Society/Culture At Least 42 Dead And Hundreds Injured In Church And Hotel Bombings (Now 259 Dead)

[FireKrakouer]

I went there with a bunch of friends, amongst which was my partner of two years, who is a woman, her girlfriend and a queer boy I am currently dating, as we are all polyamorous.

wat

 

[Opts]

Sent from my HTC 2PQ910 using Tapatalk

These are the people that the "absent posters" repeatedly defend as being entitled to come to our country for a better life.

 

[Opts]

wat

It's a Geelong thing.

 

[awaremind]

The enemy of your enemy is your friend, until the mutual enemy is gone.

I'd be surprised if the Islamic fundamentals see any difference between those viewed as left or right.

Be honest I’d think they’d kill either unless we submitted but they’d think less of those who take drugs , accept homosexuals , have feminist views etc.

 

[petedavo]

Sri Lanka Government issued wanted posters, but screws up big time in sourcing pictures off the internet, that have the same name, but are different people to those actually wanted.

There's a twitter thread about it here»



Sent from my HTC 2PQ910 using Tapatalk

 

[Mike Smyth]

Shitting on Christians has been in vogue for at least a couple decades now and at the same time we have seen a decline in traditional family values and the general decencency of people.
I am not even close to religious, never have been, and will call out the flaws in Christianity as readily as anyone else but I am kind of starting to feel like we could do with a little more of the good that religion can bring out in people.

Agreed.

It's clear Christianity is the lefts and media's preferred whipping boy. The negative side of other more extreme religions are not only ignored but they are encouraged to prosper while given full protection. One of the more confusing aspects of todays leftist (and there are many) is their support and defense of Islam. Doesn't Islam go against most of their traditional beliefs. It doesn't get much more "right wing" than Islam.

Anyway maybe at some stage us atheists will have to rejoin the flock. I'm willing to waste 3 hours every Sunday asleep in a Church pew just out of spite.

 

[Whit3y]

sherb Gough cartwright Socrates2 Nikita Blue Chief Maggie5 Number37

You’re all welcome to post in this thread. We need your views. Some of these other posters in this thread have gone off track.

I thought goffy posted in every thread.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Is was created by Americans under Obama
Al queda was created by Americans under Carter.

You have nothing to offer but properganda.

Isis existed before 2008.

 

[Rusty Brookes]

I don’t care about Aly. It’s obvious which side he will choose, which interpretation he will make.

It’s the sympathetic hyper-liberals and idiotic leftists I will never understand. Islam runs in direct opposition to their professed beliefs, and they give it succour in order to either defeat conservatism or present as anti-racist.

Can I confirm something because I must admit I sometimes get lost in these conversations. Does leftist = left wing? And are all liberals - hyper- liberal?

I may as all put my cards on the table - left leaning atheist. I consider myself pretty progressive on most issues. I reckon you have the right to follow your religion but all religion is open to criticism and must work within the legal framework of a pluralist/secular society. I agree that Islam as a religion runs counter to many ideals that I would consider progressive but so do all religions.

Anyone that tries to imposes their religious beliefs on the way of life I choose to lead can piss off. This runs the gamut from the extreme (terrorist attacks) to more mundane activities (eg posting on social media). Part of me feels uncomfortable with some of the posting is the logic I think (and I note I may be wrong here and happy to be told otherwise) that Islam has an issue with extremist terror therefore all Muslim are extremists. This therefore makes Christianity good so stop criticising Christianity.

By the way Aly's article in The Age looks pretty measured to me.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asi...s-are-uniquely-senseless-20190425-p51h2v.html

Fire away.

 

[petedavo]

Sri Lanka Government revises death toll due to double counting mistake.



Sent from my HTC 2PQ910 using Tapatalk

 

[Taylor]

It's quite ugly stuff thinking of body counts being tallied by counting the number of hands and feet found.

 

[FalcoX]

No, it wasn’t fact. Sri Lanka is not in the Middle East. It is in South Asia.

Islamism predates Western involvement in the Middle East by centuries.

You are an apologist for Islamofascism, and a very dim one at that.

A) your continued inability to state which part of my post wasn't factual speaks for itself.

B) I don't recall saying Sri Lanka is in the middle east so you are arguing a point I haven't made so, well done.

C) IS came about and is the direct result of illegal western invasions in the middle east and has spread elsewhere since then. To refuse to acknowledge this shows who the real dimwit is.

D) I have made no apologies for IS and detest them and their ilk. You on the other hand can't bring yourself to criticise the west for starting and fueling conflicts that have claimed the lives of millions. Chew on that.

