List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

[Keys]

Quick links

• Player contract status
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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

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  Last 5

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  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

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  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

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  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

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  HB

  3.2

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  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

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  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Depends.

If my salary is getting doubled, I’m leaving a non finalist that looks to be stuck in mid table purgatory and I can get out of Melbourne then probably pretty high.

His salary is governed by the CBA until the end of his draftee contract.

He’d be leaving a side in mid table purgatory for a side that’s won 11 games in four years.

And he’d be getting out of Melbourne and moving to the other side of the country. Is that a positive? It’d depend on the individual but there aren’t too many I can think of that voluntarily move that far from home at that age. The Vic Country kids seem more likely to stay where they’re drafted than the metro kids, but that’s it.

 

[chaddy22]

Wilkie is contracted 2 more seasons . Saints just say no

Like this strategy from the Bulldogs. Saints trying to pry out players from other clubs and wanting to lose nobody.
Their must be doubt for certain Saints players about their future.

 

[FKASC]

Gaining Silvagni and TDK and losing Wilkie and Marshall is a hefty net loss tbh

Wilkie is 5 times better than Battle ever was

 

[Elite Pete]

Gaining Silvagni and TDK and losing Wilkie and Marshall is a hefty net loss tbh

Wilkie is 5 times better than Battle ever was

Could gain 2-3 first round picks on top of that as well.

I doubt they lose Wilkie, they were always going to have to increase his contract.

I don’t mind the TDK + 1st rd pick for Marshall.

Definitely an aggressive strategy, will be interesting to see how it plays out over the next 3-4 years

 

[Keys]

Gaining Silvagni and TDK and losing Wilkie and Marshall is a hefty net loss tbh

Wilkie is 5 times better than Battle ever was

Need to factor in that they would/should get at least a R1 draft pick for each of Marshall and Wilkie in trades whilst TDK and Silvagni cost no draft capital

It’s still a risky strategy though and hopefully it blows up in their face

 

[FKASC]

Could gain 2-3 first round picks on top of that as well.

I doubt they lose Wilkie, they were always going to have to increase his contract.

I don’t mind the TDK + 1st rd pick for Marshall.

Definitely an aggressive strategy, will be interesting to see how it plays out over the next 3-4 years

Need to factor in that they would/should get at least a R1 draft pick for each of Marshall and Wilkie in trades whilst TDK and Silvagni cost no draft capital

It’s still a risky strategy though and hopefully it blows up in their face

Depends where the picks fall given the thin draft. Have to also factor in the other players lost due to salary cap pressure

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I think itd be a very good deal.

Barrat is 1 year into his career and is very speculative, but he'd be just as good as an actual top 20 pick this year tbh, similar value to Ryan if you prefer to think of it that way.
Then its 13+32 for 8

Either way its a pretty reasonable deal for us at worst.

I assume you just dont care for Barrat

I'll be honest i've never seen Barratt. I just don't see how someone taken at pick 32, who for whatever reason has had an underwhelming VFL season can increase in value?

You'd want to be very certain that Barratt is going to amount to something or you're in big trouble.

 

[eaglevision]

His salary is governed by the CBA until the end of his draftee contract.

He’d be leaving a side in mid table purgatory for a side that’s won 11 games in four years.

And he’d be getting out of Melbourne and moving to the other side of the country. Is that a positive? It’d depend on the individual but there aren’t too many I can think of that voluntarily move that far from home at that age. The Vic Country kids seem more likely to stay where they’re drafted than the metro kids, but that’s it.

He will but we’ve properly bottomed out and have hopefully made the right recruitment decisions. History says we’ll be back up again chasing flags well before the Saints.

Is it a positive for him? I don’t know, never met the kid but I think we could sell a path to the best 22 and a side that’s hopefully past the worst and ready to ascend with a young group.

 

[Mr Q]

Need to factor in that they would/should get at least a R1 draft pick for each of Marshall and Wilkie in trades whilst TDK and Silvagni cost no draft capital

It’s still a risky strategy though and hopefully it blows up in their face

Yeah, it reminds me of the old days <90s where VFL clubs were always trying to buy themselves premierships.

Only thing is they didn't have a cap back then (and nearly destroyed their league doing it). Carlton have never recovered from no longer being able to just buy a team.

 

[Tugga27]

eaglevision loves a delusional trade hypothetical to clog up the thread. The new Obeanie special mega trade.

