Certified Legendary Thread Sack Hinkley 12 - Finals Are Scary

[Willsy10]

My gut feel is he stays but the Carr handover at the end of 2025 is formalized.

However, there are two other scenarios:
1) We get thrashed by Sydney i think he goes.
2) I still haven't ruled out that he might decide to walk away if we win the flag, as it would be a great way for him to go out and find longer term security elsewhere, which could be just a senior assistant role. Clearly the pressure of being a senior coach has got to him this year.

 

[TazD]

We will have a much clearer picture of the landscape at around 10pm Friday night.

Given the way we perform in Sack Hinkley loses we'll know within 10mins of the first bounce.

 

[papahuggey]

Just something to remind everyone about Robbo's report on Monday in the Herald Sun: he clarified his article on 360 that night saying that you can "take it to the bank" that Hinkley would be at Port in 2025, only to follow it up by acknowledging the last time he told the public to "take it to the bank" his report turned out to be incorrect.

And his comments to Jake Niall at The Age left plenty of wiggle room depending on how Friday night goes.

Horrible timing, yes, but about as definitive as Houston saying he's not going anywhere.

Also worth noting neither Caro or Tom Morris have had anything to say about these reports - and they're as dialled in as anyone in footy about the Hinkley situation.

We will have a much clearer picture of the landscape at around 10pm Friday night.

Hnngg another Chewy post to give me hope, just inject it into my veins

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[Nelso]

He's still our coach because your last shot at goal went a few cms to the left, ****ing crazy hey, that his job has been saved by a poster.

His job was saved last year when Florent's kick did not make the distance.

That campaigner would have been sacked if we lost that game.

 

[Poley]

"Has only won one knockout final in ten years" still has a pretty nice ring to it.

I'm just hoping they're like buses... wait 10 years and then three come along at once....

 

[RangaInTeal]

So it turns out the Jonas and cassisi suggestions were a joke but were you actually being serious about Schofield as CD’s replacement?

Now you are talking about recruiting players, so I’m completely lost again.


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Without rehashing previously stated conversations, Schofield did well at Subiaco taking over the footy department from the Junior Colts to the Ones. Obviously GM of Footy Operations needs to manage a bit more than Standards, Training and Game plan, but a keen eye to detail and having a strong background in Coaching would hold him in good stead to ensure our Core Business - On field success, is supported by someone who has found success in the area as a player and a Coach.

We can surround him with brilliant people to pick up for his short comings. Leaders lead, Winners win.

You said let’s not talk about ‘X’ as we have a Prelim we should be talking about, I was stating it’s fine to have one eye on the now, but healthy to have one eye on the future. Then used the Recruitment team as an example of the club preparing in advance and not just putting out fires as they arise, as your ‘one week at a time’ would cause.

As others have pointed out, this is a forum for discussion, this is a Thread titled Sack Hinkley, we are discussing what one may deem relevant to the thread. Not the place to discuss Sydney this week?

 

[Us against the rest]

Let him keep coaching, we are so well respected…..

Looking at the latest head-to-head odds, Bet365 currently has Sydney at $1.33 and Port Adelaide at $3.35.

Hinkley will be a genius if we win, although we gave them a 112 point thrashing a few weeks ago.

This is what most of the country think about Hinkley's ability to stand up in a prelim.

I want to win this, I don't want a small loss, if we lose i want big lose and just maybe we can pry this cockroach from our club. It was never personal with Ken but now after seeing how selfish he is I genuinely don't like him as much to say he is what I would call a narcissist.

 

[Seattle Mariners]

What's the over/under line for a Hinkley sacking.

Has to be around the 10 goal mark surely?

Port Adelaide can't and won't tolerate that and stand for that.

 

[RangaInTeal]

Just outlaid $100 on Sydney +60 at $7.50.

 

[tribey]

What's the over/under line for a Hinkley sacking.

Has to be around the 10 goal mark surely?

Port Adelaide can't and won't tolerate that and stand for that.

This happened at the end of a 5-year span that began as flag favourites and culminated with just 1 losing Elimination Final to show for it.

Not only did he survive, but we were berated by the media as delusional morons for wanting his head to roll.

He could leave a steamer in Koch’s centre console after losing by triple figures and he’s 50/50 to cop an extension, while Gerard Whateley and Kane Cornes would eviscerate us for not grabbing a spoon and tucking in.

 

[philreich]

I wonder whether with CD probably leaving and Ken’s behaviour, has he decided he might be walking regardless of what happens?

I mean Koch can say what he wants if he knows that’s what is on the cards.

Maybe Ken has just decided he’s done?

Left field thought.

Is there anyone amongst us who would like to help Ken pack his bags?

 

[Coobk001]

Of the 4 prelim final coaches, all are in the top 5 longest term coaches.

Bet behind the scenes Koch and co are all bathing in their stability.....

 

[Chewy316]

What's the over/under line for a Hinkley sacking.

Has to be around the 10 goal mark surely?

Port Adelaide can't and won't tolerate that and stand for that.

I don't think it's a specific margin per se where things topple over. But rather it will depend on the eye test. They need to be competitive and giving everything.

Earlier in the year they lost to GWS by under 4 goals but looked lifeless and played a beyond boring game style that day. Despite being a relatively small loss, the footy committee and Board were really quite angry about the result, which is why tensions flared 6 days later when they got smashed against Brisbane.

A game like the GWS one will also put Ken's job into a precarious position.

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This happened at the end of a 5-year span that began as flag favourites and culminated with just 1 losing Elimination Final to show for it.