Islam created IS and Islamic terrorism, absolute nothing to do with the west or any other religion. The fact that many more Muslims have died at the hands of these cowards should at least give you that hint.

Don't apologise for these pricks

A) Islam was there for a millennium yet it took until the western invasion of Iraq for IS to come about. Now I am not a rocket surgeon but to say the west had nothing to do with it seems like a laughably inane claim to make.

B) That muslims are the main target for groups like this actually doesn't help to make your point that Islam is the cause of it all unless you are trying to say Islam teaches its followers to kill each other. If that is the case then I am surprised there is still so many Muslims out there..

Have a hug, fella
View attachment 661832

Classic self loathing syndrome ^^^^^^

Thanks for contributing absolutely nothing to the discussion, fellas.

 

[Taylor]

A) Islam was there for a millennium yet it took until the western invasion of Iraq for IS to come about. Now I am not a rocket surgeon but to say the west had nothing to do with it seems like a laughably inane claim to make.

The group that wanted to set up a Caliphate was Western driven?

That might be the state (pun intended) of Islam for the majority of it's history.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Sri Lanka Government issued wanted posters, but screws up big time in sourcing pictures off the internet, that have the same name, but are different people to those actually wanted.

****ing amateur hour.

 

[Ron The Bear]

By the way Aly's article in The Age looks pretty measured to me.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asi...s-are-uniquely-senseless-20190425-p51h2v.html

Measured, but offers little insight. IS is spreading its tentacles throughout SE Asia, and this extends them a little further. There is no insight into Islamism's growing popularity in the region, or why it clearly has currency with wealthy, well-adjusted Muslims and not just the disaffected as previously claimed.

 

[Present Not Past]

Can I confirm something because I must admit I sometimes get lost in these conversations. Does leftist = left wing? And are all liberals - hyper- liberal?

I may as all put my cards on the table - left leaning atheist. I consider myself pretty progressive on most issues. I reckon you have the right to follow your religion but all religion is open to criticism and must work within the legal framework of a pluralist/secular society. I agree that Islam as a religion runs counter to many ideals that I would consider progressive but so do all religions.

Anyone that tries to imposes their religious beliefs on the way of life I choose to lead can piss off. This runs the gamut from the extreme (terrorist attacks) to more mundane activities (eg posting on social media). Part of me feels uncomfortable with some of the posting is the logic I think (and I note I may be wrong here and happy to be told otherwise) that Islam has an issue with extremist terror therefore all Muslim are extremists. This therefore makes Christianity good so stop criticising Christianity.

By the way Aly's article in The Age looks pretty measured to me.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asi...s-are-uniquely-senseless-20190425-p51h2v.html

Fire away.

I remember in the 1990s when the USSR was breaking apart, the old Communist Party staged what was labelled then as a Right Wing backlash against Boris Yeltsin (Pro Russia/Anti USSR) in Moscow. So make of that as you will.
To me, Right Wing will always mean Conservative and Left Wing will always mean liberal/Progressive.

 

[petedavo]

Measured, but offers little insight. IS is spreading its tentacles throughout SE Asia, and this extends them a little further. There is no insight into Islamism's growing popularity in the region, or why it clearly has currency with wealthy, well-adjusted Muslims and not just the disaffected as previously claimed.

Indonesia, Malaysia, Southern Thailand, and Southern Philippines, have been predominantly Muslim for centuries. They've had their own insurgent terrorist problems long before IS. Some of these groups have been turned by IS for example Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) & East Indonesia Mujahideen (MIT), but the majority still owe no allegiance to anyone except themselves, eg the BRN MARA-Patani in Thailand, BIFF, MILF etc in Southern Philippines as they are generally Separatists and don't consider affiliations as useful or practical to their respective causes, or the outcomes they expect to negotiate, eg the BBL agreement.
Particular concern would be returning fighters from Syria and elsewhere to Malaysia and Indonesia and any cells that they might create. Malaysian Police, the Philippines AFP and Indonesian Densus 88 have been on to them with varies degrees of success. The problem has been some fairly porous borders and areas around Poso, Jolo and Yala with Jungle terrain or lax Law enforcement that had enabled them to go to ground in past years.
Urban radicalisation is the big bogey. Fortunately there's little propensity for these groups in different countries to unite for the creation of a "Pattani Caliphate" or as Sukarno called it "maphilindo" because it's either logistically impracticable for them, or they've unlikely to agree upon who's in charge, that probably will limit whatever success that IS might have. The changing political environment prior to the recent Indonesian elections is a cause for concern IMO as there appears to be a power shift towards a more hard line Islamic path. Whether this expels the air of the extremists or encourages them remains to be seen.

https://thediplomat.com/tag/terrorism-in-southeast-asia/

Sent from my HTC 2PQ910 using Tapatalk

 

[darrenmorgan]

Hardly covering themselves in glory, the SL authorities.


