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Harley Reid extends to 2028

List Changes - 2025
  • Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
  • Jayden Hunt announces retirement
  • Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
  • Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
  • Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
  • List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

Key Offseason Dates
Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft
 
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Bit of a discussion here about Jack Steele and how he might be a good fit for West Coast. It’s only an opinion rather than any actual intel though so grain of salt areas



I wouldn’t be paying a R1 pick for him like they’ve suggested but if the Neale stuff becomes the pipe dream I think it probably is, then Steele would be worth considering. If we do get given the priority pick to use in a trade we’ve asked for, then that could perhaps be used for Steele

Or we incorporate Steele in the trade for Ryan with some steak knives being sent to the Saints

Good strong body in the midfield to help Harley and co as well as being a positive presence in the locker room


I'd do it for Steele - turning Ryan into Steele would be a win for both clubs - aa you say we'd need to add something more but it'd still be worth it if the Lachie Neale talk is bunk.

You can't find a single Saints fan that will talk about the prospect of him being traded out though - it's 100% 'No F Off!' - so it would be an unpopular call to say the least.

They are not an easy mob to chat with at the moment either way, being full of piss and vinegar about re-signing Nas and being linked to every player on the market - confidence is high, bless 'em.
 
If Zac Merrett leaves, there will be increased pressure on Essendon and only way they will placate the supporters is if there is a no1 pick as a distraction.

Good opportunity to maximise leverage. 5, 6 for 1 and that’s it.
What about 6 and 7 (Draper comp)
 
I'd do it for Steele - turning Ryan into Steele would be a win for both clubs - aa you say we'd need to add something more but it'd still be worth it if the Lachie Neale talk is bunk.

You can't find a single Saints fan that will talk about the prospect of him being traded out though - it's 100% 'No F Off!' - so it would be an unpopular call to say the least.

They are not an easy mob to chat with at the moment either way, being full of piss and vinegar about re-signing Nas and being linked to every player on the market - confidence is high, bless 'em.
A lot of Saints fans would be happy for him to not play. Majority I have seen are they can’t play Steele and Macrae together. Would be a hard sell to Jack though to move West in a rebuild team.

If he was up for it and think Neale thing is any chance, I know I’ll be in the minority but I’d do both if the Neale price is right. Yeo back to HBF or even forward for his last 2 years with pinch hits in the guts.
 

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A lot of Saints fans would be happy for him to not play. Majority I have seen are they can’t play Steele and Macrae together. Would be a hard sell to Jack though to move West in a rebuild team.

If he was up for it and think Neale thing is any chance, I know I’ll be in the minority but I’d do both if the Neale price is right. Yeo back to HBF or even forward for his last 2 years with pinch hits in the guts.

Still need to see if Yeo will even get back onto the park.
 
I must say I find reading this thread and other trade news rather depressing.
( I know someone will say then don’t read it).

I find it hard to see how we can get out of this hole that we are in.

The AFL in its wisdom, not deliberately, has created a two tier competition where the ones that have are getting stronger and stronger and the weak teams like us are getting weaker and weaker.

It’s hard to see how any team is going to transition from one tier to the other.
 
I'd give up Durrsma if it meant a haul of say Sharp, Cumming and Schubert.
I don’t get why we have to give up Duursma, just split pick 2? We can very easily get Duursma + 2 of those guys even if we don’t split pick 1 or 2, we should be trading up for Port’s first anyway.

Can’t be giving up the clear best player in the draft.
 

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A lot of Saints fans would be happy for him to not play. Majority I have seen are they can’t play Steele and Macrae together. Would be a hard sell to Jack though to move West in a rebuild team.

If he was up for it and think Neale thing is any chance, I know I’ll be in the minority but I’d do both if the Neale price is right. Yeo back to HBF or even forward for his last 2 years with pinch hits in the guts.

I haven't encountered any that are happy to part with him or realistic about his value.

Moving to Perth to a rebuild may be a tough sell...but I would suggest Steele is a risk to fall out of the Saints 22 next year - he may not be in the position to pick and choose which 'contender' he wants to go to. Someone might come knocking but that also just might not happen given his age, form and likely salary.

I'd do both too mate but I might just be ****ing sick of losing 😅
 
I haven't encountered any that are happy to part with him or realistic about his value.

