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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Barrybran said:
Who are you thinking of?

From our side, we could try to trade 2 to Adelaide for Curtin + 16 (they might exist something else in return; we'd probably want a little more than 16). Adelaide would have a decent pick to be able to have a crack at Wanganeen-Milera with the ability to draft Sharp as a fall back.
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I don't think Adelaide would accept 2 for Curtin, let alone also giving us 16. I guess the only way they would is if it was part of an NWM deal.
If Curtin was available in this draft we'd take him at pick 1 I'd think.
 
Barrybran said:
Who are you thinking of?

From our side, we could try to trade 2 to Adelaide for Curtin + 16 (they might exist something else in return; we'd probably want a little more than 16). Adelaide would have a decent pick to be able to have a crack at Wanganeen-Milera with the ability to draft Sharp as a fall back.
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Can't see the Crows letting Curtin go at all.
 

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ballsohard said:
I don't think Adelaide would accept 2 for Curtin, let alone also giving us 16. I guess the only way they would is if it was part of an NWM deal.
If Curtin was available in this draft we'd take him at pick 1 I'd think.
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I don't think Adelaide would do it either. It would be predicated on them asking themselves who they think is better out of Curtin, Sharp and NWM. I don't see how they're in the NWM sweepstakes without giving up something of value.
 
ballsohard said:
I don't think Adelaide would accept 2 for Curtin, let alone also giving us 16. I guess the only way they would is if it was part of an NWM deal.
If Curtin was available in this draft we'd take him at pick 1 I'd think.
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No point dreaming about Curtin - he has just signed new contract out to 2029. He ain't leaving in the short or medium term.

We tried to swap picks (with GWS ?) to get him at draft but I think that horse has now bolted.
 
Getting anyone out of Crows now they're up and about would be difficult. He seems a pretty working class mid but I've always thought Sam Berry chopped up against us and he seems to be going alright this year. Is contracted.

Hard nosed mid and plays fearless like Baker. Hits the scoreboard too.
 
nameless said:
Any thought to offloading the Allan compo for an experienced player?

The draft doesn't seem that great this year, our desperate need is experienced mids, I don't care if it's considered 'overs' we're not getting out of this hole by bringing in another 6-7 18yr olds.

Can we try to find a way to bring in a gun mid for pick 2 and offer some decent coin?
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Absolutely I would for a gun in the 22-26 ish age bracket. Availability is the problem
 
The talk of Berry and Curtin is probably too late. See what happens with Berry in the finals and if he holds his place but they are more likely to let Crouch leave then trade Berry I would’ve thought.

Was our list team chasing these players? Were they putting big offers to Curtin like the Vic teams were with Harley? At least driving up his salary.

While it certainly has clicked for Curtin in the last 10 rounds or so it would’ve been a little risky offering a big contract to him and having to pay up the asset as well.
 

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nameless said:
Any thought to offloading the Allan compo for an experienced player?

The draft doesn't seem that great this year, our desperate need is experienced mids, I don't care if it's considered 'overs' we're not getting out of this hole by bringing in another 6-7 18yr olds.

Can we try to find a way to bring in a gun mid for pick 2 and offer some decent coin?
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Yep that was Warner. Not sure who else there is that would be available and want to come. Pre agent Sam Walsh? will have huge offers in a year to stay in Vic
 
eaglespremiers said:
Like who?
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I know he's turning 30 but I'd still take 5 years of Petracca to help us short term. I know that won't be liked on here, but we're so far off it we do need some quick fixes to get competitive.

See if Walsh is looking to jump ship from Carlton.

Try Bailey Humphrey from GC, he's maybe not the quick fix like Petracca, but the dude will be an absolute jet and with all their academy and star players we could offer more coin.

It likely won't cost pick 2 (maybe swap that with GC for 2 picks) and use one on Steele, Cripps, Wines, Atkins (Geel) etc

I think we need to turn that pick 2 into established players in some way.
 
nameless said:
I know he's turning 30 but I'd still take 5 years of Petracca to help us short term. I know that won't be liked on here, but we're so far off it we do need some quick fixes to get competitive.
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I would look at it more as a leadership development role rather than a "quick fix".

