List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Wooshaaaa]

Ned Moyle is a big lump of a bloke.

Get him over west

This is who we should be targeting. We need to bite the bullet and spend some money.

In the words or Richard gear.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Ned Moyle is a big lump of a bloke.

Get him over west

What would we prepared to give up for him? He is under contract, i think. Would it have to be a top 15 pick to get GC to be interested?

 

[Elite Pete]

What would we prepared to give up for him? He is under contract, i think. Would it have to be a top 15 pick to get GC to be interested?

Would likely be part of a points swap or next years 2nd? They have 3 x 1st the will be likely trading out for points already.

Ryan and we pay his contract?

 

[Schtinker]

you are not a sprinter, clearly. You can or you can't.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

There is a clip this morning on Instagram with the Collingwood cheer squad behind the goals singing to TDK

“Oh when the Saints
Go marching in
…..
Oh he wants to be at St Kilda”

Not able to share Instagram posts but here is the story

Tom De Koning trolled by Collingwood cheer squad in Carlton capitulation | Sporting News Australia

It's been generally accepted that Carlton star Tom De Koning is joining St Kilda for next season.

www.sportingnews.com

Now that was funny and shows that we would be fine having a mid season trade period

Question is - can the players handle it

It would disproportionately benefit vic clubs, no thankyou.

 

[eagles rule]

so he is an athlete and a footballer - sounds ideal.

Very ideal and why Saints tried to lure him last year with a 7 million dollar contract offer..

 

[eaglespremiers]

Was anyone able to watch this?

Yes, I attended.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Would likely be part of a points swap or next years 2nd? They have 3 x 1st the will be likely trading out for points already.

Ryan and we pay his contract?

Other people track this more closely than me so i might be wrong, but aren't there multiple clubs chasing him? And aren't GC not kean to trade him anyway since he is under contract? The odds somebody will offer something better than next years 2nd if he on the market must be pretty high. And the odds that GC will be excited by a pick that will likely be 25 - 28 after academy/comp selections etc for a player multiple clubs are chasing must be pretty low.

 

[Elite Pete]

Other people track this more closely than me so i might be wrong, but aren't there multiple clubs chasing him? And aren't GC not kean to trade him anyway since he is under contract? The odds somebody will offer something better than next years 2nd if he on the market must be pretty high. And the odds that GC will be excited by a pick that will likely be 25 - 28 after academy/comp selections etc for a player multiple clubs are chasing must be pretty low.

He had a lot of teams chasing him last year when he was OOC and signed on at the Suns so very unlikely to leave. I don’t think he will either so imo it’s all irrelevant but the post I replied to suggested we offer him an offer that is too good for him to refuse. If they could somehow get him to agree for a trade then you would have to get the Suns to agree. AFL player movement is like no other and clubs Majority of the time won’t stand in the way do a player leaving if he can get the sort of money they can’t match. You’re right we would still have to satisfy them in a trade.

Suns this year picks mean little as they have 3 first rd picks already. They would love to get pick 2 or 3 off us if we get it for Oscar. And it’s possible some trade could get done but I can’t see the Eagles splitting a pick that high for Moyle and a player who has been playing VFL majority of his career. After the optics of Baker last year and what it would look like doing that.

Our future 2 might have more value to a team like the Suns if they have another academy haul in 2026. I’m not too sure what they have in the pipeline for next year. They are also suggestions the discount of 10% to matching a player getting bid on will be taken away in the future so these picks do become more valuable. It’s also the last draft before the Tassie drafts.

It’s more likely they would be interested in a player and not to have to pay for his contract and why I suggested Ryan (already been linked there and open for a possible trade) and they probably need small forwards. Would be some kickers somewhere. Suns are 100% need to win now mode with Rowell and King free agents over the next 2 years. They need to do everything to be a top 4 side next year and beyond.

 

[Goroyals22]

He had a lot of teams chasing him last year when he was OOC and signed on at the Suns so very unlikely to leave. I don’t think he will either so imo it’s all irrelevant but the post I replied to suggested we offer him an offer that is too good for him to refuse. If they could somehow get him to agree for a trade then you would have to get the Suns to agree. AFL player movement is like no other and clubs Majority of the time won’t stand in the way do a player leaving if he can get the sort of money they can’t match. You’re right we would still have to satisfy them in a trade.

Suns this year picks mean little as they have 3 first rd picks already. They would love to get pick 2 or 3 off us if we get it for Oscar. And it’s possible some trade could get done but I can’t see the Eagles splitting a pick that high for Moyle and a player who has been playing VFL majority of his career. After the optics of Baker last year and what it would look like doing that.

Our future 2 might have more value to a team like the Suns if they have another academy haul in 2026. I’m not too sure what they have in the pipeline for next year. They are also suggestions the discount of 10% to matching a player getting bid on will be taken away in the future so these picks do become more valuable. It’s also the last draft before the Tassie drafts.