Think I’ve seen Neale, Warner, Boxshall, Wilson and now Barrat discussed at length now despite none being anywhere near a realistic possibility.

I'm pretty sure Bont was mentioned at one stage.
I'm not sure by who though.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I'm pretty sure Bont was mentioned at one stage.
I'm not sure by who though.

Bont you say?

I'm intrigued. What does he cost us?

/is this how rumours start?

 

[Tugga27]

Its Ryan + 13 for pick 8
Then 32 for Barrat - this one is a clear win for us, negating any slight loss incurred on the first part of the trade

Ryan is worth a lot more than a 5 pick upgrade in an ordinary draft.

Our second rounder and Ryan for pick 8 or we keep him.

 

[Tugga27]

Bont you say?

I'm intrigued. What does he cost us?

/is this how rumours start?

There's a few on here who are a bit delusional when it comes to trading.

 

[Tugga27]

Gaining Silvagni and TDK and losing Wilkie and Marshall is a hefty net loss tbh

Wilkie is 5 times better than Battle ever was

Don't think they'll lose Wilkie.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Ryan is worth a lot more than a 5 pick upgrade in an ordinary draft.

Our second rounder and Ryan for pick 8 or we keep him.

Agreed. I'd consider throwing in our F3 if required to get that deal over the line.

Moving up from the Hawks first to pick 8 is not a deal that should be considered.

 

[stallon]

I'll be honest i've never seen Barratt. I just don't see how someone taken at pick 32, who for whatever reason has had an underwhelming VFL season can increase in value?

You'd want to be very certain that Barratt is going to amount to something or you're in big trouble.

Remember Shanahan was taken at pick pick 30 in that same draft.

Barrat for sure goes in the top 20 this year if he was a year younger, and thats what we'd be paying for.

Pretend Barrat is pick 19

Ryan + 13 + 32 for 8 + 19

 

[stallon]

Ryan is worth a lot more than a 5 pick upgrade in an ordinary draft.

Our second rounder and Ryan for pick 8 or we keep him.

If you dont want to trade Ryan under any circumstances just say so bud

 

[Pwani Magharibi]

I'm not keen on Barrat coz it sounds like he's Barrass but with the final letter of his name later in the alphabet. And that just screams inferior to me.

Now if a Barrar or maybe even a Barram became available, I feel like that's someone we should make enquiries about.

How about a Barack?

 

[Mr Q]

Remember Shanahan was taken at pick pick 30 in that same draft.

Getting Shanahan at 30 was our draft team being hit in the arse by a rainbow unicorn draft slide.

 

[Elite Pete]

What ever we get for Ryan has to help get a trade done this year.

Trading a contracted player for a future pick when we need to start improving now and getting players in the door to start developing them a year earlier.

 

[eaglevision]

Remember Shanahan was taken at pick pick 30 in that same draft.

Barrat for sure goes in the top 20 this year if he was a year younger, and thats what we'd be paying for.

Pretend Barrat is pick 19

Ryan + 13 + 32 for 8 + 19

He’d be the third best tall after CDT and Schubert (12) in this year’s draft IMO so going on the rankings posted earlier anywhere from 13 to 17 (Ludowyke) AFTER FA/academy etc.

 

[Tugga27]

If you dont want to trade Ryan under any circumstances just say so bud

I and quite a few others have already said a 5 pick upgrade isn't good enough.
Our second and Ryan for pick 8.

You seem to be in the minority here thinking that's a good deal.

 

[Boots73]

Been bottom of the ladder ,without a senior assistant, head of fitness/ rehab has just left.
Going to be bloody hard to attract players.
Surely Pikey is going to get this sorted out asap

 

[eaglevision]

I and quite a few others have already said a 5 pick upgrade isn't good enough.
Our second and Ryan for pick 8.

You seem to be in the minority here thinking that's a good deal.

In the context of the trade broken down he said Ryan and 13 for 8 was probably unders for us, but Barrat for 32 was unders for the Saints. Think the net result looks ok for both clubs. If we exclude Barrat and 32 then I’d push for our 2R and not 13 as well.

 

[ziad]

Ryan is worth a lot more than a 5 pick upgrade in an ordinary draft.

Our second rounder and Ryan for pick 8 or we keep him.

If only life was that easy - I feel a reaming coming on. We are in a poor position, with all the moves the boat will have sailed - just like last year.