On iPad using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Sainteric]

Everything in the post was fact and your inability to rebut that is noted. The actions by IS are the murderous legacy we have left for the world with our involvement in the middle east.



More ad hominem instead of addressing any points raised. Besides, you of all people don't need anyone to make you more stupid, you are plenty dumb already.




The fact that we have killed and displaced millions in the middle east this century alone makes one wonder just how 'enlightened' we really are.

Of course I highly doubt any of the foaming at the mouth dolts in this thread banging on about muslim bans and whatnot have ever spent one tenth as much time and effort criticising our own elected governments for the atrocities they have committed. They have no problem painting all muslims with the same brush for acts done by people they have no connection with though. Funny how that works.

Let me help you out you can't say for every world problem it's the fault of the Anglophile west, because we are in a Marxist paradigm the great opressors, all religions are far superior to Christianity, all cultures are far superior to western enlightenment. All of this of course with no facts or structure arguments just because it's the vibe of groupthink obsessed lefties.

No one here as far as I know wants to ban immigration or any other such thing. At the same time your propoganda (it's not even that), let's call it wishful thinking as locked in historical fact is just absolute rubbish.

 

[petedavo]

Sent from my HTC 2PQ910 using Tapatalk

 

[petedavo]

Sent from my HTC 2PQ910 using Tapatalk

 

[petedavo]

Sent from my HTC 2PQ910 using Tapatalk

 

[Opts]

Isis existed before 2008.

Not in it's current form and it was never as strong or militant. Obamas policy on Syria is what made them flourish.

 

[Opts]

Can I confirm something because I must admit I sometimes get lost in these conversations. Does leftist = left wing? And are all liberals - hyper- liberal?

I may as all put my cards on the table - left leaning atheist. I consider myself pretty progressive on most issues. I reckon you have the right to follow your religion but all religion is open to criticism and must work within the legal framework of a pluralist/secular society. I agree that Islam as a religion runs counter to many ideals that I would consider progressive but so do all religions.

Anyone that tries to imposes their religious beliefs on the way of life I choose to lead can piss off. This runs the gamut from the extreme (terrorist attacks) to more mundane activities (eg posting on social media). Part of me feels uncomfortable with some of the posting is the logic I think (and I note I may be wrong here and happy to be told otherwise) that Islam has an issue with extremist terror therefore all Muslim are extremists. This therefore makes Christianity good so stop criticising Christianity.

By the way Aly's article in The Age looks pretty measured to me.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asi...s-are-uniquely-senseless-20190425-p51h2v.html

Fire away.

Why are you lefties persisting with the crappy rhetoric of "Islam has an issue with extremist terror therefore all Muslim are extremists". It's a pathetic, childish, response. No one is saying that or has ever said that. Grow up.

What people are saying is that there is a very high proportion of Muslims who are extremist and there is an even higher proportion who are sympathetic towards the extremists. Then there are the other pathetic arguments such as, "more Australians are murdered by Australians" or "more people die on our roads".

It's time for you to grow up and debate the actual issues. The fact is that allowing Muslims to immigrate into western societies country increases the risks of terrorism and increases the long term destruction of societies values and culture. If you don't believe this, just refer to what parts of Lndon are like now. They're almost no go zones for non-believers.

 

[Opts]

Let me help you out you can't say for every world problem it's the fault of the Anglophile west, because we are in a Marxist paradigm the great opressors, all religions are far superior to Christianity, all cultures are far superior to western enlightenment. All of this of course with no facts or structure arguments just because it's the vibe of groupthink obsessed lefties.

No one here as far as I know wants to ban immigration or any other such thing. At the same time your propoganda (it's not even that), let's call it wishful thinking as locked in historical fact is just absolute rubbish.

They hate the west so much that they grab onto anything in order to blame the west and to excuse the Middle East for their atrocities. These are the same people who would accuse the west of evading their responsibility if they allowed Saddam to take over Kuwait and to persecute minorities. it's the hypocracy of the left.

Just look at Obama. Full of talk and yet he keeps the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, sends troop and support into Syria, yet promised that he would do the opposite prior to the election. Did any of the media call Gm out for this? No!