It’s more likely they would be interested in a player and not to have to pay for his contract and why I suggested Ryan (already been linked there and open for a possible trade) and they probably need small forwards. Would be some kickers somewhere. Suns are 100% need to win now mode with Rowell and King free agents over the next 2 years. They need to do everything to be a top 4 side next year and beyond.

Ryan tried to get to Queensland last year and both clubs said no thanks…
Who out of either Queensland side that played yesterday is a soon to be 29 year old Liam Ryan going to replace?? Ben Ainsworth maybe but their stats this year are similar and Ainsworth is still a year or two younger.

He isn’t going to shift the needle in a trade in our favour for sure .

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Nah.

You can't move the dial much on this. You can teach someone to play footy, but you can't teach them to have elite burst speed.

So now we went from speed to burst speed. Talk about moving the goal posts for Wooosha.

Callaghan didnt exactly test like a god over 20m sprint. I mean Hough was quicker in his draft class. Callaghans so called burst speed is just gut running or 2km time trial style of talent. You can definetly teach someone to run harder and we will when Reid/Hewett can have proper runs at it.

I see Hewett/Callaghan having a ton of similarities. Hewett just needs to get 2 extra pre seasons in him and a bit more faith as opposed to already looking for his replacement after 20 games

 

[ziad]

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but he isn't a football player( or a great sprinter). Just like Usain B didn't make it as a soccer player. If that confuses you don't worry the world is complex

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

So now we went from speed to burst speed. Talk about moving the goal posts for Wooosha.

Callaghan didnt exactly test like a god over 20m sprint. I mean Hough was quicker in his draft class. Callaghans so called burst speed is just gut running or 2km time trial style of talent. You can definetly teach someone to run harder and we will when Reid/Hewett can have proper runs at it.

I see Hewett/Callaghan having a ton of similarities. Hewett just needs to get 2 extra pre seasons in him and a bit more faith as opposed to already looking for his replacement after 20 games

Both Hewett and Harley are poor endurance athletes. Simmo even said when Hewett debuted that Hewett had to start as sub because he is a 80 minute TOG player just doesn’t have endurance for a full game.

Players can improve their weaknesses (and they both have and will continue to improve) but expecting to turn a weakness into a strength just doesn’t really happen.

Work with what you’ve got, instead of trying to turn players into players that they’re not.

If we want elite transition mids (we do and we should) we will need to find them through the draft or trade because we don’t have them on our list at the moment.

We could start with Grlj

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

So now we went from speed to burst speed. Talk about moving the goal posts for Wooosha.

Callaghan didnt exactly test like a god over 20m sprint. I mean Hough was quicker in his draft class. Callaghans so called burst speed is just gut running or 2km time trial style of talent. You can definetly teach someone to run harder and we will when Reid/Hewett can have proper runs at it.

I see Hewett/Callaghan having a ton of similarities. Hewett just needs to get 2 extra pre seasons in him and a bit more faith as opposed to already looking for his replacement after 20 games

Speed or burst speed - you can't move the dial much on either.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

What would we prepared to give up for him? He is under contract, i think. Would it have to be a top 15 pick to get GC to be interested?

People wont like the answer but do feel its simple

Let Gold Coast take a pick before the academy players get bid on....

Pick 2 for Moyle and pick 9

Gold Coast cutting out 2 bids on their academy players from occuring andcan pick a guy like Duff-Tyler as Moyles replacement basically

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Speed or burst speed - you can't move the dial much on either.

I just think Hewett/Reid have that 20m of burst speed myself. They dont have anywhere near the ability to run 100m at pace through the middle though.

I think that can be taught myself. Its happened before... especially when it comes to the 20m like speed traits being utilised better.

Do I expect Hewett/Reid to be the best in the AFL at it like Callaghan is right now? Nope, but they sure can become that style of footballer who can play in that manner.

I mean he did say we need to find our own Darcy Jones too. Darcy Jones is a absolute freak. We are not finding a Darcy Jones. You are kind of underrating how special that kid is a bit if you think we can pluck one out of our rear end. How many teams in the AFL have a Darcy Jones running around exactly?

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

I just think Hewett/Reid have that 20m of burst speed myself. They dont have anywhere near the ability to run 100m at pace through the middle though.

I think that can be taught myself. Its happened before... especially when it comes to the 20m like speed traits being utilised better.

Do I expect Hewett/Reid to be the best in the AFL at it like Callaghan is right now? Nope, but they sure can become that style of footballer who can play in that manner.

I mean he did say we need to find our own Darcy Jones too. Darcy Jones is a absolute freak. We are not finding a Darcy Jones. You are kind of underrating how special that kid is a bit if you think we can pluck one out of our rear end. How many teams in the AFL have a Darcy Jones running around exactly?

Do you know why TK is so shit? Because he's an outsider and within a couple of seasons out side was decimated meaning he had to pick up some inside slack. Ditto Sheed. It doesn't work. Similarly, we can't turn Duggan into Josh Lindsay. Similarly, you don't want to draft in Lindsay and play him balanced or inside - you want him in space getting ball.