Not only did he survive, but we were berated by the media as delusional morons for wanting his head to roll.

He could leave a steamer in Koch’s centre console after losing by triple figures and he’s 50/50 to cop an extension, while Gerard Whateley and Kane Cornes would eviscerate us for not grabbing a spoon and tucking in.

Mate they were never going to sack Ken in 2019 considering their debt levels in conjunction with his contract not ending until end of 2020 (with a trigger for 21).

The times Ken has been in a position where they could sack him have been:

• 2017 after the EF loss (in hindsight should have let him go then)
• end of 2020 season had they missed finals
• end of 2022 had they been able to get Clarkson (which was fortunate in hindsight because they don't get JHF if Clarkson joined Port)
• end of 2023 if they missed finals
• end of 2024 depending on a variety of results.

I am only speculating, but I would suggest a loss on Friday night most likely results in the announcement of a formal succession plan whereby Carr takes over as senior coach in 2026.

 

[philreich]

Hinkley would love Perth. There's probably extra three months per year he can get around in Stubbies and thongs.

Plus he'd get September off.

 

[240volt]

I don't think it's a specific margin per se where things topple over. But rather it will depend on the eye test. They need to be competitive and giving everything.

Earlier in the year they lost to GWS by under 4 goals but looked lifeless and played a beyond boring game style that day. Despite being a relatively small loss, the footy committee and Board were really quite angry about the result, which is why tensions flared 6 days later when they got smashed against Brisbane.

A game like the GWS one will also put Ken's job into a precarious position.



Mate they were never going to sack Ken in 2019 considering their debt levels in conjunction with his contract not ending until end of 2020 (with a trigger for 21).

The times Ken has been in a position where they could sack him have been:

• 2017 after the EF loss (in hindsight should have let him go then)
• end of 2020 season had they missed finals
• end of 2022 had they been able to get Clarkson (which was fortunate in hindsight because they don't get JHF if Clarkson joined Port)
• end of 2023 if they missed finals
• end of 2024 depending on a variety of results.

I am only speculating, but I would suggest a loss on Friday night most likely results in the announcement of a formal succession plan whereby Carr takes over as senior coach in 2026.

The old succession plan, I’ve heard this story before.
Unbelievable!
Once Hinkley goes there should be an Australian wide search for a new coach.
This old someone takes over who happens to be in the building BS has been tried and failed before.

 

[philreich]

It's not only this, it's the way he plays up to it. When have you ever heard Hinkley, after a win, make a point of highlighting his support staff/assistant coaches? He doesn't. It's all him. Even Mark Williams, as crazy as he was, ALWAYS made a point of singling out all of his assistant coaches for high praise in post win press conferences as the club was marching towards a premiership. Not this guy.

If we win the next 2 games, he'll probably get up on the dais and say, "I deserve this."

 

[Poley]

Actually no. It was ours first. read the signature! Been QFC theme song since formation.
South Melbourne were originally known as the Blood Stained Angels and adopted their song in the 1920's ( I believe ). According to Bruce Abernathy's book From A Port To A Power, Port Magpies adopted it in the 70s.

Yep- Big Bob McLean heard it at a South Melbourne game and the rest is history..

 

[dirty2]

If we win the next 2 games, he'll probably get up on the dais and say, "I deserve this."

He would push all the players out the way so he could collect all the medals.

 

[jakey]

Let him keep coaching, we are so well respected…..

Since Kenny is completely incapable of preparing or motivating the team independently, put this shit on the whiteboard this week, along with our odds of beating Sydney, and our odds of winning the flag. Show them what people think of them. Time and again it's proven the only thing that gets them going.

 

[Chewy316]

The old succession plan, I’ve heard this story before.
Unbelievable!
Once Hinkley goes there should be an Australian wide search for a new coach.
This old someone takes over who happens to be in the building BS has been tried and failed before.

Regardless of what any of us want, Carr will be the next coach. Might as well make peace with it now to save yourself the angst later.

You say succession plans "has been tried and failed before."

Worked pretty well at Sydney with Longmire and Melbourne with Goodwin. Each situation is its own circumstance and should be looked upon as such.

 

[Gryllis]

Of the 4 prelim final coaches, all are in the top 5 longest term coaches.

Bet behind the scenes Koch and co are all bathing in their stability.....

That's quite interesting.

But 3 of 4 have earned that by actually winning a prelim(s)...

 

[Thunderer]

We will literally be debt free by the end of 2025

The next big battle will be getting the Club under membership control, for which apparently Koch knows nothing about.

 

[KrispyKremeMullanikka]

The next big battle will be getting the Club under membership control, for which apparently Koch knows nothing about.

Yep, I'm wondering what the feeling will be between now and the next AGM.

Wonder what Kochie will do/say when people ask about a fully member-elect board. Things will be very interesting at that point, especially if we lost badly or we lost this week and the boys lost by a couple goals but look lifeless and Ken still sticks around.

 

[GoPorts]

Regardless of what any of us want, Carr will be the next coach. Might as well make peace with it now to save yourself the angst later.

You say succession plans "has been tried and failed before."

Worked pretty well at Sydney with Longmire and Melbourne with Goodwin. Each situation is its own circumstance and should be looked upon as such.

So you're saying sack Hinkley and hire Paul Roos?

 

[Janey]

• end of 2022 had they been able to get Clarkson (which was fortunate in hindsight because they don't get JHF if Clarkson joined Port

What's that about?