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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

List Changes - 2025
  • Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
  • Jayden Hunt announces retirement
  • Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
  • Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
  • Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
  • List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

Key Offseason Dates
Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft
 
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Saints still very much into Leek Aleer. Their KPDs would include Wilkie, Silvagni, Tauru as well as Aleer all ahead of Barrat.

Ryan, 13, 32 for 8 and Barrat if he’s open to a move.

13 may get them Flanders and 32 should get them Aleer whilst preserving their future hand.
 
Lyon won't last the season.
There is guaranteed to be some discontent in the playing group about the money being paid to the possible imports. It will require some serious man management and people skills to get that smoothed over and stop it bleeding over into poor onfield attitudes from the legacy players. And i don't think Lyon is the man for the job when you need to inspire people and get them to put their own personal interests and ego aside for the greater good. In fact, Lyon has such low emotional and social intelligence that he probably still won't even realise that this is going to be a problem that he will need to deal with.
 

Saints still very much into Leek Aleer. Their KPDs would include Wilkie, Silvagni, Tauru as well as Aleer all ahead of Barrat.

Ryan, 13, 32 for 8 and Barrat if he’s open to a move.

13 may get them Flanders and 32 should get them Aleer whilst preserving their future hand.
This sounds like a massive overpay by us. Pass
 

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Saints still very much into Leek Aleer. Their KPDs would include Wilkie, Silvagni, Tauru as well as Aleer all ahead of Barrat.

Ryan, 13, 32 for 8 and Barrat if he’s open to a move.

How often is a draftee traded after a single season?

Boyd and JHF the only examples I can think of, and they were both homesick pick 1s.

Not sure that a Barrat trade is at all likely.
 
How often is a draftee traded after a single season?

Boyd and JHF the only examples I can think of, and they were both homesick pick 1s.

Not sure that a Barrat trade is at all likely.
eaglevision loves a delusional trade hypothetical to clog up the thread. The new Obeanie special mega trade.

Think I’ve seen Neale, Warner, Boxshall, Wilson and now Barrat discussed at length now despite none being anywhere near a realistic possibility.
 
How often is a draftee traded after a single season?

Boyd and JHF the only examples I can think of, and they were both homesick pick 1s.

Not sure that a Barrat trade is at all likely.

I don’t think it’s likely either. But I’d talk to James and try and convince him that better cash and a clearer path to AFL football would be in his best interest.

No idea if Saints would accept that deal but seems to tick a lot of boxes.
 
eaglevision loves a delusional trade hypothetical to clog up the thread. The new Obeanie special mega trade.

Think I’ve seen Neale, Warner, Boxshall, Wilson and now Barrat discussed at length now despite none being anywhere near a realistic possibility.

Seems like a reasonable place to discuss what we should ask STK for in return for Ryan.
 
I'm not keen on Barrat coz it sounds like he's Barrass but with the final letter of his name later in the alphabet. And that just screams inferior to me.

Now if a Barrar or maybe even a Barram became available, I feel like that's someone we should make enquiries about.
 
eaglevision loves a delusional trade hypothetical to clog up the thread. The new Obeanie special mega trade.

Think I’ve seen Neale, Warner, Boxshall, Wilson and now Barrat discussed at length now despite none being anywhere near a realistic possibility.

Maybe we can get Stumpf or Dennis instead
 
Sure but it’s not going to be a contracted first year player

Agree with you and Mig that it’s unlikely, but we still need to ask for what suits our list given we’d also be trading a contracted and allegedly required player.

If we can convince the player to come over then the Saints really don’t have a leg to stand on given they’ve obviously been courting our own contracted player.
 
Imagine you’re a kid from Ballarat who, 10 months ago, dodged a bullet and didn’t get drafted to a team on the other side of the country that’s absolutely in the toilet right now.

How likely would you be to agree to move to that team now?
 

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Imagine you’re a kid from Ballarat who, 10 months ago, dodged a bullet and didn’t get drafted to a team on the other side of the country that’s absolutely in the toilet right now.

How likely would you be to agree to move to that team now?