You can't turn these guys into something they're not. And even more to the point, you don't want to. You want to draft different components to make up a balanced midfield.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Do you know why TK is so shit? Because he's an outsider and within a couple of seasons out side was decimated meaning he had to pick up some inside slack. Ditto Sheed. It doesn't work. Similarly, we can't turn Duggan into Josh Lindsay. Similarly, you don't want to draft in Lindsay and play him balanced or inside - you want him in space getting ball.

You can't turn these guys into something they're not. And even more to the point, you don't want to. You want to draft different components to make up a balanced midfield.

If you didnt try to turn guys into something they are not at the age of 19 then Patrick Dangerfield and Christian Petracca would be sitting in the forward pocket. Players grow and develop. They are not the same player at 19 that they are at 30....

Im not sure GWS is the midfield we want to create anyway... I think Brisbane Lions is the midfield to mould ourselves around.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

If you didnt try to turn guys into something they are not at the age of 19 then Patrick Dangerfield and Christian Petracca would be sitting in the forward pocket. Players grow and develop. They are not the same player at 19 that they are at 30....

Im not sure GWS is the midfield we want to create anyway... I think Brisbane Lions is the midfield to mould ourselves around.

Athletic attributes and playing positions are different things. Your analogy doesn't work.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Athletic attributes and playing positions are different things. Your analogy doesn't work.

Dangerfield played up forward because he wasnt fit enough to play in the midfield... It was a big thing back in the day remember. Petracca was the same. He was up forward alot early on because he was seen as not fit enough to play in the midfield.

My analogy works if you remember the beginnings of each career

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Dangerfield played up forward because he wasnt fit enough to play in the midfield... It was a big thing back in the day remember. Petracca was the same. He was up forward alot early on because he was seen as not fit enough to play in the midfield.

My analogy works if you remember the beginnings of each career

One thing: A rookie midfielder who needs to build his tank to the next level to be able to compete with the best seasoned midfields in the AFL. This is normal. There's a big jump from u18s to Opens.

Another thing entirely: Getting a player who's strength is not pace or burst speed and making them quick and/or bursty.

You can build a player's tank. You can't make them quick.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Dangerfield played up forward because he wasnt fit enough to play in the midfield... It was a big thing back in the day remember. Petracca was the same. He was up forward alot early on because he was seen as not fit enough to play in the midfield.

My analogy works if you remember the beginnings of each career

You’re equating innate athletic abilities with natural development and physical maturity.

They’re not the same. Your example of Dangerfield proves just that. Danger’s endurance improved to the point he could play full time midfield, but endurance and transition running never became his personal strength. His endurance became good enough for him to be able to execute his actual strengths (contest and burst from stoppage) on a regular basis, but that’s about it.

 

[TOA.]

People wont like the answer but do feel its simple

Let Gold Coast take a pick before the academy players get bid on....

Pick 2 for Moyle and pick 9

Gold Coast cutting out 2 bids on their academy players from occuring andcan pick a guy like Duff-Tyler as Moyles replacement basically

Witts is old and GC have locked Moyle in long term to replace him. We can dream but its a pipe dream and we shouldnt waste our time hoping it will happen. We should have targetted Moyle 2 years ago.

Reeves from Hawthorn is much more realistic. He's a monster (210cm) and has shown good form in the past. Just stuck behind Meek.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Witts is old and GC have locked Moyle in long term to replace him. We can dream but its a pipe dream and we shouldnt waste our time hoping it will happen. We should have targetted Moyle 2 years ago.

Reeves from Hawthorn is much more realistic. He's a monster (210cm) and has shown good form in the past. Just stuck behind Meek.

Reeves to me feels like Flynn 2.0 a bit. Its just putting a different deck chair on the Titanic. We need something to just fix the bloody problem.

 

[Donkers]

We are still so short on midfielders that we really need to draft best available for the next 2 years as it is. Then the club can look at what is potentially needed in 3 years time.

We haven't had a huge amount of luck with our NGA system but for the first time Kenh and McGlade look like guaranteed good pick ups and we already know their positions. McGlade is a small forward, potentially a HF and Kenh is a rock solid rebounder from defence. Both are very quick and have very good smarts. Kenh in particular is a great kick while McGlade flashes moments of absolute brilliance.

Next year If they were in the open pool from what I have seen so far I would have Kenh 5-10 and McGlade 10-20. So in a lot of ways I am not adverse to trading down on a pick and moving points to next year if we get band 1 for Allen.

2, & Hawks second for Moyle, 9 and F2 would be perfect for the club imo. Moyle is a ready to go upgrade on our ruck stocks and significantly. People will say that is overs from our end but GC need points this year and we need them next year.

You would need 100% commitment from Moyle and you would want to test the waters on say Bailey Williams. If we could get a F2 for Bailey it would then be a massive list upgrade, still able to take 3 first rounders this year and have 3 first round quality picks next year. Moyle is not 100% the finished product yet but he's bloody close.