Moving to Perth to a rebuild may be a tough sell...but I would suggest Steele is a risk to fall out of the Saints 22 next year - he may not be in the position to pick and choose which 'contender' he wants to go to. Someone might come knocking but that also just might not happen given his age, form and likely salary.

I'd do both too mate but I might just be ****ing sick of losing 😅
Yeah. Back to Giants seem the likely fit if they want to go past Cog. Not sure many others would go down that path and he is guaranteed a game
 

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EAGLES CHASE FRINGE HAWK

West Coast is keeping a keen interest in Hawks pressure forward Sam Butler as Henry Hustwaite’s frustration builds in his lack of senior opportunities.

Butler has returned from a badly broken leg to play four senior games this year as he kicked a huge goal after a key tackle against Greater Western Sydney.

But while he came into the side to help stop the Orange Tsunami with his pressure skills he has racked it up at VFL level with a 42-possession game and most recently 34 possessions and 10 clearances against Southport.

West Coast are likely to lose first-round pick Campbell Chesser to Carlton, so Butler would appeal as a mid-forward or just a genuine mid.

Hustwaite is contracted for 2026 but keen to find a new home where he can play AFL footy, subbed off early by the Hawks in the last two of his four total games this year.

Despite speculation Carlton is not interested so he will need to keep looking.

In the VFL final just gone he had 37 possessions, 11 clearances and five centre clearances and he has worked hard on his spread from contest to be a more versatile player.

AGONISING CHOICE LOOMS OVER LION

Brisbane’s Brandon Starcevich faces a Chad Warner-style decision to play for two more years chasing flags at the Lions or return home to play with the Eagles on a long-term deal.

Starcevich would ideally like to return home to play in WA at some stage in his career given his close family ties.

Like Warner he would give up that chance for silverware if he left for rebuilding West Coast.

So having decided that third suitor Essendon is not in the race he faces an extremely challenging decision.

He would sign a long-term deal at West Coast but likely only a two-year deal as a restricted free agent.

If he did find his way to West Coast the most likely outcome would be through a trade, not free agency.

West Coast will secure the No. 2 overall draft pick as free agency compensation when Allen leaves, but under the net gain rule it would be diluted if they secured a free agent.

They have asked the AFL under their priority pick submission if they could bring another free agent in without diluting that compo but no one believes that is likely to fly.

So handing up a later pick for Starcevich to make his move a trade keeps the No. 2 overall pick.

Brisbane would get a pick rather than nothing, because having secured Sam Draper and Oscar Allen they would get nothing for the departing Starcevich anyway.
 
Trade pick 2 to Essendon along with F2 for 5 and 8 (Hawks 1st for Merrett)

Trade Hawks first + 19 for Port’s first from Gold Coast

Pick 1: Willem Duursma
Pick 5: Dyson Sharp or Josh Lindsay
Pick 6: Sullivan Robey
Pick 8: Xavier Taylor

Get the best player in the draft with the most upside, either the best inside midfielder or distributor, a bolter with huge upside and the best non club tied key defender in the draft.

Also would be fine not splitting pick 2 and just taking CDT or Sharp there. Would probably prefer Essendon’s F1 over 5 or 8 as well, but I doubt they part with that.

We can’t take 4 midfielders though, so I think one of Taylor or CDT are a must - I like Schubert, but not the profile we need. Marsh would be a consideration too as a point of difference forward.
It sounds like a short-sighted move to take a decent pick out of next years draft. Better to box up later picks this year that we're unlikely to use.

I haven't heard much about Robey or Taylor, sounds like quite a big risk to take both with two proposed top 10 picks?
 
Wonder if there's the possibility of a three way trade. Butler, HH, Carlton first to us, pick 1 or 2 to essendon, merrett to hawks.

How's the value on that? Not familiar enough with the hawks players to be sure on it.
 
Wonder if there's the possibility of a three way trade. Butler, HH, Carlton first to us, pick 1 or 2 to essendon, merrett to hawks.

How's the value on that? Not familiar enough with the hawks players to be sure on it.

IMO pick 1 and 2 should only be used to trade in a young and established A Grade midfielder or split for the Bombers picks.

A shit sandwich of cobbled together picks and players sounds awful.
 
Wonder if there's the possibility of a three way trade. Butler, HH, Carlton first to us, pick 1 or 2 to essendon, merrett to hawks.

How's the value on that? Not familiar enough with the hawks players to be sure on it.

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