 posts compared to 10 posters with 141 posts.

So the question in my mind is whether the thread can be biased by top posting posters?

I was sort of thinking of doing this sort of analysis just when the lost faith thread disappeared into the icloud, trash can or archived for prosperity???

 

[Alyx]

A quick count up of the top contributors for this post:

Total individual posters 138

Top 10 by number of posts 141 posts
51 posters with 1 post each.
49 posters with either 2,3,4 posts 143 posts

100 posters with 194 posts compared to 10 posters with 141 posts.

So the question in my mind is whether the thread can be biased by top posting posters?

I was sort of thinking of doing this sort of analysis just when the lost faith thread disappeared into the icloud, trash can or archived for prosperity???

 

[PA88]

A quick count up of the top contributors for this post:

Total individual posters 138

Top 10 by number of posts 141 posts
51 posters with 1 post each.
49 posters with either 2,3,4 posts 143 posts

100 posters with 194 posts compared to 10 posters with 141 posts.

So the question in my mind is whether the thread can be biased by top posting posters?

I was sort of thinking of doing this sort of analysis just when the lost faith thread disappeared into the icloud, trash can or archived for prosperity???

You do realise that you 'liked' my post that supports cleaning out Koch and all those like him from the club. Just checking if that is a mistake?

 

[Lagooner]

Who would’ve thought that in a thread titled “Where has the club gone wrong” there’d be a bunch of people expressing their opinions on where they think the club has gone wrong?

 

[Doctor Feel]

Who would’ve thought that in a thread titled “Where has the club gone wrong” there’d be a bunch of people expressing their opinions on where they think the club has gone wrong?

Are Nazi rallies biased against Jews?

We discuss this, and more at 6.

 

[thundercloud]

You do realise that you 'liked' my post that supports cleaning out Koch and all those like him from the club. Just checking if that is a mistake?

I liked the reminder re the creed, my take at the moment is that there has been change re the creed and this has been moving on players and new coaches. That is still to be played out. My take on koch etc is to acknowledge what he and others have achieved re many many things. We all would like more success and that is still playing out.

 

[OneGreatClub]

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But he’s getting creative at least

 

[PA88]

I liked the reminder re the creed, my take at the moment is that there has been change re the creed and this has been moving on players and new coaches. That is still to be played out. My take on koch etc is to acknowledge what he and others have achieved re many many things. We all would like more success and that is still playing out.

The Creed is not only about sweeping out players and assistant coaches but those with loser mindsets and the loser talk. Anything that conditions Port Adelaide to think inferior has to go, from top to bottom but they didn't reach the top. They cleaned out from the middle down.

So it's not playing out it's prolonging the inevitable.

 

[*PAF]

I liked the reminder re the creed, my take at the moment is that there has been change re the creed and this has been moving on players and new coaches. That is still to be played out. My take on koch etc is to acknowledge what he and others have achieved re many many things. We all would like more success and that is still playing out.

What are those many many things?

 

[thundercloud]

What are those many many things?

A quick response as about to have pub meal of 2 gloroius cooked lamb shanks for 22.50.

Obvious is china
Pre match entertainment in and out of ground, many thingees.
CommuneTy involvement young aboriginal academy
acknowledgement of kuarna before game.
Crowd participation before game.
Aboriginal camps and officer
General communety involvement is russell still going to schools?
Range of membership options
Finances of club
Free train ride to game.
Giving out flags before game for crowd to express SOLIDARITY.
Trade and recruitment in the last draft.
I have found them to be approachable before game
If you wanted to have a polite hello to kt beforegame while he is waiting i reckon you would be acknolwledged
A safe environment for families
I think that marshall dropped partly for duty of care as he was getting a number of hits. This a work place and welfare for young kids is v important.
Able to attract players from other clubs
Informing members by regular newsletters and members meeting

Time to go

 

[Papa G]

A quick response as about to have pub meal of 2 gloroius cooked lamb shanks for 22.50.

Obvious is china
Pre match entertainment in and out of ground, many thingees.
CommuneTy involvement young aboriginal academy
acknowledgement of kuarna before game.
Crowd participation before game.
Aboriginal camps and officer
General communety involvement is russell still going to schools?
Range of membership options
Finances of club
Free train ride to game.
Giving out flags before game for crowd to express SOLIDARITY.
Trade and recruitment in the last draft.
I have found them to be approachable before game
If you wanted to have a polite hello to kt beforegame while he is waiting i reckon you would be acknolwledged
A safe environment for families
I think that marshall dropped partly for duty of care as he was getting a number of hits. This a work place and welfare for young kids is v important.
Able to attract players from other clubs
Informing members by regular newsletters and members meeting

Time to go

This is some of the most lol worthy shit I've ever read. Sounds like a weekend away at Bible Camp.

 

[dirty2]

This is some of the most lol worthy shit I've ever read. Sounds like a weekend away at Bible Camp.

Next we will all be naked tied to a tree.

 

[Magpiespower]

Legit surprised Ken's Greatest Defender didn't even come close to cracking the top ten - btw where's Daza? - anyway, stop shitposting and go have some glorious lamb shanks, it'll make u feel better u Hinkley-H8ing campaigners...