Depends.

If my salary is getting doubled, I’m leaving a non finalist that looks to be stuck in mid table purgatory and I can get out of Melbourne then probably pretty high.

Will depend on how we sell it and what we offer to the player. There is absolutely no reason we shouldn’t approach him or any other player for that matter that we feel will improve the list.
 
How often is a draftee traded after a single season?

Boyd and JHF the only examples I can think of, and they were both homesick pick 1s.

Not sure that a Barrat trade is at all likely.
Its Ryan + 13 for pick 8
Then 32 for Barrat - this one is a clear win for us, negating any slight loss incurred on the first part of the trade
 
Claremont CHB Anthony Davis , should take as a rookie ....injury concerns but could surprise at the next level , little bit of Harry Taylor about him .
Gotta think outside the square as players seem unseen coming West .
 
Depends.

If my salary is getting doubled, I’m leaving a non finalist that looks to be stuck in mid table purgatory and I can get out of Melbourne then probably pretty high.

Will depend on how we sell it and what we offer to the player. There is absolutely no reason we shouldn’t approach him or any other player for that matter that we feel will improve the list.
Isn’t he stuck on rookie contract salary for another year even if he leaves?

Also, again. He was pick 32 and hasn’t played a game of afl. His vfl stats are underwhelming.

Why are we selling the farm for him? Given your proposal was Liam Ryan and pick 13, 32 for 8 and barrat?
 
The club should be trying to convince any good clearance midfielders, rucks and KPDs to come to us.

Unfortunately, we have only been seriously linked to a mid sized defender.

Last year we were linked to Baker and Graham from a long way out.

Not looking good atm for added midfield and ruck support. Maybe more targets will be revealed after finals?
 
Its Ryan + 13 for pick 8
Then 32 for Barrat - this one is a clear win for us, negating any slight loss incurred on the first part of the trade
Ryan and 13 for 8 is not a fair trade for us. Barrat coming in for 32 does not even it out at all
 

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Isn’t he stuck on rookie contract salary for another year even if he leaves?

Also, again. He was pick 32 and hasn’t played a game of afl. His vfl stats are underwhelming.

Why are we selling the farm for him? Given your proposal was Liam Ryan and pick 13, 32 for 8 and barrat?

2R pick, two year mandatory contract, has signed a one year extension into 2027 that we can alter however we deem appropriate. Not sure if we can interfere with his year 2 salary regardless of shifting clubs.

His stats look like they do because of how Sandringham (STK) have used him playing deep. He’s a CHB IMO and should be playing further up the ground.

I don’t think that’s selling the farm I think it’s a fair trade both ways. stallon put it well a couple of posts above.
 
The club should be trying to convince any good clearance midfielders, rucks and KPDs to come to us.

Unfortunately, we have only been seriously linked to a mid sized defender.

Last year we were linked to Baker and Graham from a long way out.

Not looking good atm for added midfield and ruck support. Maybe more targets will be revealed after finals?
This is the likelihood. It’s poor form to splash another players name around when they are still competing.

Just waiting for the Alex Davies, sam Flanders and pick 2 for pick 7 and a F2 news drop.
 
Is Ah Chee a free agent? Or just uncontracted but not a free agent? Or is he neither and we would have to be trading for a contracted player and therefore paying a premium?
 
Ryan and 13 for 8 is not a fair trade for us. Barrat coming in for 32 does not even it out at all
I think itd be a very good deal.

Barrat is 1 year into his career and is very speculative, but he'd be just as good as an actual top 20 pick this year tbh, similar value to Ryan if you prefer to think of it that way.
Then its 13+32 for 8

Either way its a pretty reasonable deal for us at worst.

I assume you just dont care for Barrat
 
Is Ah Chee a free agent? Or just uncontracted but not a free agent? Or is he neither and we would have to be trading for a contracted player and therefore paying a premium?
He’s OOC and heavily linked to the Crows. Hasn’t completed 8 years at the Lions.

Gettable rate his around the Crows first or our 2nd round pick
 
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