We need blokes with experience who can come in and mentor the kids not only on how to be mids, but also to develop the attitudes needed for a professional footballer. Petracca would be the sort of bloke who fits that mold - experienced, serviceable and a clubman.

If he's somewhat cheap then I wouldnt be adverse to it (although IIRC he is contracted for the next 3 years so probably wouldnt be cheap).
 

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Wight Wolf said:
1 and 2 need to be taken in the draft. Unless an unbelievable deal for a gun established mid twenties player.

Anything less would be diabolical. We dont have enough talent on our list
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I really hope the players we draft at 1 and 2 are guns, but everything I'm reading suggests they're not.

Taking out the talented academy players you have:
CDT who is a ruckman/fwd hyped up on potential and will take a long time to develop

Sharp who I'd like to have, but appears to be slow and limited in upside

Duursma to join his family of plodders without a defined position.

Lindsay who is a half back, albeit a potentially elite one.

A bunch of key talls we don't need

Greaves probably fits our needs but isn't an elite talent either.

I just don't think it's worth going twice at the top of this draft when we can throw that pick around to get someone really good who can bridge the gap between the young players and the vets.

We know we're getting 3-4 NGA and F/S players so list spots might be tight and I'm not a huge fan of taking a heap of picks to what is broadly described as an average draft.
 
nameless said:
I really hope the players we draft at 1 and 2 are guns, but everything I'm reading suggests they're not.

Taking out the talented academy players you have:
CDT who is a ruckman/fwd hyped up on potential and will take a long time to develop

Sharp who I'd like to have, but appears to be slow and limited in upside

Duursma to join his family of plodders without a defined position.

Lindsay who is a half back, albeit a potentially elite one.

A bunch of key talls we don't need

Greaves probably fits our needs but isn't an elite talent either.

I just don't think it's worth going twice at the top of this draft when we can throw that pick around to get someone really good who can bridge the gap between the young players and the vets.

We know we're getting 3-4 NGA and F/S players so list spots might be tight and I'm not a huge fan of taking a heap of picks to what is broadly described as an average draft.
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I like the idea and agree about the lack of high end talent in this draft, but finding a gun who wants to join a non competitive team will be extremely difficult.
 
Wight Wolf said:
1 and 2 need to be taken in the draft. Unless an unbelievable deal for a gun established mid twenties player.

Anything less would be diabolical. We dont have enough talent on our list
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Of course every club could say that, and sure we need more talent, but right now we need Leadership just about as much. Bar Baker (and Graham?) which senior player has provided consistent leadership and form? I'd say none. It would have been a different story if Gov, Jake and Yeo had not been injured and if Allen had not been missing due to form or injury. Look at the BOGs for Richmond and they all were 70+ games (with two ~170 and one 250).

At the start of the season I thought by year's end it might be fairly obvious which younger players were 'probables' and which were heading towards 'delists'. But right now, due to our slower development (including Beagles) I'd say about half the list are still roughly 'possibles'. So I'm not sure just how much talent we really do have on our list.

Think of JWill, Maric, Hutch, Hewett, Dewar, Brockman, Brock, Bazzo, Chesser, Long, Johnston, Davis, Newton, Allan, Hall, Champion, Grego and Archer. Now sure, some punters will have opinions on them, and maybe strong opinions, but all these evaluations are based on not much evidence. (Unlike say Petro who's played ~90 games.) Who knows how, say, Maric might develop in a stronger team? Could be a total bust or could be a 150 game player. My point is, at present we just don't know. And, that's why we need Leadership.

PS: For that reason, off-season we need to send about 10 of the younger players to a leadership course.
Very late edit: the suggestion of a course is in addition to recruiting mature players not instead of.
 
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One other thing, I'm not really across the trade situation but given Carl and Melb seem to heading to rebuild territory, are there any older players there worth looking at? I see the discussion about Petracca and previously Cripps, anyone else? (And no mentions of Oliver please.)
 
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